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Ancient Reality

sooda

sooda

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gnostic said:
To @paarsurrey :


As you can see, paarsurrey, cladking is making things up.

There are no evidences whatsoever man constructed cities or invented agriculture 40,000 years ago.

The oldest city is Jericho. Jericho was repeatedly constructed over older permanent settlement, and there are more than 20 layers, and the oldest is layer (at the bottom) is about 11,000 years ago.

This layer was constructed around 9600 BCE, and by 9400 BCE, the town grew large enough to have 70 mud-straw brick circular houses. Even more fascinating is the fortified walls surrounding the town, and a tower. This fortification may have been constructed to keep the water of Jordan from flooding Jericho, and not keep invaders away.

The slightly younger Göbekli Tepe (just over 9100 BCE), located in sotheast of Anatolia, what we now called Turkey. By 7300 BCE, Göbekli Tepe was abandoned. Even today, archaeologists haven’t been able to determine the purposes of Göbekli Tepe.

They may have languages, spoken languages 40,000 years ago, but nothing written until 5300 years ago, or 3300 BCE, with the primitive forms of cuneiform were found in Uruk (the Genesis called this city, Erech). Egyptian hieroglyphs didn’t exist until a century or two after Uruk’s cuneiform.

What languages they spoke 40,000 years ago, no one knows. And like I said, there were no writing system.

And the other things is that there were no science.

What cladking refused to understand is that there were no science this far back in time. Science is knowledge being explained, but since no writing exist, how could cladking possibly know there were science then?

I don’t know where he (cladking) got this 40,000 years, if he you telling that there were cities, agriculture, science and writings, then he is either lying to you, or he is seriously deluded.
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Jericho is/was about 1300 feet below sea level.
 
cladking

cladking

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sooda said:
he stone boxes and mummies are in the Cairo Museum. Haven't you seen them in your studies?

Most cultures have burial rituals and traditions.. Look at Byblos and Balbek. Does that mean they are unintelligent and superstitious?
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This is very very simple; mummies of ancient Egyptians exist but there is not a single mummy of a great pyramid building era king nor is there evidence there ever was. No evidence exists that a king was ever actually buried in any great pyramid. The Pyramid Texts says these kings were cremated.

"Rituals" (and ceremonies) are in no way indicative of lack of intelligence or superstition. Beliefs and assumptions are superstition itself.
 
cladking

cladking

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sooda said:
Jericho is/was about 1300 feet below sea level.
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As I said; "
cladking said:
I never said, implied, or suggested there were cities 40,000 years ago.

I said the species (Homo Sapiens) that built cities was created 40,000 years ago. Homo Sapiens died out in 2000 BC giving way to Homo Omnisciencis.
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The altitude of no part of Jericho is relevant to this, the thread, Gnostic's point, or reality of Ancient Language speakers.
 
sooda

sooda

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cladking said:
This is very very simple; mummies of ancient Egyptians exist but there is not a single mummy of a great pyramid building era king nor is there evidence there ever was. No evidence exists that a king was ever actually buried in any great pyramid. The Pyramid Texts says these kings were cremated.

"Rituals" (and ceremonies) are in no way indicative of lack of intelligence or superstition. Beliefs and assumptions are superstition itself.
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Are you getting any traction for your scholarship?


List of Egyptian mummies (royalty) - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Egyptian_mummies
56 rows · List of Egyptian mummies (royalty) For a list of Egyptian mummies that aren't royalty, see List of Egyptian mummies (officials, nobles, and commoners). The following is a list of mummies that include Egyptian Pharaohs and their named mummified family members. Some of these mummies have been found to be remarkably intact,...

 
cladking

cladking

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sooda said:
Are you getting any traction for your scholarship?
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Yes and no.

It's mostly "no", of course, but Egyptology sure knows I'm out here. Zahi Hawass Himself once referred to my theory as "other unscientific theories
on the net". I'm sure he wouldn't repeat this error from 2010 and his words would be far less kind today. I believe my constant complaining of the
lack of scientific testing in general and infrared imaging in specific were at least a small part of the reason this century old technology was finally
applied to the Great Pyramid in Oct 2015. The results fully support my theory and show Egyptology is wrong (at least wholly unsupported) so the
results have not been released. More accurately less than .1% of the data have been released and even Peers have been denied access to this critical
information.

