Music and perception

Pastor Skylare · Oct 12, 2019

So yeah music what about music? I was gifted with a great ability to make music a gift from God. I'm not going to go into how I know that's not the point. I started when I was young and every time I tried to make a song it would come out dark, creepy messed up. I was doing for my own selfish reasons trying to make money or the new best song. Hated it because I dont like evil. Then I noticed when I went from say worshipping jesus in song and then switching to creating my own song I would turn into something else. The way I felt would change and I would change and the song would turn out how i didn't want it to.... opposite of light. I tried and tried to make a happy pleasent song but it never turned out that way always dark. Then finally i renounced music if I couldn't make it the way wanted it to I wouldn't make it at all. then just yesterday I decided to worship jesus with my music. I did finally did what I wanted it to do for years turn out happy and good. Came to me right away that I suppose to worship God with it not use for my own selfish reasons. I don't regret all these years I could have done alot because in this lesson proved more that jesus truly my lord and savior and debunks all thoughts that my beliefs are wrong. I choose to serve him for the rest of my days because i do truly love him.......... ***mod edit***

PoetPhilosopher · Oct 12, 2019

I can't relate with the message expressed here, I've been there, but I work best not thinking of things in terms of "demons" etc or reaching that conclusion.

Welcome to the forum though.

Flame · Oct 12, 2019

danieldemol · Oct 12, 2019

Pastor Skylare said:
So yeah music what about music? I was gifted with a great ability to make music a gift from God. I'm not going to go into how I know that's not the point. I started when I was young and every time I tried to make a song it would come out dark, creepy messed up. I was doing for my own selfish reasons trying to make money or the new best song. Hated it because I dont like evil. Then I noticed when I went from say worshipping jesus in song and then switching to creating my own song I would turn into something else. The way I felt would change and I would change and the song would turn out how i didn't want it to.... opposite of light. I tried and tried to make a happy pleasent song but it never turned out that way always dark. Then finally i renounced music if I couldn't make it the way wanted it to I wouldn't make it at all. then just yesterday I decided to worship jesus with my music. I did finally did what I wanted it to do for years turn out happy and good. Came to me right away that I suppose to worship God with it not use for my own selfish reasons. I don't regret all these years I could have done alot because in this lesson proved more that jesus truly my lord and savior and debunks all thoughts that my beliefs are wrong. I choose to serve him for the rest of my days because i do truly love him.......... ***mod edit***

Literal demons don’t exist, and a large part of religion comes down to cultural preference. Which imo makes them all right (for the individual according to preference) or all wrong (for the whole of humanity).

Personally I think Jesus only saves to the extent that He sets a good example and others take up virtuous deeds aspiring to be like Him. Even then I wouldn’t follow the example of Jesus blindly.

Vinayaka · Oct 12, 2019

Pastor Skylare said:
So yeah music what about music? I was gifted with a great ability to make music a gift from God. I'm not going to go into how I know that's not the point. I started when I was young and every time I tried to make a song it would come out dark, creepy messed up. I was doing for my own selfish reasons trying to make money or the new best song. Hated it because I dont like evil. Then I noticed when I went from say worshipping jesus in song and then switching to creating my own song I would turn into something else. The way I felt would change and I would change and the song would turn out how i didn't want it to.... opposite of light. I tried and tried to make a happy pleasent song but it never turned out that way always dark. Then finally i renounced music if I couldn't make it the way wanted it to I wouldn't make it at all. then just yesterday I decided to worship jesus with my music. I did finally did what I wanted it to do for years turn out happy and good. Came to me right away that I suppose to worship God with it not use for my own selfish reasons. I don't regret all these years I could have done alot because in this lesson proved more that jesus truly my lord and savior and debunks all thoughts that my beliefs are wrong. I choose to serve him for the rest of my days because i do truly love him.......... You can try to debate this but demon posession is reality jesus is the savior and all other religious are wrong.

What is it you wish to debate?

