Death in religions

j1i said:

rain not reign

This is in talking about the Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him

I'll give you the link and talk and you'll literal translation
Google translator specializing in Arabic language
Arabic grammar is complicated

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يُنفخُ في الصورِ والصورُ كهيئةِ القَرنِ فيُصعَقُ من في السَّماواتِ ومن في الأرضِ وبين النفختَين أربعينَ عامًا ويمطِرُ اللهُ في تلك الأربعينَ مطرًا فينبُتونَ من الأرضِ كما ينبُتُ البَقْلُ ومن الإنسانِ عظمٌ لا تأكلُه الأرضُ عَجْبُ ذنَبِه وفيه يركَّبُ الجسَدُ خلقهُ يومَ القيامةِ ، قال : ثمَّ ذكر البعثَ وذكر الحسابَ فيوضعُ الصِّراطُ ويتمثَّلُ لهم ربُّهم فيقالُ : لتنطلقْ كلُّ أمةٍ إلى ما كانت تعبدُ حتَّى إذا بَقِيَ المسلمونَ قيل لهم : ألا تذهبونَ قد ذهب النَّاسُ فيقولون : حتَّى يأتيَ ربُّنا فيقولُ : من ربُّكم فيقولونَ : ربُّنا اللهُ لا شريكَ له فيقالُ : هل تعرِفونَ ربَّكم إذا رأيتموهُ ؟ فيقولون : إذا تعرَّف لنا عرفناهُ فيقولُ : أنا ربُّكم ، فيقولونَ : نعوذُ باللهِ منك فيكشفُ لهم عن ساقٍ فيقعونَ له سُجَّدًا ويجسُرُ أصلابُ المنافقينَ ولا يستطيعونَ سجودًا فذلك قوله : { يَوْمَ يُكْشَفُ عَنْ سَاقٍ وَيُدْعَوْنَ إِلَى السُّجُودِ فَلَا يَسْتَطِيعُونَ } [ القلم : 42 ] ثمَّ ينطلقُ ويتبعُ أثرهُ وهو على الصِّراطِ حتَّى يجوزوا على النارِ فإذا جازوا فكُّل خزَنةِ الجنةِ يدعوه يا مسلمُ ها هنا خيرٌ لك ، فقال أبو بكرٍ : من ذلك المسلمُ يا رسولَ اللهِ ؟ قال : إني لأطمعُ أنْ تكونَ أحدهُم
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Thats a lot rain

Good-Ole-Rebel said:

Yes Israel rejected Jesus Christ and has been rejected by God. And she has been under the judgement of God ever since. But God is not finished with Israel. He will be faithful to His promises to her. (Rom. 11:25) "...blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fullness of the Gentles be come in." As it implies also in the verse you gave, (Matt. 23:39) "...till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord."

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Romans 9:27-29....
"Moreover, Isaiah cries out concerning Israel: “Although the number of the sons of Israel may be as the sand of the sea, only the remnant will be saved. 28 For Jehovah will make an accounting on the earth, concluding it and cutting it short.” 29 Also, just as Isaiah foretold: “Unless Jehovah of armies had left an offspring to us, we should have become just like Sodʹom, and we should have resembled Go·morʹrah.”"

It was only ever prophesied that a "remnant" of natural Jews would be saved. The Jews as a nation will never bless the one who came in the name of Jehovah. Individuals from that nation will but not all. What is a remnant?

As Isaiah said "Unless Jehovah of armies had left an offspring to us, we should have become just like Sodʹom, and we should have resembled Go·morʹrah"......that is total annihilation. The "Israel of God" is not natural Israel. (Galatians 6:16) God chose a new nation to replace those unfaithful people. (Acts 15:14)

Good-Ole-Rebel said:

Give me the verse you allude concerning what Paul said. As I have said, the first resurrection speaks to that of all believers, no matter when the certain resurrections occur. There are two classifications of resurrection. One of life, and one of death.

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1 Thessalonians 4:13-17.....
"But we do not want you to be uninformed, brethren, about those who are asleep, so that you will not grieve as do the rest who have no hope. 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who have fallen asleep in Jesus. 15 For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord, will not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord."

The two resurrections mentioned in scripture indicate that those who are chosen to rule with Christ will be resurrected "first" (Revelation 20:6) and those who are still in their graves will hear Jesus call them out to a "resurrection of life" or to a "resurrection of judgment". (John 5:28-29) Both are called from the same place during the 1,000 year reign of Christ. There is no resurrection to death.

