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Check Out Where Your State Ranks Educationwise

MikeDwight

MikeDwight

Well-Known Member
None of that has ever been fair for over 20 years. South has half the blacks still. Ever since the federalist took away segregation, we've resorted to the ancient law of the land, sho ram bo, including large sticks, until such time I suppose some Federal Court c ome says we can't.
 
Salvador

Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian
Sunstone said:
http://worldpopulationreview.com/states/public-school-rankings-by-state/

Politics seems to matter. Overall, the more liberal states tend to be clustered in the top half of the rankings, and the more conservatives states tend to be clustered in the bottom half of the rankings -- rather than being randomly distributed.
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Correlation does not absolutely imply causation.

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sun rise

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
It's interesting to me that states which are at the top in higher education are not at the top in K-12.
 
Salvador

Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian
Nowhere Man said:
I'm shocked that Florida is in the top three overall score.
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Me too, based on the way Floridians conduct elections. Many of them couldn't even figure out how to cast their votes for the candidate of their choice on a butter-fly designed ballot. However, this did fortunately prevent Al Gore from getting elected to be the 43rd U.S. President.

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Twilight Hue

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Salvador said:
Me too, based on the way Floridians conduct elections. Many of them couldn't even figure out how to cast their votes for the candidate of their choice on a butter-fly designed ballot. However, this did fortunately prevent Al Gore from getting elected to be the 43rd U.S. President.

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I want to defend the Republicans so bad in that state, but I just can't.

Florida is the most screwed-up backwards State I've ever seen.
 
Shadow Wolf

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
Salvador said:
Correlation does not absolutely imply causation.
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True, but red states are known for taking chainsaws to education budgets, with Republicans being known to some times downplay the improtance of an education, sometimes even discouraging a higher education.
 
Salvador

Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian
Shadow Wolf said:
True, but red states are known for taking chainsaws to education budgets, with Republicans being known to some times downplay the improtance of an education, sometimes even discouraging a higher education.
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Despite the fact the U.S. spends more on education than what almost any other nation spends for education, the overall academic test scores of American students are lower than the test scores of students in countries spending less money on their education. In conclusion, throwing money at education does not guarantee better results for American students.

Throwing Money at Education a Proven Failure | FreedomWorks

https://www.americanexperiment.org/2017/06/link-school-spending-student-achievement/
 
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Daemon Sophic

Daemon Sophic

Avatar in flux
Sunstone said:
http://worldpopulationreview.com/states/public-school-rankings-by-state/

Politics seems to matter. Overall, the more liberal states tend to be clustered in the top half of the rankings, and the more conservatives states tend to be clustered in the bottom half of the rankings -- rather than being randomly distributed.
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Shadow Wolf said:
True, but red states are known for taking chainsaws to education budgets, with Republicans being known to some times downplay the improtance of an education, sometimes even discouraging a higher education.
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This correlates well with a long held belief of mine that whenever you see an electoral map in detail, the rural countryside tends to be red (republican), while the urban centers are blue (Democratic).
Republicans often state that this is the uneducated, poor and black voters in the cities who ‘foolishly’ vote for Democrats.
My supposition, long upheld by statistics, is that the cities are where you see more well-educated people, since this is where all of the best schools and universities are, along with jobs requiring better and higher levels of education. And this is why the urban centers are blue, while the uneducated rural communities are red.
 
Shadow Wolf

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
Salvador said:
Despite the fact the U.S. spends more on education than what almost any other nation spends for education, the overall academic test scores of American students are lower than the test scores of students in countries spending less money on their education. In conclusion, throwing money at education does not guarantee better results for American students.

Throwing Money at Education a Proven Failure | FreedomWorks
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And if they're struggling, the proper response is to have teacher salaries cut and ensure they have to purchase classroom supplies with their own money? Or, how about not dodge the observation put forward? Red states are often not friends of education.
 
Flame

Flame

Beware
Huh.. my state is number 18.

Would of thought it would of been much lower but we do have quite a bit of pride in our colleges.
 
Salvador

Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian
Shadow Wolf said:
And if they're struggling, the proper response is to have teacher salaries cut and ensure they have to purchase classroom supplies with their own money? Or, how about not dodge the observation put forward? Red states are often not friends of education.
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A teacher typically spends ca. $500 annually on school supplies for her/his classroom. This only amounts to around an average of one percent of the teacher's annual total compensation. Hardly any teacher is going broke from buying school supplies for his/her classroom students.

Teachers spend hundreds of dollars on back to school supplies - Marketplace
 
Shadow Wolf

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
Sunstone

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
Salvador said:
Correlation does not absolutely imply causation.
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That is certainly true, which is why, from a methodological and epistemic standpoint, a solid analysis will take into account multiple sources of information and most likely seek a significant degree of consilience before advancing a causal explanation.
 
Salvador

Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian
Shadow Wolf said:
Teachers shouldn't have to spend any of their own money school supplies. And 500? That's a lot of money.
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I earn ca. 50k annually in capital gains from investments and another ca. 50k yearly on average from counting cards at casino blackjack tables in similar fashion to how MIT students counted cards in the movie 21. I tip each of my favorite dealers at least $500 semi-annually of which I don't regret. Hence, almost any teacher shouldn't complain about spending $500 each year for his/her classroom students.



 
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Sunstone

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
Shadow Wolf said:
And if they're struggling, the proper response is to have teacher salaries cut and ensure they have to purchase classroom supplies with their own money? Or, how about not dodge the observation put forward? Red states are often not friends of education.
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I dimly recall that teachers were once able to write off $200 of the money they spent on school supplies as a deduction on their Federal tax form, but that was changed a year or two ago -- now they can't write off anything (assuming my memory is correct, which it might not be).
 
Shadow Wolf

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
Salvador said:
I tip each of my favorite dealers at least $500 semi-annually of which I don't regret. Hence, almost any teacher shouldn't complain about spending $500 each year for his/her classroom students.
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Just because you can be dumb with your money doesnt mean you get to expect others to carelessly throw away their money, or use it when they shouldn't be expected to.
And, for your information, there is no state where the average teacher salary is at least $50,000/year - lots of states average isn't even $40,000.
 
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