This thread is about ancient reality but I've learned a great deal about modern reality over the 13 years I've been studying "Egyptology". I had always
thought everyone and every scientist was primarily interested in the truth and in reality and the human race moved along a path dictated by reality
as discovered by science and the logic which is mathematics. This couldn't be less true. It moves along a path dictated by inertia, superstition, and
the flow of money we know as the status quo. The rioters of the '60's quit rioting not because the world changed to include their ideas but because it
changed the flow of money so they could become a part of the status quo; they're still getting their share and there's no reason to believe the status
quo will ever be in any danger. In a very real way the last 13 years are just prelude to acceptance of the facts I have uncovered. The world will need
to be made safe for a species that is wholly ignorant and less "intelligent" than its own ancestors before any of it can become a part of modern reality.
It seems apparent this is the direction we are headed. The news supports this but the world will have to change one funeral at a time. As the old guard
die off young people are much less resistant to facts and reason when it flies in the face of belief.

Even if I'm proven to be mostly correct I'll still be a crackpot on the net but I'll be a crackpot who just happened to stumble onto the most important
finds of all time. It will completely remake the world and almost every endeavor of man over the next 50 years and for centuries after. If I'm right
the Great Pyramid is a time capsule the information in it could even have profound implications even in the short term.

I believe the changes will be for the best and that the human race "needs" this new perspective to survive the status quo. Our current trajectory is
unsustainable, dangerous, and will lead to mass disease, war, and starvation at best.

Eventually they'll have to release the infrared results or they'll leak out anyway. Eventually with attention turned to the ideas I propose evidence to
support them will be noticed and published. Odds are good I don't have any of this exactly right but the evidence and logic always point to the truth
and it's always easier to see if we are looking in the right place and willing to see it.

Short answer; there's no such thing as "traction" unless you are building on the work of others and I started fresh.
 
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sooda

sooda

Veteran Member
cladking said:
Yes and no.

It's mostly "no", of course, but Egyptology sure knows I'm out here. Zahi Hawass Himself once referred to my theory as "other unscientific theories
on the net". I'm sure he wouldn't repeat this error from 2010 and his words would be far less kind today. I believe my constant complaining of the
lack of scientific testing in general and infrared imaging in specific were at least a small part of the reason this century old technology was finally
applied to the Great Pyramid in Oct 2015. The results fully support my theory and show Egyptology is wrong (at least wholly unsupported) so the
results have not been released. More accurately less than .1% of the data have been released and even Peers have been denied access to this critical
information.

This thread is about ancient reality but I've learned a great deal about modern reality over the 13 years I've been studying "Egyptology". I had always
thought everyone and every scientist was primarily interested in the truth and in reality and the human race moved along a path dictated by reality
as discovered by science and the logic which is mathematics. This couldn't be less true. It moves along a path dictated by inertia, superstition, and
the flow of money we know as the status quo. The rioters of the '60's quit rioting not because the world changed to include their ideas but because it
changed the flow of money so they could become a part of the status quo; they're still getting their share and there's no reason to believe the status
quo will ever be in any danger. In a very real way the last 13 years are just prelude to acceptance of the facts I have uncovered. The world will need
to be made safe for a species that is wholly ignorant and less "intelligent" than its own ancestors before any of it can become a part of modern reality.
It seems apparent this is the direction we are headed. The news supports this but the world will have to change one funeral at a time. As the old guard
die off young people are much less resistant facts and reason when it flies in the face of belief.

Even if I'm proven to be mostly correct I'll still be a crackpot on the net but I'll be a crackpot who just happened to stumble onto the most important
finds of all time. It will completely remake the world and almost every endeavor of man over the next 50 years and for centuries after. If I'm right
the Great Pyramid is a time capsule the information in it could even have profound implications even in the short term.

I believe the changes will be for the best and that the human race "needs" this new perspective to survive the status quo. Our current trajectory is
unsustainable, dangerous, and will lead to mass disease, war, and starvation at best.

Eventually they'll have to release the infrared results or they'll leak out anyway. Eventually with attention turned to the ideas I propose evidence to
support them will be noticed and published. Odds are good I don't have any of this exactly right but the evidence and logic always point to the truth
and it's always easier to see if we are looking in the right place and willing to see it.

Short answer; there's no such thing as "traction" unless you are building on the work of others and I started fresh.
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OK.. so what about all these mummies?
 
cladking

cladking

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sooda said:
OK.. so what about all these mummies?
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They are not kings from the great pyramid building age.

The custom during the great pyramid building age was to CREMATE the kings. Other notable people were mummified. Kings were burned.
 
cladking

cladking

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cladking said:
They are not kings from the great pyramid building age.

