Trailblazer
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What do you expect from a Baha’i video? But since you did not like that one, how about this video which was not made by the Baha’is, so it is totally unbiased. It is mostly accurate but a couple of small details he got wrong. It goes fast, but it covers a lot of territory.Guess I have to be a bit careful here, so you don't misunderstand me. The video is basically a commercial for Baha'u'llah, it does explain his life, but you are constantly bombarded with how much good comes from this. The reason I say Im a bit careful is to avoid you misunderstanding me, but the way the video is presented and why I see it the way I do, is because it doesn't handle any of the difficult questions and provide no answers to anything. Basically the video follows a pattern like this... 1. Tell a bit about Baha'u'llah and his life 2. Interview random Bahai believers that tells how wonderful everything is because of him. 3. Throw in some quotes from the writings of Baha'u'llah. And it pretty much repeat this pattern all the way.
Bahai: The Chill Religion?
That in it self is not an issue, because you would expect people committed to a religion to praise it as being the best. Also im not against what Baha'u'llah as such is saying about unity, I just don't find it all that special, compared to what other people, which do not proclaim to be a messenger of God have said as well.
Other people can say whatever they want to say but keep in mind the idea of world unity started with Baha’u’llah so they just stole His ideas. Also keep in mind that if there is a God, Bahaullah had the power of God behind His Cause so those who follow Bahaullah have the power of God assisting them. That is the only way unity will ever be successful because nothings human do unaided by God will ever be successful.
Yes it is the God referred to in the OT, but you can bet your bottom dollar that God is not only for the Jews. God is for every one of every religion.Also as I have already mentioned to you before, it is not clear to me which God we are really talking about here. I assume that its the God of the OT, as one of the persons in the video make a comment that God was not only for the Jews.
But besides that, God is just talked about as God, exactly as I imagined it, when I asked you which God it was that Bahai believe in. Because there is no explanations to how these different religious views are to come together or how they fit together, there is just a call for unity, which those in the video obviously agree with and think is good, which I myself agree with, so again nothing wrong with that approach. From the video, I again get the impression that its the word and character of Baha'u'llah that is important to them and God is just whatever floating around.
Baha’is believe that Baha’u’llah was a Manifestation of God so He is as close to God as we can ever get. A Manifestation of God is the tree beyond which there is no passing.
“The “sacred Lote-Tree” is a reference to the Sadratu’l-Muntahá, the “Tree beyond which there is no passing” (see note 128). It is used here symbolically to designate Bahá’u’lláh.” The Kitáb-i-Aqdas. p. 236
It is God we worship but we cannot get close to God or know God’s Will except through a Manifestation of God, and in this age it is Baha’u’llah God wants everyone to go through.
Maybe im being unfair as it is a video about Baha'u'llah or maybe its because, as again its extremely difficult to figure out what God you believe in and that Bahai's might not really be sure either. Which would make sense as you are trying to fit a lot of Gods and natures of Gods into one or maybe its simply unclear to me, which is most likely the case.
There is only one true God, the God revealed by all the Messengers of God.
“Regard thou the one true God as One Who is apart from, and immeasurably exalted above, all created things. The whole universe reflecteth His glory, while He is Himself independent of, and transcendeth His creatures. This is the true meaning of Divine unity. He Who is the Eternal Truth is the one Power Who exerciseth undisputed sovereignty over the world of being, Whose image is reflected in the mirror of the entire creation. All existence is dependent upon Him, and from Him is derived the source of the sustenance of all things. This is what is meant by Divine unity; this is its fundamental principle.”
Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, p. 167
It just so happens that the OT championed monotheism, but Zoroaster also championed monotheism.
All of Baha’u’llah’s Writings tell us about God, but the book I quote from, Gleanings, has excerpts from many different Tablets of Baha’u’llah so you can get a lot of information just from that one book.But have Baha'u'llah written anything specifically about God, like we for instance find in the OT, where we can learn about him and what the ancient Jews believed in?
Older version of BRL:
Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh
Newer version of BRL:
Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh
How did you ever find that video? I agree it sounds and looks a lot like the Baha’i video I posted but the difference is that they have nothing to offer but the Bible and love; they have no plans, nothing that will actually change the world. We have had the gospel message for over 2,000 years and here we are at the precipice. The gospel message has done all it is going to do. All they have is hope based upon what they believe, which is that Jesus is coming back to fix everything that is wrong in the world, but they have been hoping for that since the days of Jesus and still no Jesus. For them, it has to be the same Jesus, but Jesus is not coming back to earth again, He said so (John 17:4, John 17:11).Try to watch this video its only 3.5 minute long and see if it reminds you of the other video, like what the visuals tries to tell you, the message of video etc.?