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Is Hell Really Fair?
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Samantha Rinne
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I dislike C.S. Lewis's assessment of Hell.
The basic truth of Afterlife is that it reflects exactly what a person wants and feels they deserve. In this way, Hell has always been fair except to one group of people. The self-loathing. This is exactly the reason why Jesus came, because those who were decent people could sentence themselves to torment, who psychopaths with no remorse might declare themselves guiltless. Jesus was sent to condemn the proud and comfort the troubled.
In this way, an atheist who wants to have no afterlife has none, a Buddhist follows the Six Paths, a Hindu reincarnates, and a Christian has an afterlife.
InChrist
Free4ever
Cancer in children or any other degenerative disease proves that the Bible is correct when it states that the fall of humanity into sin negatively impacted all of creation. Everything is in a degenerate condition in need of salvation.
Spartan
Well-Known Member
Here's something for you guys to think about: Where does it say that the God who rules the universe has to be someone you approve of? What if the God who rules just happens to be someone who throws unbelievers into Hell for all eternity? What are you going to do? WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO, continue to be a non-believer and wind up in Hell? Really?
Every once in a while I hear the bravado of an unbeliever belching out, "I'd rather spend eternity in Hell than with those evil believers." That's incredibly dumb and naive. After just five minutes in Hell the stiff-necked crowd will be wailing and trying everything they can to get out of the fire. It's not going to be a party down there. According to at least one source who was supernaturally allowed to view Hell, it's devastating, incredibly painful. You'll have your own pit of fire and no one ever to talk to. And there will be the demons of Hell breaking your bones and the stench of hot sulfur will leave you gasping for breath. And then, it will dawn on you that all hope of ever getting out is lost, and you're in for the first painful century of untold eons of time.
Bob the Unbeliever
Well-Known Member
Oh. My. How does Cancer in Children-- who are innocent (supposedly) , prove the ugly bible?
Explain in detail how any being who claims to be "good" could torture the innocent in such a way?
Skwim
Veteran Member
Ah yes, Pascal's wager. And you think your omniscient god couldn't see through that?
Until you can convince us that such a god exists why should we care what is said of him, other than to use him as an object of debate of course?
Still can't answer my question can you. My sneaking suspicion is that you do think hell is unfair, but are afraid if god hears you admit it you'll end up in his hell. Kind of has you by the short hairs doesn't he.
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Spartan
Well-Known Member
It doesn't matter whether I believe an eternal Hell exists or not. I'm not the one going there (John 5:24).
You reckon? You might be in for a shock one day if a god exists and doesn't like the way you bring Christianity into disrepute as you do on this forum.
Skwim
Veteran Member
How can you be sure? Are you positive you've dotted all your "I"s and crossed all your "T"s, and will continue to do so?
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Bob the Unbeliever
Well-Known Member
So sure you are. So full of pride you have. Is not pride and self-certainty a sin?
Oh! My! You are so going to hell as a result of that...
Spartan
Well-Known Member
Go tell your follies to your tuna-breath, hairball cat.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
No it's actually a demonstration on how nature works.
If anything , cancer is probably a natural checks and balance.
Can you imagine if everything wasn't degenerative? I assure you it would be a vision of hell.
Bob the Unbeliever
Well-Known Member
Definitely hell for YOU. LOL!
“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.”
― Mahatma Gandhi.
Bob the Unbeliever
Well-Known Member
Just going by his posts of both pride of self, and hate for others? Not a chance.
Spartan
Well-Known Member
Gandhi is probably going to be in big trouble at the Judgment for rejecting Christ as his Savior (John 3:36; Rev. 21:8, etc.).
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
I am glad you still remember your Bible Bob.
Some Christians around here don't know it very well.
Matthew 7:21-23 New King James Version (NKJV)
I Never Knew You
21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
No, because Gandhi will be fine because he said “I like your Christ."
Bob the Unbeliever
Well-Known Member
Yet. Ghandi was far closer to the Christian Life that Jesus set an example for, than (at a guess) 90% of modern day self-styled "christians".
Ironic, much?
According to your own bible? You are still headed for hell, though-- that sin of pride.
Spartan
Well-Known Member
In your dreams. Unbelief is a sin. Revelation 21:8 states all unbelievers will be cast into the Lake of Fire.