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Question to muslims in this forum :)

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
There was a question/request to me in one of the other threads in this form that i maybe should learn more about the Quran before i commented, Something i would agree too :) so i am not disappointed that i was asked to learn more about the Quran.

Is there any Muslim in this forum who would guide me in understanding the holy text in the Quran?
 

dfnj

Well-Known Member
There was a question/request to me in one of the other threads in this form that i maybe should learn more about the Quran before i commented, Something i would agree too :) so i am not disappointed that i was asked to learn more about the Quran.

Is there any Muslim in this forum who would guide me in understanding the holy text in the Quran?

Be obedient to the word of God. It's not much different than Christianity or Judaism.
 

leov

Well-Known Member
There was a question/request to me in one of the other threads in this form that i maybe should learn more about the Quran before i commented, Something i would agree too :) so i am not disappointed that i was asked to learn more about the Quran.

Is there any Muslim in this forum who would guide me in understanding the holy text in the Quran?
seek sufi comments.
 

leov

Well-Known Member
Be obedient to the word of God. It's not much different than Christianity or Judaism.
as far as i can undersrand, it took some 200 years to complete Q. The Cow , imo, was original beginning.
 

Wasp

Active Member
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stvdv

Veteran Member: I Share (not Debate) my POV
Is there any Muslim in this forum who would guide me in understanding the holy text in the Quran?
I am not a Muslim

Islam is all about total surrender to God IMHO

You seem to be into meditation. So if you are really interested to understand Islam then you can pray or meditate and Allah might answer/guide you. Better than that you won't get it.

It is said that if you take 1 step towards God, God takes 100 steps towards you.
(If I want to know more about other religion or Buddhism I meditate then maybe read 1 verse and meditate again)
 

stvdv

Veteran Member: I Share (not Debate) my POV
For example if I do not believe in Allah, but I want really know about Islam, then my first step would be "okay Allah, I don't believe in Allah, but if I really want to know then I open up fully and put all prejudice aside and I give Allah idea a chance now", because what use it is to say "I want to learn about Islam if I reject Allah concept?".

But there is 1 verse in Koran telling that Allah gave different paths to different people (I like that verse). So Allah might reveal to you that Buddhism is for you
To every one of you We have appointed a right way and an open road. If God had willed, He would have made you one nation; but that He may try you in what has come to you. So be you forward in good works; unto God shall you return, all together; and He will tell you of that whereon you were at variance.
 
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Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
I am not a Muslim

Islam is all about total surrender to God IMHO

You seem to be into meditation. So if you are really interested to understand Islam then you can pray or meditate and Allah might answer/guide you. Better than that you won't get it.

It is said that if you take 1 step towards God, God takes 100 steps towards you.
(If I want to know more about other religion or Buddhism I meditate then maybe read 1 verse and meditate again)
I do meditate :) and yes often answers do come to mind when meditating.
I am not going to convert to Islam. But I do wish to know and understand Islam in a deeper sense.
Yes i am also understanding just like you that Islam means Surrender to Allah :)
 

stvdv

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I am not going to convert to Islam. But I do wish to know and understand Islam in a deeper sense.
I understood you will not convert to Islam:). Buddhism has plenty for achieving one's goal IMO. I would never suggest someone to change his/her (non) religion.

You know a lot about Buddhism, and meditate a lot, so I think when you read Koran verses automatically you read them on a "deeper level" already.
 
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stvdv

Veteran Member: I Share (not Debate) my POV
Be obedient to the word of God. It's not much different than Christianity or Judaism.
You could have added "My Own" IMHO
From Buddhism I know that they go inside
I got this thought because I saw it next to your Religion
And I like it:)
 
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stvdv

Veteran Member: I Share (not Debate) my POV
Clay Chip Smith -- Parallel Quran
http://www.claychipsmith.com/Parallel_Quran.2004.03.21.pdf

I like this Koran.pdf on my computer. It has 8 versions of each verse. Some versions feel better to me, I relate better to them. A non fanatical Muslim on RF once told me that Rashid Koran was the best Koran in his opinion. And every time I look for correct translation I end up with Rashid Koran. This Koran is most respectful towards non-Muslims in my experience. See below verse (written on the first page of the above .pdf you can download; seeing this verse I knew this is `my Koran`)
Surely, those who believe,
those who are Jewish,
the Christians,
the converts;
anyone who
(1) believes in God, and
(2) believes in the Hereafter, and
(3) leads a righteous life,
will receive their recompense
from their Lord;
they have nothing to fear,
nor will they grieve.
[ 2:62, 5:69 ]

