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If Messiah was on earth today.

Dawnofhope

Non-Proselytizing Baha'i
Staff member
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If Messiah was on earth today as a person, wouldn't that mean that the world (because of the internet) would know it in an instant from when it happened? And if someone spoke to Him, he would know who he was and be able to truly give evidence that was reliable and true?
Would He be afraid of giving teaching again at the end time, that the bible speaks about?
What language would He speak?

We would speak in a manner that would be comprehensible to none except those whom God chooses to guide.
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
If Messiah was on earth today as a person, wouldn't that mean that the world (because of the internet) would know it in an instant from when it happened? And if someone spoke to Him, he would know who he was and be able to truly give evidence that was reliable and true?
Would He be afraid of giving teaching again at the end time, that the bible speaks about?
What language would He speak?
Amanakai, do you assume there is such a thing as a messiah?
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
Amanakai, do you assume there is such a thing as a messiah?
For Jews, and ,Christians yes, i do not see a reason why it should not be. Just as I think the different God we hear about in different religions Also is true. But for this life, the teachings of Buddha Sakyamuni is what I follow
 
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wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
Since he would be the Leader of Israel, he would have to speak at least Hebrew, English, and Arabic.
How many Arabs and Hebrews speak English?... As Isaiah 28:11 says, 'he will speak to his people in another language', and 'he is called/raised from the North' (Isaiah 41:25).

In my opinion.
:innocent:
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
How many Arabs and Hebrews speak English?... As Isaiah 28:11 says, 'he will speak to his people in another language', and 'he is called/raised from the North' (Isaiah 41:25).

In my opinion.
:innocent:
North as in North of Europe? or as in North of Isreal, or North of countries near Israel?
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
North as in North of Europe? or as in North of Isreal, or North of countries near Israel?
It could be assumed based on a minimum scope of Isaiah's words to only be referring to the Northern Kingdom or somewhere local...

Yet when we consider Isaiah used the word 'world' תּבל têbêl H8398 multiple times about Judgement on the whole world (Isaiah 13:11, Isaiah 14:17, Isaiah 14:21, Isaiah 18:3, Isaiah 24:4, Isaiah 26:9, Isaiah 26:18, Isaiah 27:6, Isaiah 34:1), you'd think his text was therefore for the world, not just itemized to Israel as they've liked to claim.

In my opinion. :innocent:
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
It could be assumed based on a minimum scope of Isaiah's words to only be referring to the Northern Kingdom or somewhere local...

Yet when we consider Isaiah used the word 'world' תּבל têbêl H8398 multiple times about Judgement on the whole world (Isaiah 13:11, Isaiah 14:17, Isaiah 14:21, Isaiah 18:3, Isaiah 24:4, Isaiah 26:9, Isaiah 26:18, Isaiah 27:6, Isaiah 34:1), you'd think his text was therefore for the world, not just itemized to Israel as they've liked to claim.

In my opinion. :innocent:
At the time Isaiah lives, do you think they knew about Northern Europe? or other areas of the world? Could it mean "world" as in known area, so it would be North of the area they knew? Meaning Not to be in northern part of Europe, as in Scandinavia or Britain, France, Germany, and so on?
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
At the time Isaiah lives, do you think they knew about Northern Europe?
Isaiah had vision explaining Yeshua by name 700 years before it happened (Isaiah 52:10, etc), and Zechariah son of Berechiah 500 years (Isaiah 8:1, Zechariah 1:1)...

Thus the idea Isaiah needed to see these countries to know they were there seems limited.

In my opinion. :innocent:
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
Isaiah had vision explaining Yeshua by name 700 years before it happened (Isaiah 52:10, etc), and Zechariah son of Berechiah 500 years (Isaiah 8:1, Zechariah 1:1)...

Thus the idea Isaiah needed to see these countries to know they were there seems limited.

In my opinion. :innocent:
So based on this you believe Messiah second coming would be in North of Europe?
 

TransmutingSoul

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I can think that Jesus could come back in the end time for Jews and Christians, But not for a Buddhist, The end time not going to be easy, but it is how it will be no matter what happens

It sure is Amanaki, you are in that time, it is happening.

Regards Tony
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
It sure is Amanaki, you are in that time, it is happening.

Regards Tony
Yes i know the end time is near, But seen from a different P.O.V then Christians do :) I dont rely on a God or Buddha to save me just because they want to. To me it is more about what i do in cultivation and if should become fully enlightened the yes i would have been saved :)
 

TransmutingSoul

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Yes i know the end time is near, But seen from a different P.O.V then Christians do :) I dont rely on a God or Buddha to save me just because they want to. To me it is more about what i do in cultivation and if should become fully enlightened the yes i would have been saved :)

I see it is our personal choices to do good to all men. It is those actions that bring confirmations of the Spirit and it is those actions that can guide us.

Regards Tony
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
So based on this you believe Messiah second coming would be in North of Europe?
I've got reasoning based on the texts to show that this qualifies the Messiah can come from anywhere North of Israel, which is where Isaiah was placed when writing it.

The reference in Isaiah 41:25 to crushing the pots is Messiah item specific, plus Isaiah 41:27 is King Zion our Divine Being (Isaiah 52:7) bringing the Good News (Gospel)...

Thus thank you for asking the question.

In my opinion. :innocent:
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
For Jews, and ,Christians yes, i do not see a reason why it should not be. Just as I think the different God we hear about in different religions Also is true. But for this life, the teachings of Buddha Sakyamuni is what I follow
I agree that that's what Jews and Christians believe, but I was asking you personally, since you're a Buddhist.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
I agree that that's what Jews and Christians believe, but I was asking you personally, since you're a Buddhist.
As a Buddhist no I do not follow the Messiah prophesy but I do respect those who do and will support them when discussing the topic.
As a Buddhist I only cultivate the teaching of Sakyamuni, But have an interest in all forms of spiritual scriptures.
 
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