Good-Ole-Rebel said:

The righteous and unrighteous are not raised at the same time. In the resurrections spoken of in (Rev. 20:4-6) there is a thousand year difference. (20:5)

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The thousand years of Christ's reign is allotted to bring redeemed humanity back into reconciliation with God. This means that the resurrection of all the dead must take place during the thousand years. Their "coming to life" in this instance is not their resurrection but the regaining of the original sinless life that God purposed for humans in the beginning. What Adam lost in Eden, Jesus bought back for us with the sacrifice of his own life. At the end of the thousand years, God will release the devil for one last test on the now sinless human race. (Revelation 20:1-3) Any who fail that test will experience the second death.....a place from which no one awakens. It is eternal death.

Deeje said:

Romans 9:27-29....
"Moreover, Isaiah cries out concerning Israel: “Although the number of the sons of Israel may be as the sand of the sea, only the remnant will be saved. 28 For Jehovah will make an accounting on the earth, concluding it and cutting it short.” 29 Also, just as Isaiah foretold: “Unless Jehovah of armies had left an offspring to us, we should have become just like Sodʹom, and we should have resembled Go·morʹrah.”"

It was only ever prophesied that a "remnant" of natural Jews would be saved. The Jews as a nation will never bless the one who came in the name of Jehovah. Individuals from that nation will but not all. What is a remnant?

As Isaiah said "Unless Jehovah of armies had left an offspring to us, we should have become just like Sodʹom, and we should have resembled Go·morʹrah"......that is total annihilation. The "Israel of God" is not natural Israel. (Galatians 6:16) God chose a new nation to replace those unfaithful people. (Acts 15:14)



1 Thessalonians 4:13-17.....
"But we do not want you to be uninformed, brethren, about those who are asleep, so that you will not grieve as do the rest who have no hope. 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who have fallen asleep in Jesus. 15 For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord, will not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord."

The two resurrections mentioned in scripture indicate that those who are chosen to rule with Christ will be resurrected "first" (Revelation 20:6) and those who are still in their graves will hear Jesus call them out to a "resurrection of life" or to a "resurrection of judgment". (John 5:28-29) Both are called from the same place during the 1,000 year reign of Christ. There is no resurrection to death.



The thousand years of Christ's reign is allotted to bring redeemed humanity back into reconciliation with God. This means that the resurrection of all the dead must take place during the thousand years. Their "coming to life" in this instance is not their resurrection but the regaining of the original sinless life that God purposed for humans in the beginning. What Adam lost in Eden, Jesus bought back for us with the sacrifice of his own life. At the end of the thousand years, God will release the devil for one last test on the now sinless human race. (Revelation 20:1-3) Any who fail that test will experience the second death.....a place from which no one awakens. It is eternal death.

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Israel being a remnant doesn't mean she will not be a nation of God again. (Gal. 6:16) doesn't say the Gentiles are the 'Israel of God'. It speaks to the Israel of God, the remnant of Israel found in the Church. Concerning (Acts 15:14) that is speaking of God now turning to the Gentiles. But read (15:15-16) "...After this I will return, and will build again the tabernacle of David, which is fallen down..." See, God once again restoring Israel.

(1 Thess. 4:14-17) is part of the first resurrection, the resurrection unto life. It pertains to those Christians who have died and their spirits are with God. Their bodies sleep, not their spirits. It pertains to those Christians who are alive when Christ returns.

The first resurrection pertains to life. The second resurrection pertains to death. (Rev. 20:5-6) "...on such the second death hath no power...." (20:12) "...And I saw the dead....and the dead were judged out of those things which were written...." There is no 'second death' unless they are resurrected.

All the dead will not be raised during the 1000 year reign. Scripture is clear. (Rev. 20:5) "But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished."

Good-Ole-Rebel

Jim25 said:

Thats a lot rain

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The process of revival will affect all creatures and the earth will be very wide and creatures for thousands of years or millions of years does not know how many creatures
Figures exceed 63 zeros

@Jim25
According to the Bible, every person goes to paradise or hell after death.(Luke 16:19-31)

calm said:

@Jim25
According to the Bible, every person goes to paradise or hell after death.(Luke 16:19-31)

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Everyone needs the mercy of God
I want everyone to follow the right faith to get Happinese from god

But in return as behaviour and habits
We Don't try to change someone to suit us
you Do not change yourself to suit others
We were created differently to complement, not a reincarnation

Difference has another beauty!

GOD mercy you brother and all mankind
pray for you
amen