003:007
003:007 Khan It is He Who has sent down to you (Muhammad SAW) the Book (this Qur'an). In it are Verses that are entirely clear, they are the foundations of the Book [and those are the Verses of Al - Ahkam commandments, etc.), Al - Fara'id (obligatory duties) and Al - Hudud (legal laws for the punishment of thieves, adulterers, etc.)]; and others not entirely clear. So as for those in whose hearts there is a deviation (from the truth) they follow that which is not entirely clear thereof, seeking Al - Fitnah (polytheism and trials, etc.), and seeking for its hidden meanings, but none knows its hidden meanings save Allah. And those who are firmly grounded in knowledge say: "We believe in it; the w hole of it (clear and unclear Verses) are from our Lord." And none receive admonition except men of understanding.

003:007 Maulana He it is Who has revealed the Book to thee; some of its verses are decisive -- they are the basis of the Book -- and others a re allegorical. Then those in whose hearts is perversity follow the part of it which is allegorical, seeking to mislead, and seeking to give it (their own) interpretation. And none knows its interpretation save Allah, and those firmly rooted in knowledge. They say: We believe in it, it is all from our Lord. And none mind except men of understanding.

003:007 Pickthal He it is Who hath revealed unto thee (Muhammad) the Scripture wherein are clear revelations - they are the substance of the Book - and others ( which are) allegorical. But those in whose hearts is doubt pursue, forsooth, that which is allegorical seeking (to cause) dissension by seeking to
explain it. None knoweth its explanation save Allah. And those who are of sound instruction say: We believe t herein; the whole is from our Lord; but only men of understanding really heed.

003:007 Rashad He sent down to you this scripture, containing straightforward verses - which constitute the essence of the scripture - as well as multiple - meaning or allegorical verses. Those who harbor doubts in their hearts will pursue the multiple - meaning verses to create confusion, and to extricate a certain meaning. None knows the true meaning thereof except GOD and those well founded in knowledge. They say, "We believe in t his - all of it comes from our Lord." Only those who possess intelligence will take heed.

003:007 Sarwar It is God who has revealed the Book to you in which some verses are clear statements (which accept no interpretation) and these are the fundamental ide as of the Book, while other verses may have several possibilities. Those whose hearts are perverse, follow the unclear statements in pursuit of their own mischievous goals by interpreting them in a way that will suit their own purpose. No one knows its tru e interpretations except God and those who have a firm grounding in knowledge say, "We believe in it. All its verses are from our Lord." No one can grasp this fact except the people of reason.

003:007 Shakir He it is Who has revealed the Book to you; some of its verses are decisive, they are the basis of the Book, and others are allegorical; then as for
those in whose hearts there is perversity they follow the part of it which is allegorical, seeking to mislead and seeking to give it (their own) interpretat ion. but none knows its interpretation except Allah, and those who are firmly rooted in knowledge say: We believe in it, it is all from our Lord; and none do mind except those having understanding. 003:007 Sherali HE it is who has sent down to thee the Boo k; in it there are verses that are firm and decisive in meaning - they are the basis of the Book - and there are others that are susceptible of different interpretations. But those in whose hearts is perversity pursue such thereof as are susceptible of dif ferent interpretations, seeking to cause discord and seeking wrong interpretations of it. And none knows it except ALLAH and those who are firmly grounded in knowledge; they say, `We believe in it; the whole is from our Lord.' - And none take heed except t hose gifted with understanding -

003:007 Yusufali He it is Who has sent down to thee the Book: In it are verses basic or fundamental (of established meaning); they are the foundation of the Book: others are allegorical. But those in whose hearts is pervers ity follow the part thereof that is allegorical, seeking discord, and searching for its hidden meanings, but no one knows its hidden meanings except Allah. And those who are firmly grounded in knowledge say: "We believe in the Book; the whole of it is from our Lord:" and none will grasp the Message except men of understanding.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Be obedient to the word of God. It's not much different than Christianity or Judaism.
I beg to differ. The expectations, particularly regarding the emphasis on the need and/or importance of belief in monotheism and the understanding of rights of family, of apostates (ex-adherents) and of non-Muslims are very different indeed.
 
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