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Judge sides against Trump his tax returns

shmogie

Well-Known Member
Whether his tax returns will ever be made available to the public is yet to be determined, but I have confidence that the courts will continue to rule against Trump because of the fact that the AG does not have jurisdiction over the Southern District of NY, and also for the oversight provision of Congress according to Article 1.

BTW, remember when Trump repeatedly stated that he would release his returns prior to the election? Trump supporters, how did that turn out?:rolleyes: And then he lied about not being able to do it because he was being audited, whereas the IRS said that auditing does not stop returns from being released.

How long will the Trump supporters continued to be "played" by Trump before they realize who this guy really is and that he's really not for them?
So, he lied about his tax returns, THEY ALL LIE. Hillary lies, Schiff lies, whoever the democrat candidate will be is lying now and will lie as a candidate, ALL POLITICIANS LIE.

All of their words mean little, unless they correspond to actions which can be evaluated.

Barr is over all federal prosecutors, including those in New York. He is not over any State or local prosecutors.

I can´t figure out why his tax returns are so important, can you tell me ?
 

shmogie

Well-Known Member
That is probably cause which the IRS can bring up itself as it, not Congress, is the primary government agency that investigates. There is no referral from the IRS. Your speculation isn't probable cause.





Tax returns include business interaction information including names of people and businesses. Dems have no issues going after people assoicated with Trump as per Maxine Water call to harassment.





Never said he had any.
That probable cause can be a nasty thing when you want to rip everything open like and anteater does to an ant hill, in hopes of finding something, anything, to overturn the 2016 election.
 

Riders

Well-Known Member
So, he lied about his tax returns, THEY ALL LIE. Hillary lies, Schiff lies, whoever the democrat candidate will be is lying now and will lie as a candidate, ALL POLITICIANS LIE.

All of their words mean little, unless they correspond to actions which can be evaluated.

Barr is over all federal prosecutors, including those in New York. He is not over any State or local prosecutors.

I can´t figure out why his tax returns are so important, can you tell me ?
Liieng is amoral, While you guys are hurling insults at us for being amoral you defend Trump for lieing? Why did Clinton get impeached? Because he lied but Ill bet you never said all that about him.
 

Riders

Well-Known Member
That probable cause can be a nasty thing when you want to rip everything open like and anteater does to an ant hill, in hopes of finding something, anything, to overturn the 2016 election.
Considering every single President sense Washington has showed their tax returns and Trump promised us his tax returns just like he did the wall you dont consider that probably cause? I do!
 

shmogie

Well-Known Member
Considering every single President sense Washington has showed their tax returns and Trump promised us his tax returns just like he did the wall you dont consider that probably cause? I do!
Nope, not what the law says
 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
Considering every single President sense Washington has showed their tax returns and Trump promised us his tax returns just like he did the wall you dont consider that probably cause? I do!
No, actually every single President since Nixon has shown their taxes.

They didn’t even have income tax when George Washington was President, much less returns.
 

Riders

Well-Known Member
Nope, not what the law says
He lied about 80 times on when he would hand in his tax returns. Now Clinton was impeached because of a lie you find that ok but you don't see anything wrong with all the sicky lies Trump has been including about his tax records.

Your standards for President maybe shockingly shockingly low but mine are not, my standards for president are way higher then yours!
 

shmogie

Well-Known Member
He lied about 80 times on when he would hand in his tax returns. Now Clinton was impeached because of a lie you find that ok but you don't see anything wrong with all the sicky lies Trump has been including about his tax records.

Your standards for President maybe shockingly shockingly low but mine are not, my standards for president are way higher then yours!
Clinton was impeached for lying under oath, perjury, a felony.

All politicians are liars.

My standard for president is that they DO what l believe is best for the country. Trump has delivered historic low unemployment, a booming economy, a tax cut, originalists on the supreme court, on it goes

I don`t give a rats *** about his tax return
 

shmogie

Well-Known Member
Liieng is amoral, While you guys are hurling insults at us for being amoral you defend Trump for lieing? Why did Clinton get impeached? Because he lied but Ill bet you never said all that about him.
You didn`t answer the question, why is his tax return so important?

Insult you, how have I insulted You?

They all lie
 

Riders

Well-Known Member
You didn`t answer the question, why is his tax return so important?

Insult you, how have I insulted You?

They all lie
BECAUSE HE SAID HE WOULD!!!!!!!!!!!! HE said he'd do it 10 times or more so he needs to keep his word. Do you really want a liar in the whitehouse????????
 

Riders

Well-Known Member
Clinton was impeached for lying under oath, perjury, a felony.

All politicians are liars.

My standard for president is that they DO what l believe is best for the country. Trump has delivered historic low unemployment, a booming economy, a tax cut, originalists on the supreme court, on it goes

I don`t give a rats *** about his tax return
No not all politicians are liers many are not and if thats what you expect from your President thats really sad.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Clinton was impeached for lying under oath, perjury, a felony.

All politicians are liars.

My standard for president is that they DO what l believe is best for the country. Trump has delivered historic low unemployment, a booming economy, a tax cut, originalists on the supreme court, on it goes

I don`t give a rats *** about his tax return
Please show us what Trump has done to deliver "historic low unemployment". From what I have seen the recovery started long before Trump got into office and merely continued why he was in it. If anything he has threatened the recovery.

And bringing up Clinton is simply a Tu Quoque fallacy.
 

ImmortalFlame

Woke gremlin
Clinton was impeached for lying under oath, perjury, a felony.

All politicians are liars.

My standard for president is that they DO what l believe is best for the country. Trump has delivered historic low unemployment, a booming economy, a tax cut, originalists on the supreme court, on it goes

I don`t give a rats *** about his tax return
"I don't care of my president commits a felony, as long as they do so under a political banner that I like."

Just accept that you voted an incompetent, lying criminal into office already.
 

shmogie

Well-Known Member
"I don't care of my president commits a felony, as long as they do so under a political banner that I like."

Just accept that you voted an incompetent, lying criminal into office already.
There is absolutely no tested evidence that he committed a felony, anywhere.

Your vaunted Mueller report didn´t provide it.

Now Schiffs star chamber has not produced any yet either.

show me the crime, have it adjudicated where the accused can offer a defense, then have a verdict as to guilt or innocence. I will accept the verdict.

You are no doubt one of those still stinging from 2016, so a proper legal scenario to actually establish guilt is irrelevant to you. You decide, based upon YOUR political motivation and hatred.

Trump lies, yep. Hillary lies, all the democrat candidates tell lies, all politicians lie.

Your selective outrage is amusing, you really aren´t that naive, are you ?

So, if in the political circus of impeachment, if it even occurs, or later if a criminal trial takes place, and Trump is found guilty as defined by either process of a high crime/s or misdemeanor/s I will agree with you.

Before then, it is all democrat whining about 2016, the anointed empress lost her crown before it was stuck on her head.

Your rage and that of your fellow travelers in congress have set some very ugly precedents, that will be remembered and employed against you down the road.

Don´t whine then. You democrats will have debased the system, and it is all on your head.

Between now and a trial your emotional whining is just more democrat bulls**t, prove it properly, or shutup, your act is boring.
 

Jose Fly

Fisker of men
There is absolutely no tested evidence that he committed a felony, anywhere.

Your vaunted Mueller report didn´t provide it.
Yes it did. The Mueller report identified multiple instances where Trump committed obstruction of justice. Mueller even listed the requirements for obstruction and for each instance, described how those requirements were met.

But he stopped short of accusing Trump of obstruction because of DoJ policy against indicting a sitting President.

Did you actually read the report?
 
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