Pastor Skylare · Oct 12, 2019

Vinayaka said:
What is it you wish to debate?

I guess the existence of the enemy in christian religion againt non religious people and there believe that he doesn't exist.

Vinayaka · Oct 12, 2019

Pastor Skylare said:
I guess the existence of the enemy in christian religion againt non religious people and there believe that he doesn't exist.

So if you're not Christian, you're not religious?

Pastor Skylare · Oct 12, 2019

Vinayaka said:
So if you're not Christian, you're not religious?

No that's not what I was saying I was saying I would like to convert a non religious person to christianity so I wanted to debate one on the existence of the enemy of the christian religion

Vinayaka · Oct 12, 2019

Pastor Skylare said:
No that's not what I was saying I was saying I would like to convert a non religious person to christianity so I wanted to debate one on the existence of the enemy of the christian religion

Why? You have a need to convert someone? What's the driving force behind that?

Pastor Skylare · Oct 12, 2019

danieldemol said:
Literal demons don’t exist, and a large part of religion comes down to cultural preference. Which imo makes them all right (for the individual according to preference) or all wrong (for the whole of humanity). Sorry I meant to use the enemy(not going to say his real name)

Personally I think Jesus only saves to the extent that He sets a good example and others take up virtuous deeds aspiring to be like Him. Even then I wouldn’t follow the example of Jesus blindly.

Pastor Skylare · Oct 12, 2019

Vinayaka said:
Why? You have a need to convert someone? What's the driving force behind that?

God

Vinayaka · Oct 12, 2019

Pastor Skylare said:
God

God has a need for everyone to adore him? That seems kind of needy. One would think He'd be beyond that sort of thing.

EtuMalku · Oct 12, 2019

Take a few music composition courses and learn how music works, it's got nothing to do with gods and demons . . . while you're at it, maybe a visit to a shrink couldn't hurt either

Pastor Skylare · Oct 12, 2019

Vinayaka said:
God has a need for everyone to adore him? That seems kind of needy. One would think He'd be beyond that sort of thing.

He is a jealous god. But why wouldn't you want to be saved instead of believing this life all the negative that exist is all there is. Plus is keeps getting worst and worst

Vinayaka · Oct 12, 2019

Pastor Skylare said:
He is a jealous god. But why wouldn't you want to be saved instead of believing this life all the negative that exist is all there is. Plus is keeps getting worst and worst

Some God. Filled with jealousy? Sounds like he's the negative one. Jealous of who?

Pastor Skylare · Oct 12, 2019

EtuMalku said:
Take a few music composition courses and learn how music works, it's got nothing to do with gods and demons . . . while you're at it, maybe a visit to a shrink couldn't hurt either

I not going to reply answer of why I know that not demons but satan exists and it was with MY experience with music that I found out how I was supposed to use it

danieldemol · Oct 12, 2019

Pastor Skylare said:
Sorry I meant to use the enemy(not going to say his real name)

When you are replying to someone it is easier for them to follow what you are saying if you type after the [/quote] sign

danieldemol · Oct 12, 2019

Pastor Skylare said:
I not going to reply answer of why I know that not demons but satan exists and it was with MY experience with music that I found out how I was supposed to use it

Your experience with music is not necessarily the same as other people’s experience with music

Pastor Skylare · Oct 12, 2019

Vinayaka said:
Some God. Filled with jealousy? Sounds like he's the negative one. Jealous of who?

jealous if you put other gods before him. "You shall not worship them or serve them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children, on the third and the fourth generations of those who hate Me, exodus 20:5 and negative? For God so loved the world so much that he gave his only son whom ever shall believe in him will not perish but have eternal life. John 3:16

Pastor Skylare · Oct 12, 2019

danieldemol said:
Your experience with music is not necessarily the same as other people’s experience with music

I know I wasn't saying that I was just sharing what I went through. I used to listen techno and trance and all that alot of emotion but it wasn't christian it was fine it pleasent but that's not the point I was trying to make

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