SA Huguenot
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I noticed how fellow members discussed Time on one of the threads about if life is found on Mars, will we be able to handle it?.
What I found is that various claims are made about the attributes of "Time", and there is a lot of misunderstandings as well as solid facts explained by all.
I thought it will be a nice thread to create to have everyone scrutinizing, not only their opinions, but also mine.
Well, my understanding comes from the Biblical view, because I have learned quite a while ago that using knowledge from this point of view always turns out to be logical and conclusive.
So, Here Go!
Concerning Time, the Bible says: "In the beginning God created the Heavens and the Earth..."
And God said, "Let there be light...and it was evening, and morning, the first day..."
Then the Sun, Moon and Stars shone on the Earth on the 4th day, and God said: "... Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years".
And many times God says that He was before Time exists before everlasting and so on. (Isaiah 57:15; psalms 90:2; 93:2; 102:27; 103:17)
So, lets see how the Bible describes "Time"!
God started to create in the beginning. The first matter and space for it to exist in, was the origins of the Universe. God continued to create the universes and the Earth was also part of this creation. However, the Earth was still taking shape from an accreted ball of Solids, Liquids and gases, because the Bible says, the Earth was without shape, and dark and full of water.
Then God said light should come in existance, and the first day kicked off. God then described how Time will be measured with the use of the Earth turning on its axis with the Sun shining on it, creating days.
The Bible also says the Earth and Sun will be the mecanism to count days. seasons, and years!
Now, lets see:
Time does not actually exist, and it is just by accident that the movement of the Earth and Sun plays the role of the clockwork of Time, and that we age and uses this clockwork to determine our age.
Therefore, Time is only a measurement on where the Earth and Sun is in relation to each other.
Before this "First day" existed, Time did not exist!
The Bible calls this time period before day one to the first cause, "In the Beginning", and I always say, if scientists wants to call this period "Billions of years", they are welcome to do so, it is not in contradiction with the Bible.
Actually the Biblical description is way better than the Scientific one.
The Bible say the Universe was created before the Earth in "Zero Time", or before the first day.
Science says, the Universe was created 12.5 Billion years ago, and the Solar System (Earth) only 4.5 billion years ago.
Ok, so if we use the Earth and Sun as clockwork to determine "Time", but the Earth and Sun was absent for 8 Billion years, how does the Scientists measure the time from the beginning to the creation of the earth?
easy, they use imaginary time!
Ok, so Time is a by product of movement of matter in space.
If we have Matter in space, and it remains stationary, down to quantum levels, with no photons moving, everything is a complete standstill, there will not be any "Time" to measure at all.
I think this will give perspective on a thought that God is somehow bound by Time, and He had a Beginning.
God is outside of creation, that is matter moving in space, therefore he does not abide in time at all.
What do you thinkl of my analysis?
What I found is that various claims are made about the attributes of "Time", and there is a lot of misunderstandings as well as solid facts explained by all.
I thought it will be a nice thread to create to have everyone scrutinizing, not only their opinions, but also mine.
Well, my understanding comes from the Biblical view, because I have learned quite a while ago that using knowledge from this point of view always turns out to be logical and conclusive.
So, Here Go!
Concerning Time, the Bible says: "In the beginning God created the Heavens and the Earth..."
And God said, "Let there be light...and it was evening, and morning, the first day..."
Then the Sun, Moon and Stars shone on the Earth on the 4th day, and God said: "... Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years".
And many times God says that He was before Time exists before everlasting and so on. (Isaiah 57:15; psalms 90:2; 93:2; 102:27; 103:17)
So, lets see how the Bible describes "Time"!
- Before the first day, there was no light shining on the Earth.
- After the creation of light, the first day began, and Time started to count down to today.
- Before the first day, God created the Heavens and the earth.
- The period in which Goid created the Earth was from "In the Beginning" to before the "First day".
God started to create in the beginning. The first matter and space for it to exist in, was the origins of the Universe. God continued to create the universes and the Earth was also part of this creation. However, the Earth was still taking shape from an accreted ball of Solids, Liquids and gases, because the Bible says, the Earth was without shape, and dark and full of water.
Then God said light should come in existance, and the first day kicked off. God then described how Time will be measured with the use of the Earth turning on its axis with the Sun shining on it, creating days.
The Bible also says the Earth and Sun will be the mecanism to count days. seasons, and years!
Now, lets see:
Time does not actually exist, and it is just by accident that the movement of the Earth and Sun plays the role of the clockwork of Time, and that we age and uses this clockwork to determine our age.
Therefore, Time is only a measurement on where the Earth and Sun is in relation to each other.
Before this "First day" existed, Time did not exist!
The Bible calls this time period before day one to the first cause, "In the Beginning", and I always say, if scientists wants to call this period "Billions of years", they are welcome to do so, it is not in contradiction with the Bible.
Actually the Biblical description is way better than the Scientific one.
The Bible say the Universe was created before the Earth in "Zero Time", or before the first day.
Science says, the Universe was created 12.5 Billion years ago, and the Solar System (Earth) only 4.5 billion years ago.
Ok, so if we use the Earth and Sun as clockwork to determine "Time", but the Earth and Sun was absent for 8 Billion years, how does the Scientists measure the time from the beginning to the creation of the earth?
easy, they use imaginary time!
Ok, so Time is a by product of movement of matter in space.
If we have Matter in space, and it remains stationary, down to quantum levels, with no photons moving, everything is a complete standstill, there will not be any "Time" to measure at all.
I think this will give perspective on a thought that God is somehow bound by Time, and He had a Beginning.
God is outside of creation, that is matter moving in space, therefore he does not abide in time at all.
What do you thinkl of my analysis?
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