The custom during the great pyramid building age was to CREMATE the kings. Other notable people were mummified. Kings were burned.
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Just to be absolutely clear here the last great pyramid (G2) was completed by about 2700 BC. There are no mummies of kings or evidence there
ever were mummies of kings from the date of construction of Djosers Pyramid To Khafre's. There's no evidence any king was ever laid to
rest in any of these pyramids. The Pyramid Texts says the pyramids were not tombs and kings were burned on top of them where they "ascended
to heaven on the smoke of incense". They say the king was "freed from his bandages" by the fire and that the king became the pyramid and a star
which were mnemonics by which he would forever be remembered.

Egyptologists saw what they expected not what was real.
 
tas8831

tas8831

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cladking said:
Zahi Hawass Himself once referred to my theory as "other unscientific theories
on the net".
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Secret Caves under the Pyramids

On 2/21/2013 at 10:21 PM, cladking said:

Dr Hawass specifically referred to "other unscientific theories on the net". This implies he was aware of the theories on the net. Until there is publkic [sic] pressure to do the science that should have been done 50 yearsa [sic] ago it is unlikely anything will chjange.[sic] I am very sensitive to the difficulties in Egypt and wish the people all the best but this has been going on (or not going on) for half a century now. At some point there aren't any more excuses and action is required. I'm also aware the new administration there has barely had time to unpack their bags but this will very soon be their failure as well if they continue not to act.
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This only implies that he may have been aware of some of the theories on the internet. There is no specificity as to what exactly those theories were, nor can it be known that your "theory" was among those he was aware of. Claiming yours, specifically, was known to him is more than a bit misleading.​


Ancient Logbook Documenting Great Pyramid's Construction Unveiled
They refuse to address this theory at all since 2010 when Dr Zahi Hawass referred to it as "other unscientific theories on the net".
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Considering you have no theory and no body of research for anyone to read what exactly would they 'address'? Informally a few Egyptologist have seen you poor collection of false statements and dismiss it as pseudo-intellectual garbage.
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Oh, Google...
 
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cladking

cladking

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tas8831 said:
Ancient Logbook Documenting Great Pyramid's Construction Unveiled

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It hardly seems possible I can win every battle and lose the war. These are the same guys who patiently
explained to me that it was impossible the infrared scan of the pyramid could show anything at all because
it only saw the outside.

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None of them in the quoted link are Egyptologists. One of them is a kid who's going to school to become
an Egyptologist. Are you aware colleges no longer teach critical thinking or even allow dissension? We get
a bunch of cookie cutter automatons.

I do speak to several Egyptologists and expert amateurs. As a rule the amateurs are more knowledgeable
about the pyramids and far more open minded. Don't get me wrong; I'm sure there are numerous open
minded and very knowledgeable Egyptologists but they must tow the party line.

These stones are so hot in the fall and cold in the spring that it's a wonder nobody noticed in 4750 years
but I knew it was there before they applied the century old technology to find it! Oh, and they haven't even
announced that it's cold in the spring yet but I know it is. People today know everything and can't tell the
pyramid has hot and cold spots. I know nothing at all but at least I know this. Even after they take the pic-
ture Egyptology is in denial and everyone pretends it doesn't exist because egyptologists refuse to study it.
 
cladking

cladking

Well-Known Member
tas8831 said:

This only implies that he may have been aware of some of the theories on the internet. There is no specificity as to what exactly those theories were, nor can it be known that your "theory" was among those he was aware of. Claiming yours, specifically, was known to him is more than a bit misleading.​
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The irony here is that Egyptology has no true "theory" and has NEVER systematically applied modern human knowledge, science, and instrumentation
to the pyramids or any of the numerous artefacts ripped out of tombs. Their "theory" of construction consists solely of "they mustta used ramps". Rather
than test hypotheses they assumed the conclusion and said it doesn't matter exactly what savage, ignorant, and primitive means of building great pyra-
mids was used because it was ramps anyway. They are fixated on ramps and can't look for or consider any other possibility even with ramps now debunked.

I can show all the evidence and logic fit my theory and only my theory predicted the hot spot that was found and named in the Pyramid Texts; "Cool is
the Crown Path". My theory explains its name, function, and exactly to what it leads. My theory wasn't constructed on a mountain of et als. It was built
on a mountain of evidence, facts, and logic.

This is remarkably simple. My theory holds that the Great Pyramid is a time capsule built by scientists (men) and metaphysicians (women) of a species
that had no beliefs, using linear funiculars powered by a carbonated aquifer. My theory shows that the Pyramid Texts is a silly little book of ritual that
makes perfect sense and is consistent with physical law where the meaning is right there in the literal meaning of the words. My theory is consistent with
the cultural context.

