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Yea. You really got to keep an eye on those deranged 12 year olds. They should of tazed the ******.I get the sense that the article doesn't tell the whole story.
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Yea. You really got to keep an eye on those deranged 12 year olds. They should of tazed the ******.I get the sense that the article doesn't tell the whole story.
I’m saying that even if they’d taken that exact approach, they’d still be being attacked by the media, politicians and ignorant private individuals (often the same ones!), especially if she took some kind of violent action in the future. This means that the alarmist tabloid reports and knee-jerk reactions don’t automatically mean what is being reported actually happened or what actually happened is wrong. To properly determine that requires much more information that we have available to us at the moment and a much more calm, neutral and rational approach that most of the instinctive reactions involve.
Kinda missing my point, but good try.Yea. You really got to keep an eye on those deranged 12 year olds. They should of tazed the ******.
Is it?This is more a case like someone bringing Tylenol to school and getting charged with "drug possession." This is as much an issue of schools being administered by wackos as much as anything else.
That's because they are unreasonable as possible. Where in history had any child ever been cuffed for making a finger gun in school except for this paranoid and irrational generation that we have now?Is it?
See... to me, it sounds more like a case where the kid involved and her family are making it out to be overblown and silly, while the other side of the story isn't being told because of privacy and confidentiality rules.
Just because the girl did "finger guns" in class doesn't mean that there wasn't some other, more serious threat that wasn't public knowledge and the kid's family aren't mentioning.
In any case, only one side of the story is out right now, and we're only hearing it from people who have a vested interest in making the girl seem as good as possible and the school and police seem as unreasonable as possible.
... which is why I'm suggesting that you should use your critical thinking skills and consider the possibility that the reason this child was cuffed wasn't because she was making finger guns.That's because they are unreasonable as possible. Where in history had any child ever been cuffed for making a finger gun in school except for this paranoid and irrational generation that we have now?
I'll tell you. Never.
Is it?
See... to me, it sounds more like a case where the kid involved and her family are making it out to be overblown and silly, while the other side of the story isn't being told because of privacy and confidentiality rules.
Just because the girl did "finger guns" in class doesn't mean that there wasn't some other, more serious threat that wasn't public knowledge and the kid's family aren't mentioning.
In any case, only one side of the story is out right now, and we're only hearing it from people who have a vested interest in making the girl seem as good as possible and the school and police seem as unreasonable as possible.
This is just one example of a school getting grief for discipline (no police action) for a very similar incident; 10-year-old suspended over finger gun - CNN.I don't think anyone would fault the school if they disciplined her for this - or if they felt she needed psychological help, they might have referred her to the school psychologist. These would have been appropriate responses, and I doubt they would have gotten any heat over it.
This is kind of off topic but in context I think that claim needs picking up. A major part of the problem I’m talking about is how incidents become mythicized, repeated as broad head-lines, with all the key details, circumstances and often facts lost in the mists of time. Before long, a couple of individual incidents magically become a gross generalisation condemning literally hundreds of thousands of teachers and administrators with wild statements like;This is more a case like someone bringing Tylenol to school and getting charged with "drug possession."
This is as much an issue of schools being administered by wackos as much as anything else.
But it's not at that stage yet, so how have you figured out the outcome? Are you psychic?If there's anything to this, then it will come out in court eventually, if it even gets that far.
... and you can't imagine any scenario where a school would have reason to call the cops for a student?Again, the school would have been well within its authority to discipline the child - even suspend her or send her to the school psychologist if they really believed there was a bona fide threat.
I don't think you're in a position to say what was necessary or appropriate in this situation, or to say whether there was or wasn't an immediate threat.But calling the police was simply not necessary nor appropriate in the absence of any immediate or imminent threat.
One of the news stories in my area this week is about a murder by school kids: a group of kids, including at least one 14-year-old, jumped a 14-year-old student and stabbed him to death.As I said earlier, if nothing else, this is a waste of police time and resources. This is just a little kid.
Again: I don't think you're in a position to say what would have been appropriate here.I would agree that she might very well need help, but an arrest record won't help anyone here.
But it's not at that stage yet, so how have you figured out the outcome? Are you psychic?
... and you can't imagine any scenario where a school would have reason to call the cops for a student?
I don't think you're in a position to say what was necessary or appropriate in this situation, or to say whether there was or wasn't an immediate threat.
One of the news stories in my area this week is about a murder by school kids: a group of kids, including at least one 14-year-old, jumped a 14-year-old student and stabbed him to death.
This 12-year-old isn't far off that age.
Again: I don't think you're in a position to say what would have been appropriate here.
A who & what?I know it only from a Guns 'N Roses song.
I recommend Papillion (1973) over The Green Mile.We actually watched that for school a few times. Cool Hand Luke, the Green Mile and Shawshank Redemption were the trifecta go to for school movies.
Apparently my high school really liked Prison Dramas.
A band who is the most overrated anything from the 80/90s, with a nasty person singing for them even though he's known for no showing and if he does show he gets pissy and walks off stage.A who & what?
That's really not a good means or process for making decisions.You’re missing the point. I’m not saying what you describe would be wrong, indeed, I support it as an approach in such situations.
I’m saying that even if they’d taken that exact approach, they’d still be being attacked by the media, politicians and ignorant private individuals (often the same ones!), especially if she took some kind of violent action in the future. This means that the alarmist tabloid reports and knee-jerk reactions don’t automatically mean what is being reported actually happened or what actually happened is wrong. To properly determine that requires much more information that we have available to us at the moment and a much more calm, neutral and rational approach that most of the instinctive reactions involve.
We smell a lawsuit comingI don't think anyone would fault the school if they disciplined her for this - or if they felt she needed psychological help, they might have referred her to the school psychologist. These would have been appropriate responses, and I doubt they would have gotten any heat over it.
This is more a case like someone bringing Tylenol to school and getting charged with "drug possession." This is as much an issue of schools being administered by wackos as much as anything else.
Should I take the time to calmly understand what you actually mean by that or should I go with my instinctive reaction and call you an idiot?That's really not a good means or process for making decisions.
This is just one example of a school getting grief for discipline (no police action) for a very similar incident; 10-year-old suspended over finger gun - CNN.
This is kind of off topic but in context I think that claim needs picking up. A major part of the problem I’m talking about is how incidents become mythicized, repeated as broad head-lines, with all the key details, circumstances and often facts lost in the mists of time. Before long, a couple of individual incidents magically become a gross generalisation condemning literally hundreds of thousands of teachers and administrators with wild statements like;
Sounds....wonderful.A band who is the most overrated anything from the 80/90s, with a nasty person singing for them even though he's known for no showing and if he does show he gets pissy and walks off stage.