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What was your religious education in public schools by State?

rocala

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If we try again, the OP is asking you to write numbers 1-15

Always happy to oblige. I went to a state (non-private) school with a very bad reputation, in East London. Leaving in 1973. I mention this as I have no Idea if what I describe is typical for England or even London, at that time. However, I doubt it,

Religious Instruction, that is Bible Studies was compulsory but I recall virtually nothing from it.
I had heard of Oliver Cromwell. Anne Boleyn is connected to my area and for totally non-religious reasons was well known.
Henry VIII, I think everybody in Britain had heard of him. Beyond six wives you would be lucky to find much more.

The rest of your list would have been meaningless to me at that time.
 
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MikeDwight

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Oh ya? Funny I talk to Danish or Swedes, and its all about the oil in the Baltic sea. You must relate to the King sir, and the King's faith? Anything? No Lutheranism. That's interesting . Ya well its after some effects from communism, isn't it, everybody up there is so social, don't let me be throwing labels, what a community place. Have you met the CEO's uncle.

Rocala. See my sneaking suspicion, how can we miss this Huge period of English history. I can't possibly have been That disinterested in school, and we're skipping Oliver Cromwell due to political connections. You mean they had a literal bible study credit course? Please tell me its extracurricular, I couldn't imagine that really. Well ya my parents had a Bible study since you said 73, and its all historical and open interpretation, something to read.

How do people end up knowing Anne Boleyn for non-religious reasons? Her father represented a Protestant faction who encouraged her for the King's marriage, she entreated the King through her sister as well, brought a Tyndale Bible into the Monarchy, and obviously the Protestants owe final resolution to her Kind with Queen Elizabeth's religious settlement or wars for Calvinism in Scotland or Netherlands. Obviously a Protestant recognizes the one True marriage of the King, huge politics for Europe.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
Oh ya? Funny I talk to Danish or Swedes, and its all about the oil in the Baltic sea. You must relate to the King sir, and the King's faith? Anything? No Lutheranism. That's interesting . Ya well its after some effects from communism, isn't it, everybody up there is so social, don't let me be throwing labels, what a community place. Have you met the CEO's uncle.

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To your information I follow Buddhism, and that is not a part of the norm in Norway. And no Norway is no longer a Christian country either. Politicians here took away Christianity as state religion many years ago.

Why do you appear like you get angry when you do not get the answers you like?
 

MikeDwight

Well-Known Member
Not anything particular to Your posts I don't think? No one else was following any of the stated purpose of the thread at all, which is odd. Do they need message # rankings and message counts? You said Norway, or Scandinavia is fine, and you said they had a broad sentence or two? They generally said "Religion", then gave you a few examples from world beliefs?
 

rocala

Well-Known Member
How do people end up knowing Anne Boleyn for non-religious reasons?
It is very simple. Local myth has it that she lived in a house here. The grounds of which became the home of our legendary football team, West Ham United. The ground (sadly gone) was always known as the Boleyn Ground. It was also the name of the nearby pub.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
Not anything particular to Your posts I don't think? No one else was following any of the stated purpose of the thread at all, which is odd. Do they need message # rankings and message counts? You said Norway, or Scandinavia is fine, and you said they had a broad sentence or two? They generally said "Religion", then gave you a few examples from world beliefs?
The religious teaching I got in school was basically only telling the limited info possible, just to get feel for what each religion has as their basic teaching. So it was never meant for us to get any wisdom from it, only so we could get a grad if we got into exam. to gain deeper wisdom from the religions, we have to study on our own. school teachings are only the minimum teaching needed
 

MikeDwight

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OH, so you like religion teaching? Its like a school you never get to use for anything, unlike Norwegian. Good luck with that religion teaching.

So the Popes are infallible, so the religious teaching on the papal bull to excommunicate Queen Elizabeth as a Calvinist is still in effect, so anyone that follows 60 years of English rule is a excommunicant who obeyed government, still today! The papal bull excommunicated a "Calvinist", she didn't entreat John Knox the woman-hater however, as though she owed religion's seat at the table.
 