Egyptologists' beliefs are that the pyramids were tombs dragged up ramps by stinky footed bumpkins. They have no support for this but can quote 1000
greats of the past who agree with them.

Meanwhile the simple fact is that the gravimetric scan shows exactly how the pyramids were built. They were built in five steps and stones were pulled straight
up the sides one step at a time.

I will win this in the long run because the facts and logic agree with me. Not because I'm smart (since I'm not) but because my theory was constructed right
around the evidence and logic instead of 19th century stupidity.

H. D. Bui
 
sooda

sooda

Veteran Member
cladking said:
The irony here is that Egyptology has no true "theory" and has NEVER systematically applied modern human knowledge, science, and instrumentation
to the pyramids or any of the numerous artefacts ripped out of tombs. Their "theory" of construction consists solely of "they mustta used ramps". Rather
than test hypotheses they assumed the conclusion and said it doesn't matter exactly what savage, ignorant, and primitive means of building great pyra-
mids was used because it was ramps anyway. They are fixated on ramps and can't look for or consider any other possibility even with ramps now debunked.

I can show all the evidence and logic fit my theory and only my theory predicted the hot spot that was found and named in the Pyramid Texts; "Cool is
the Crown Path". My theory explains its name, function, and exactly to what it leads. My theory wasn't constructed on a mountain of et als. It was built
on a mountain of evidence, facts, and logic.

This is remarkably simple. My theory holds that the Great Pyramid is a time capsule built by scientists (men) and metaphysicians (women) of a species
that had no beliefs, using linear funiculars powered by a carbonated aquifer. My theory shows that the Pyramid Texts is a silly little book of ritual that
makes perfect sense and is consistent with physical law where the meaning is right there in the literal meaning of the words. My theory is consistent with
the cultural context.

Egyptologists' beliefs are that the pyramids were tombs dragged up ramps by stinky footed bumpkins. They have no support for this but can quote 1000
greats of the past who agree with them.

Meanwhile the simple fact is that the gravimetric scan shows exactly how the pyramids were built. They were built in five steps and stones were pulled straight
up the sides one step at a time.

I will win this in the long run because the facts and logic agree with me. Not because I'm smart (since I'm not) but because my theory was constructed right
around the evidence and logic instead of 19th century stupidity.

H. D. Bui
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You cut an paste this over and over everywhere.
 
cladking

cladking

Well-Known Member
cladking said:
This is remarkably simple. My theory holds that the Great Pyramid is a time capsule built by scientists (men) and metaphysicians (women) of a species
that had no beliefs, using linear funiculars powered by a carbonated aquifer. My theory shows that the Pyramid Texts is a silly little book of ritual that
makes perfect sense and is consistent with physical law where the meaning is right there in the literal meaning of the words. My theory is consistent with
the cultural context.
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Tas8831 said; "Considering you have no theory" so I stated exactly what my theory is so he could challenge it. I did not copy and paste anything. This may not truly be "theory" in terms of modern metaphysics but it certainly makes predictions and explains evidence. It is consistent with known theory, logic, and the real cultural context.
 
cladking

cladking

Well-Known Member
sooda said:
You use stinky footed bumpkin a lot.
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I certainly do.

Modern people are very full of themselves. Most believe animals aren't even conscious, Bible writers were sun addled, and we sit at the crown of creation. Nothing can be further from the truth.

I use the tern "stinky footed bumpkins" because Egyptologists translate the Pyramid Texts to say Egyptians squished their toes in corpse drippings, walked in human feces, and even their goddesses stank to high heaven. Indeed, they believe even horus' eye had an odor!

We couldn't be more wrong about almost everything.
 
sooda

sooda

Veteran Member
cladking said:
Tas8831 said; "Considering you have no theory" so I stated exactly what my theory is so he could challenge it. I did not copy and paste anything. This may not truly be "theory" in terms of modern metaphysics but it certainly makes predictions and explains evidence. It is consistent with known theory, logic, and the real cultural context.
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If you had ever smelled Cairo in the 1950s, you would never forget it.
 
cladking

cladking

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You realize the government now is for rich people, of rich people, and by rich people.

It doesn't matter if we want inferior products and services or not because rich people can afford the best. We have the best government money can buy.

Whether any specific individual can change any of that or is even trying seems open to debate. But I won't in this thread.

Hawass has looked on the net. Every Egypt site has my theory so he didn't miss it. You may not be aware but Hawass used to have his very own site and he used it.
 
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