Is Hell Really Fair?

Nowhere Man said:

It's a boogeyman tatic used to keep the children obedient and compliant and in one place.

"Don't leave or do this or do that or else the monster will get you".

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I believe some have used it that way but that does not eliminate the reality just because someone built up a fantasy around it.

ADigitalArtist said:

I don't believe that any more than I believe a gunman who says 'getting shot is simply the result of disobedience.' It is, at best, coercive and trying to dissolve responsibility by ambiguous language.

Hell is the quintessential example of retributive justice. And a very slanted one at that. As simple and crude 'eye for an eye' is, hell is 'eye for an eternity of torment and pain.' So even by rettibutitive standards, hell is unjust.

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I believe a policeman can give an order that has to be complied with or be shot. Of course choices make a difference between whether you live or die and where you go after you die.

I believe this statement is hard to understand but I will try to answer it. A choice is not a coercion. If I tell you not to drive a car because you are drunk, it is your choice that ended you smashed against a tree. The reality is that if there is only good on earth those who do not choose good have to go somewhere where they can't get back to earth. Hell serves that purpose.

Skwim said:

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Aside from the claim that god knows what's best for us so we shouldn't question his decisions,

DO YOU THINK THAT SPENDING AN ETERNITY SUFFERING IN HELL FOR A MISTAKE MADE ON EARTH IS FAIR?

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God does:

Matthew 25:46
"And these will go away into eternal punishment"​

I don't

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And your opinion?

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I don't agree with it. It's like capital punishment for someone who steps on your toes. Then you say that's just bad as raping kids. All suffer from sin.

It puts guilt on those who value all life despite their decision. It puts pride on those who made the right decision to go with the masses that killing is fine if justified by a authority


It kinda makes it difficult to see the generosity in charity where a believer gives food to all on earth but agrees they deserve to starve for eternity.

Good-Ole-Rebel said:

That is my point exactly.

Everyone asks if that is fair. Yet they don't want anything to do with God or Christ.

It is perfectly fair. You get what you want. I get what I want.

Good-Ole-Rebel

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I believe sometimes I think it would be better if God didn't love evil people and just left them in Hell forever. It wouldn't be fair but how fair is it we have to put up with evil?

Skwim said:

Matthew 25:46
“Then these evil people will go away to be punished forever.

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I believe eternal in this case means timeless not forever.

Evangelicalhumanist said:

Ah, excellent.

Now, define "righteous."

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I believe it is those who have received Jesus as Lord and Savior.

Muffled said:

I believe a policeman can give an order that has to be complied with or be shot. Of course choices make a difference between whether you live or die and where you go after you die.

I believe this statement is hard to understand but I will try to answer it. A choice is not a coercion. If I tell you not to drive a car because you are drunk, it is your choice that ended you smashed against a tree. The reality is that if there is only good on earth those who do not choose good have to go somewhere where they can't get back to earth. Hell serves that purpose.

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Police can only open fire if there is a clear, demonstrable danger to themselves or others. They are beholden to outside evaluation and are not moral arbiters. They are subject to the law they serve and that law is based on consequentialist ethics, not virtuisms or divine theory.

Someone who makes themselves judge, jury and executioner is a vigilantee. And they should not be followed, at their behest or might makes right threats. Every tyrant says 'obey or die, your choice.' And every tyrant says 'it's for your own good.'

But hell is unjust on it's very face. To laud it is to laud injustice. Even annihilationist Christians are more righteous than those who believe in an eternal pit of torment.

Muffled said:

I believe sometimes I think it would be better if God didn't love evil people and just left them in Hell forever. It wouldn't be fair but how fair is it we have to put up with evil?

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I would first ask, does God love evil people?

Good-Ole-Rebel