Are Creationists the Great Pretenders?

dad · Oct 10, 2019

ecco said:
You have no way of knowing that anything recorded is anything that Jesus did or did not say. The authors of the Gospels were not first-hand eyewitnesses.

Yes, some were. He made a way to know and promised to get His words to us just right.

Subduction Zone · Oct 10, 2019

dad said:
Says you

Brilliant refutation.

dad · Oct 10, 2019

ecco said:
You conveniently ignore the OT when it is in your own interest. That's very dishonest of you. Is that a Christian thing - dishonesty as a defense mechanism?

False. I explained that Jesus is not like you think by your interpreting the OT without using the revealed Person of Jesus!

Subduction Zone · Oct 10, 2019

dad said:
Yes, some were. He made a way to know and promised to get His words to us just right.

No. The author of Luke says that he wasn't. The author of Mark appeared to be a follower of Peter. The author of Matthew copied quite a bit from Mark. Not an eyewitness either. And the last Gospel written was written by followers, that means more than one author, or John.

dad · Oct 10, 2019

Subduction Zone said:
Brilliant refutation.

Lovely spam.

dad · Oct 10, 2019

Subduction Zone said:
No. The author of Luke says that he wasn't. The author of Mark appeared to be a follower of Peter. The author of Matthew copied quite a bit from Mark. Not an eyewitness either. And the last Gospel written was written by followers, that means more than one author, or John.

Tough. You don't really know.

ecco · Oct 10, 2019

dad said:
Says you

Nope. Not me. Your Bible. Your God/Jesus' genocide:

1 And the LORD said unto Noah, Come thou and all thy house into the ark; for thee have I seen righteous before me in this generation. 2 Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that [are] not clean by two, the male and his female. 3 Of fowls also of the air by sevens, the male and the female; to keep seed alive upon the face of all the earth. 4 For yet seven days, and I will cause it to rain upon the earth forty days and forty nights; and every living substance that I have made will I destroy from off the face of the earth. 5 And Noah did according unto all that the LORD commanded him.

Subduction Zone · Oct 10, 2019

dad said:
False. I explained that Jesus is not like you think by your interpreting the OT without using the revealed Person of Jesus!

You are too easily fooled by hats.

Subduction Zone · Oct 10, 2019

dad said:
Tough. You don't really know.

I know more than you do. You only have self refuting beliefs.

Subduction Zone · Oct 10, 2019

dad said:
Lovely spam.

no dad, your spam is far from lovely.

Audie · Oct 10, 2019

Subduction Zone said:
I know more than you do. You only have self refuting beliefs.

Oh now be nice to yourself. That is just damning with faint praise.

dad · Oct 10, 2019

ecco said:
Nope. Not me. Your Bible. Your God/Jesus' genocide:

1 And the LORD said unto Noah, Come thou and all thy house into the ark; for thee have I seen righteous before me in this generation. 2 Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that [are] not clean by two, the male and his female. 3 Of fowls also of the air by sevens, the male and the female; to keep seed alive upon the face of all the earth. 4 For yet seven days, and I will cause it to rain upon the earth forty days and forty nights; and every living substance that I have made will I destroy from off the face of the earth. 5 And Noah did according unto all that the LORD commanded him.

Right, so man got so wicked, and murderous and human sacrificing, and perverted, and demonic and dangerous, that in order to have man be able to last long enough for Salvation to come one day, He had to save just a few good folks. Because He did, He later was able to have a nation among wicked nations set up to allow Jesus to enter the world with His plan for all men.

dad · Oct 10, 2019

Subduction Zone said:
I know more than you do. You only have self refuting beliefs.

Think yourself wise eh?

Subduction Zone · Oct 10, 2019

dad said:
Think yourself wise eh?

No, it does not take any wisdom to refute the nonsense that you post. An elementary school student could do so.

dad · Oct 10, 2019

Subduction Zone said:
No, it does not take any wisdom to refute the nonsense that you post. An elementary school student could do so.

Raging eh?

SkepticThinker · Oct 10, 2019

dad said:
You see, the horror would be to make man without a plan for salvation. The horror would be to have allowed wickedness to triumph and result in the perdition of man. Instead, He guided a people through history, so that Salvation could come. If that plan were allowed to have been foiled by the rampant wickedness of men, that would be the horror. Instead, He came down Personally to suffer horribly for us, and show His real love and plan. Your idea of morals frankly can take a hike.

That was after killing off 99.9% of humans on the planet didn't work. That's some loving behavior right there.

Your idea of morality makes me sick to my stomach.

ecco · Oct 10, 2019

ecco said:
Let's stay on topic. Your Jesus/God committed genocide and endorsed rape.

ecco said:
Your Jesus/God/Holy Ghost horrifically killed 99.9+% of humans and, in defense, you use the term cull.

dad said:
You see, the horror would be to make man without a plan for salvation. The horror would be to have allowed wickedness to triumph and result in the perdition of man.

God's plan for salvation:

Have Adam & Eve eat the forbidden fruit.
Blame Adam & Eve.
Curse all mankind.
Horrifically kill almost all of mankind (including innocents and those still in the womb)

That is horrible wickedness.

dad said:
Instead, He guided a people through history, so that Salvation could come. If that plan were allowed to have been foiled by the rampant wickedness of men, that would be the horror.

What guidance? Other than perpetuating sorties about God's wrath, Noah and sons provided no guidance.

dad said:
Instead, He came down Personally to suffer horribly for us, and show His real love and plan.

SUFFER HORRIBLY?

Allegedly your God is eternal. Jesus' stay on the cross is less than the blink of an eye in God's eternal life.

Allegedly your God is omnipotent. Jesus' pain on the cross is less than the pain of cutting a toenail.

The people who suffered horribly are the ones who your God/Jesus buried alive in mudslides.

ecco · Oct 10, 2019

ecco said:
You have no way of knowing that anything recorded is anything that Jesus did or did not say. The authors of the Gospels were not first-hand eyewitnesses.

dad said:
Yes, some were. He made a way to know and promised to get His words to us just right.

You say that but you cannot name any nor show how they could have been eyewitnesses. Do you really think we should take your word for it? Silly boy.

ecco · Oct 10, 2019

dad said:
False. I explained that Jesus is not like you think by your interpreting the OT without using the revealed Person of Jesus!

Nonsense. You have explained nothing! You have ducked and dodged my comments and the comments of many others.

You believe Jesus is God.
You believe God is eternal.

If both the above are correct, then Jesus/God caused the Great Flood.

If either is false, please explain.

Subduction Zone · Oct 10, 2019

dad said:
Raging eh?

No, you seem rather calm right now.

Why do you have to ask others how you are doing?

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