Spirit of Light

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OH, so you like religion teaching? Its like a school you never get to use for anything, unlike Norwegian. Good luck with that religion teaching.
Yes religion is very important to me,and Buddhism is the teaching i follow in my own practice, but I have a genuine interest in other religious views and teachings too, but the teachers in schools here don't know enough
 

MikeDwight

Well-Known Member
Well any thoughts on Sweden's "Christina"?
Christina, Queen of Sweden - Wikipedia

Media seems to portray a pretend Queen Elizabeth, that leaves Lutheranism and lives with the Popes in Italy, a sort of counter-reformation symbol. Whats to talk about, Norway and religion? Hey while you're here, why is Scandinavia so scared of Nazi stuff, like they're Germany. Does anybody look at Scandinavia and assume Nazi, that's ridiculous.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
Well any thoughts on Sweden's "Christina"?
Christina, Queen of Sweden - Wikipedia

Media seems to portray a pretend Queen Elizabeth, that leaves Lutheranism and lives with the Popes in Italy, a sort of counter-reformation symbol. Whats to talk about, Norway and religion? Hey while you're here, why is Scandinavia so scared of Nazi stuff, like they're Germany. Does anybody look at Scandinavia and assume Nazi, that's ridiculous.
I have no thoughts about Christina Queen of Sweden. Why are Scandinavia is scared of Nazi stuff? Well, Norway was occupied of Germany, and send a lot of Norwegian Jews to concentration camps, so the generation before mine was affected hugely of it. I can not speak for those who experienced WW2 But my father was a kid at that time, and he spoke about how Germany was evil toward people.
Nazism was and still is evil
 

MikeDwight

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Ya well Buddhism is new enough that my mind goes to Einstein saying only Buddhism is going to appreciate the sciences. That is all such a US in-crowd, who knows where that is coming from anyway?
 

Spirit of Light

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Ya well Buddhism is new enough that my mind goes to Einstein saying only Buddhism is going to appreciate the sciences. That is all such a US in-crowd, who knows where that is coming from anyway?
Buddhism is 2600 year old teaching, so there are many religions that is younger then Buddhism.
 

MikeDwight

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Ya well the first person to claim to be a Buddhist of any relatability is going to be Einstein, the Dalai Llama, and some 60's hippies. They can cut your arms off, the real ones.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
Ya well the first person to claim to be a Buddhist of any relatability is going to be Einstein, the Dalai Llama, and some 60's hippies. They can cut your arms off, the real ones.
Do you know anything about Buddhism?
His Holiness Dalai lama belongs to Tibetan Buddhism and that is a bit different form of Buddhism then the Historical Buddha Sakyamuni was teaching.

There are 3 "schools" within Buddhism

Theravada (the one i study)
Mahayana
Vajrayana (Daila Lama study)
 

Darkstorn

This shows how unique i am.
I respond,
1,4,5,8,9,14
I may write in, education with Martin Luther King Jr.. you can count that as 15.
10, 13 may have been there
Northern Alabama

I'm in Finland and i was taught about ALL of those subjects in public school.

Yes, even Stonewall Jackson.

Furthermore, i'm not a protestant, or even a Christian, but i know a lot about the reformation and the centuries preceding it. And as an extension, also of its implications.

'Round here none of those are inherently religious subjects. I learned about those subjects mostly in history class.
 

MikeDwight

Well-Known Member
That is TOTALLY impressive. You mean to tell me the government of Finland's studies are that internationally meaningful? That's truly amazing for Finland then. Any local write-ins? Surely? Lutheranism again? Just curious...
BBC - Religions - Christianity: Martin Luther King Jr
You encouraged me to look up the BBC on Martin Luther King Jr. What a sense of humor. Growing up in 'separatist' America, RULE BRITANNIA, MLK Jr. stances for many the non-violent policies of Ghandi, LAND OF HOPE AND GLORY. Sorry impersonations.
 

