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Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
I hold two different views of consciousness. One would be more like the electricity that goes through a light bulb if that is the case.

A type of potential that is there, that affects certain types of matter, maybe its a type of energy, but certainly not the new agey concept of the word.

Either that , or Consciousness is simply an emergent property like the light, heat, and radiation coming from a light bulb. Like the ear 'hears' and the eye 'sees' all having to do with reactive matter.

It is an interesting phenomena
I like both of your views :) Even after more than 20 years as Buddhist there is still a lot to realize that is unclear still, and understanding Consciousness is actually not as easy as it sounds :)
 

MikeDwight

Well-Known Member
Not a single person in a single place said buddhist. Now I chased him to his thread to insult buddhism. No intent, no apology.
 

osgart

Nothing my eye, Something for sure
Personally i enjoy the concept of self minus the ego.

To me, we are all selves that must contend with ego. Nature must make the distinction of selves and other selves otherwise we would not form into individual bodies.

The more i look at the human form it appears to me to be an artistic conception.
 

blü 2

Veteran Member
Premium Member
What if we all belong to the same consciousness, but we see it from different P.O.V?
i don't know how that could work. Each of us has a self-awareness, a sense of self, generated by our own individual evolved brain. When we die, our consciousness dies with us. It's the only one we ever possess.

As @9-10ths_Penguin said, it's not a shared thing, otherwise the consequences would be hugely different to what we see. So let me look at that from your point of view and ask:

What experiment can we make to test whether your hypothesis works in reality or not?

What real ─ that is, testable and falsifiable ─ consequences are predicted by what you say?
 
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Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
i don't know how that could work. Each of us has a self-awareness, a sense of self, generated by our own individual evolved brain. When we die, our consciousness dies with us. It's the only one we ever possess.

As @9-10ths Penguin said, it's not a shared thing, otherwise the consequences would be hugely different to what we see. So let me look at that from your point of view and ask:

What experiment can we make to test whether your hypothesis works in reality or not?

What real ─ that is, testable and falsifiable ─ consequences are predicted by what you say?
I don't know if it can be compared directly but I know some monks who were in a science experiment who linked their mind together, so the data is there, But directly linked consciousness I not sure science yet have proved.

My words about one consciousness are from my own experience within meditation (not yet tested for this by science)
 

blü 2

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I don't know if it can be compared directly but I know some monks who were in a science experiment who linked their mind together, so the data is there, But directly linked consciousness I not sure science yet have proved.

My words about one consciousness are from my own experience within meditation (not yet tested for this by science)
When you say 'some monks ... linked their minds together', what did they actually do? What does 'linked their minds' mean? How can the linking of minds be demonstrated?
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
When you say 'some monks ... linked their minds together', what did they actually do? What does 'linked their minds' mean? How can the linking of minds be demonstrated?
From what i know they meditate and use a meditation technique to be able to used only mind to speak with each other. They were connected to computers so science could investigate their brain activity.

i will see if i can find the report
 

sealchan

Well-Known Member
What if we all belong to the same consciousness, but we see it from different P.O.V?

I would prefer to say that consciousness is emergent from individual brain activity which arose through the evolution of DNA recorded species on the one hand and on the other is also molded by language and culture. So it is both an individual and a collective phenomenon.
 

j1i

Smiling is charity without giving money
What if we all belong to the same consciousness, but we see it from different P.O.V?

Belief in God does not reach everyone
Some deny these details because of the absence of the right to get the right information from previous sources

The invention of variable ideas, as a kind of placebo

also the needs drive us to share cognition in many things of life like agriculture, Trade and Industry

Cultural exchange is beautiful
Industrial exchange is beautiful
A countries selling oil
A countries that sells timber
A country that sells silk
A country sells Sony Playstation lool :D:p
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
Belief in God does not reach everyone
Some deny these details because of the absence of the right to get the right information from previous sources

The invention of variable ideas, as a kind of placebo

also the needs drive us to share cognition in many things of life like agriculture, Trade and Industry

Cultural exchange is beautiful
Industrial exchange is beautiful
A countries selling oil
A countries that sells timber
A country that sells silk
A country sells Sony Playstation lool :D:p
You mention a lot of daily activities i do not take part in :) My "study" is how to become spiritual independent from the attachments to a physical objects. But yes some must do those things you mention :)
 

j1i

Smiling is charity without giving money
You mention a lot of daily activities i do not take part in :) My "study" is how to become spiritual independent from the attachments to a physical objects. But yes some must do those things you mention :)

thank you my friend
me also doing spiritual practices but in an open field to fly to the truth
And also to know myself and review them from their mistakes and this practice in the field of closed and self sustaining by Blame

The process of trying to revive the conscience of the dead heart
 

blü 2

Veteran Member
Premium Member
From what i know they meditate and use a meditation technique to be able to used only mind to speak with each other. They were connected to computers so science could investigate their brain activity.

i will see if i can find the report
Grateful for the report, if you can find it. I've never heard of new information being passed in that manner.
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
Even after more than 20 years as Buddhist there is still a lot to realize that is unclear still, and understanding Consciousness is actually not as easy as it sounds :)
Buddha said 'Do not try to do that (Acinteyya). It does not help, only waxes your mind. Just pay attention to the noble Eight-Fold Path', your 'Dhamma'. Let the 'Dhammacakka' move'.
 
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