Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
I was once one of them. I know exactly how they use the Bible to justify hatred. Up to and including saying the Holocaust was just because "god punished his people again and again in the Old Testament."
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The Tragedy Of Transgendered Youth
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Prestor John
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I swear after this post I'm going to read everything you sent me before responding to you again.
What has been said is that the level of persecution suffered by the transgender community in the U.S. today cannot account for their rate of suicide.
Any claim that their rate of suicide is based solely on discrimination and persecution is disingenuous and ignorant of the history of Man's inhumanity to Man.
This level of instability points to an underlying mental issue that is not being addressed.
That is a human condition. It isn't owned only by Christians.
Not all Christians are the same. Not all Christians agree.
You are quick to blame Christians for slavery and the Holocaust, but you always forget that it was other Christians that ended slavery in the West and stormed the beaches of Normandy.
You can do the same thing with science/language/culture.
No one ever said that discrimination and persecutions were good things.
What has been said is that the level of persecution suffered by the transgender community in the U.S. today cannot account for their rate of suicide.
Any claim that their rate of suicide is based solely on discrimination and persecution is disingenuous and ignorant of the history of Man's inhumanity to Man.
This level of instability points to an underlying mental issue that is not being addressed.
Every group of people have a long history of targeting any other group that is different from them.
That is a human condition. It isn't owned only by Christians.
Not all Christians are the same. Not all Christians agree.
You are quick to blame Christians for slavery and the Holocaust, but you always forget that it was other Christians that ended slavery in the West and stormed the beaches of Normandy.
This same thing can be said about the LGBT community targeting Christians.
I am going to finish what you sent me, but I haven't seen anything but opinion and confirmation bias so far.
I know of it and I believe it is just another way that people are trying to justify bad life decisions they make and absolve themselves of personal responsibility.
Christians reinvent Christianity every time they want to justify their behavior (owning slaves/killing Jews).
You can do the same thing with science/language/culture.
Kangaroo Feathers
Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
Good. Stop doing it then.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
How many of them have a "head figure/top role model" who said "judge not?" And continue to judge any ways?
We aren't the ones trying to tell Christians we don't want to serve them at our business, rent our apartments to them, or work with them.
Prestor John
Well-Known Member
You have used this reference falsely before and I corrected you then.
Should I correct you again?
Says the person who moved to California to literally no longer around these particular types of people.
I wonder how much of the "hatred" you claimed to receive was imagined.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
So are you saying it's false that Jesus said "judge not" and "let he who is without sin cast the first stone?"
None of it was. People even told me to leave (directly to my face). Unfriendly, hostile, and aggressive glares where common. Yes, I wanted to get away from those types of people. I've been able to let down my defenses since and I'm not nearly as angry because here people pretty much mostly leave me alone.
I also left because there are few job opportunities and the wages are low. And because the winters in Indiana suck (especially since I have a pretty bad knee and slips on ice often hurt at the very minimum).
And my point still stands. The LGBT community isn't the community fighting for exclusion and discrimination. We aren't promoting "therapy" that leaves people worse off. We aren't insisting a medically supervised treatment isn't an appropriate course of action. We aren't the ones butting our nose in where it doesn't even belong. We aren't the ones letting an issue that doesn't effect us get to us, and we aren't creating legal situations where our personal and private bull**** effects the lives of others.
Prestor John
Well-Known Member
Disagreeing with someone is not discrimination or persecution.
Tiberius
Well-Known Member
It is when a person uses their disagreement as an excuse to stop the person from being themselves.
Prestor John
Well-Known Member
Hah!
It is literally impossible for my disagreements with people to stop t hem from begin themselves.
Are you high?
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
Not necessarily, but when your disagreements include lies and falsehoods, it starts to look like it.
Prestor John
Well-Known Member
That is ;literally untrue.
Even if I were to lie about these things (I'm not) that would not be either discrimination or persecution.
To discriminate against someone I would need to treat them unjustly due to their differences.
To persecute someone I would need to be hostile toward them due to their differences.
I would disagree with anyone who claimed that we could change our sex. It would not matter if that person were heterosexual, homosexual, transgender or anything in between.
I would call them out for that lie regardless of their race, sex, religious or political affiliation or anything else.
It is not unjust to disagree with someone.
It is not hostile to disagree with someone.
Tiberius
Well-Known Member
I'm sorry, did you think I was talking about you specifically?
I was talking about the people who are responsible for creating laws. Is that you?
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
You said in full of hate. That is a lie. You have said I'm miserable from transitioning. That is so much a lie I won't be crying today like I used to on my birthday. Because I'm not that miserable heap of flesh I used to be. But you keep insisting I'm the one who is lying even though you seemingly need to rely on fantasy and make up things about me to force-squeeze me into your world view. You're so filled with arrogance and contempt that you've told me what I really need is what you think I need, even after I've told you that left me so miserable I was suicidal. I say otherwise, but you continue on with your lies.
Tiberius
Well-Known Member
*Loves*