Darkstorn

This shows how unique i am.
That is TOTALLY impressive. You mean to tell me the government of Finland's studies are that internationally meaningful? That's truly amazing for Finland then. Any local write-ins? Surely? Lutheranism again? Just curious...
BBC - Religions - Christianity: Martin Luther King Jr
You encouraged me to look up the BBC on Martin Luther King Jr. What a sense of humor. Growing up in 'separatist' America, RULE BRITANNIA, MLK Jr. stances for many the non-violent policies of Ghandi, LAND OF HOPE AND GLORY. Sorry impersonations.

Well, here's the thing, those might be "internationally meaningful" subjects but they are also directly related to overall "unified" European history, except for Stonewall Jackson that is.

Finland is a majority Lutheran country so a lot of stuff directly relates to its history, but again, that was still history class and the context was the entire reformation, including the Hussites of Bohemia(sort of proto-reformation based on ideas that later were included into Calvinism) and the thirty years' war.

There's a specific class for Lutherans which is pretty much "history of Lutheranism" and discussion regarding its differences to Catholic doctrine. But i'm not one so i didn't take that class.

Anyway, we did go on a LOT about the American civil war. And the revolutionary war too for that matter. I was very interested in history so i absorbed everything pretty much, and it was my strongest subject.

And Mr. Jackson happens to be one of my "historical role models," even if he was on the "wrong" side. :D
 

MikeDwight

Well-Known Member
Well I guess so. So you related to Finland having taught all those international religious topics? What about Amanaki's take about giving a broad religious overview of the world only? Just curious on standardization mainly.

Let's keep this about all our schools and he nationalists we're entrusting them to. Only thing I remember is Andrew Jackson and Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson seemed close enough on the lesson to get confused and the Battle of New Orleans, I think I actually got a unit wrong, which, probably on purpose. Good for them.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
When Napoleon tried for the new World we are so comfortable with today, saying he was the True Muslim, or when the French tried to give cannonry to the Ottomans. Why did the Ottomans reject French Cannons? The Imams said, well its heathen/heretic technology. I'm just pointing out something we think its easy to miss because racism tended to be the spread of technology, or technology sharers, or the odd case of islands feeling like they're other islands, and the japanese-English alliance, and the Brits handed over aircraft carriers and pilot instructors even.

This is the most important topic on religious forums. Especially when science was a tool Under religion.

Hey Guys! That's 4 posts on that one guy's rant about being an atheist. When Religion enters science and its still all rants.
"When Napoleon tried for the new World we are so comfortable with today, saying he was the True Muslim, or when the French tried to give cannonry to the Ottomans. Why did the Ottomans reject French Cannons? The Imams said, well its heathen/heretic technology. "

Quran/Islam/Muhammad has got nothing to do with empires and their thinking. Quran is for every time , every space and every people; including America, the West and or the East. Right, please?

Regards
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[34:29]وَ مَاۤ اَرۡسَلۡنٰکَ اِلَّا کَآفَّۃً لِّلنَّاسِ بَشِیۡرًا وَّ نَذِیۡرًا وَّ لٰکِنَّ اَکۡثَرَ النَّاسِ لَا یَعۡلَمُوۡنَ ﴿۲۹﴾
And We have not sent thee but as a bearer of glad tidings and a Warner, for all mankind, but most men know not.
The Holy Quran - Chapter: 34: Saba
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
When Napoleon tried for the new World we are so comfortable with today, saying he was the True Muslim, or when the French tried to give cannonry to the Ottomans. Why did the Ottomans reject French Cannons? The Imams said, well its heathen/heretic technology. I'm just pointing out something we think its easy to miss because racism tended to be the spread of technology, or technology sharers, or the odd case of islands feeling like they're other islands, and the japanese-English alliance, and the Brits handed over aircraft carriers and pilot instructors even.

This is the most important topic on religious forums. Especially when science was a tool Under religion.

Hey Guys! That's 4 posts on that one guy's rant about being an atheist. When Religion enters science and its still all rants.
"atheist"

I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim and a believer. I am not a nonbeliever, please.

Regards
 
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