Jesus is Lord in Spirit form? [How this works

The question seems to be, how can Jesus be both, god, and human. Or, if Jesu is human, how can He be god, after the Resurrection. The answer is in the actual persona of Jesus, who Jesus, is, in Spirit Form. Because the 'Spirit of the Lord', is who manifests, in Jesus. Hence after the Resurrection, the Lord is still the Lord, [obviously,
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Now, the human aspect of Jesus, does that make Jesus not god? If it did, then Jesus as manifested Lord, would simply revert to Lordship.

In some traditions, Jesus is 'very human', yet, because the Lord is a Spirit Manifestation,
3 Corinthians [called Apocrypha,
Then there always is a necessary Lordship, in Spirit Form.
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In the asiatic and Nestorian tradition,

The manifestation has this

[Human||g-d]
Configuration both human and g-d aspect in Jesus, though different natures.
By asiatic means configuration of a asiatic church, not necessarily, "asia", generally.

What occurs here, regardless, is that "Jesus" in Spirit Form, is the Lord, also, because the Spirit nature, is the Lord.
[The spirit nature of Jesus the human.

Desert Snake said:

The question seems to be, how can Jesus be both, god, and human. Or, if Jesu is human, how can He be god, after the Resurrection. The answer is in the actual persona of Jesus, who Jesus, is, in Spirit Form.

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Because you gotta show the verses from the Bible as proof that he can be.

I know a guy who said Jesus went to North America after the Resurrection and visited the Indians
Should I take his word for it?


Then another guy comes along and says he says Jesus left his burial blanket behind
Should I even process that?


Then another guy writes a book that Jesus went to India after the resurrection
Should I even think about that?


These people have their alleged testimonies - and these accounts have no foundation in the Bible and could not be found in the Bible.

How does it fair on your attestation that Jesus is God?
Oh wait, some couple of guys held a convention to VOTE if whether Jesus is God or not.



These bishops VOTED [300-2] that Jesus is God
Now should you rest your salvation on these dead bishops?

If they are wrong then these are false teachings, then you believed a lie.
And those who believe a lie - where will they be on Judgement Day?

Do you say that 'Jesus is Lord',

Or Do you not say that 'Jesus is Lord'?

You can answer that question, with one sentence.

Desert Snake said:

The question seems to be, how can Jesus be both, god, and human. Or, if Jesu is human, how can He be god, after the Resurrection. The answer is in the actual persona of Jesus, who Jesus, is, in Spirit Form. Because the 'Spirit of the Lord', is who manifests, in Jesus. Hence after the Resurrection, the Lord is still the Lord, [obviously,
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Now, the human aspect of Jesus, does that make Jesus not god? If it did, then Jesus as manifested Lord, would simply revert to Lordship.

In some traditions, Jesus is 'very human', yet, because the Lord is a Spirit Manifestation,
3 Corinthians [called Apocrypha,
Then there always is a necessary Lordship, in Spirit Form.
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In the asiatic and Nestorian tradition,

The manifestation has this

[Human||g-d]
Configuration both human and g-d aspect in Jesus, though different natures.
By asiatic means configuration of a asiatic church, not necessarily, "asia", generally.

What occurs here, regardless, is that "Jesus" in Spirit Form, is the Lord, also, because the Spirit nature, is the Lord.
[The spirit nature of Jesus the human.

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it is written.....fear not anyone who would harm the flesh
rather you should fear ….He who is able to rend the soul

God and heaven can see how you think and feel
and if they don't like it
They might send Guido to take care of the.....problem

MJFlores said:

Jesus went to India after the resurrection

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I heard He disappeared shortly after that incident
when Mary and Joseph had to seek and find Him
and found Him in the Temple …...talking to the authorities

must of scared the daylights out of them

Matthew 1:20
[Angel of the Lord

Matthew 1:24
[Angel of the Lord

Matthew 2:19
[Angel of the Lord

Matthew 8:2,Lord, (referring to Jesus

Matthew 8:6-8
[Lord, (referring to Jesus

Matthew 11:10
[Jesus sends an angel, (the word in English is "messenger"

Matthew 12:8
[Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath, (the Son of Man

Mark 14:41-42
Mark 14:48-49(scriptures fulfilled

Mark 14:61-62
[Son of Man

Mark 16:9
[Lord Jesus

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Son of Man doesn't mean the Spirit authority is man, it means humanlike. The Spirit hence the 'Lord', what Jesus reverts to, after Resurrection, is the 'Lord', (Jesus in Spirit form.

Desert Snake said:

The question seems to be, how can Jesus be both, god, and human. Or, if Jesu is human, how can He be god, after the Resurrection. The answer is in the actual persona of Jesus, who Jesus, is, in Spirit Form. Because the 'Spirit of the Lord', is who manifests, in Jesus. Hence after the Resurrection, the Lord is still the Lord, [obviously,

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The theory is God created the Universe not out of some need or want. God is perfect and complete. God does not have any needs whatsoever. God is whole, complete, and perfect.

Our Universe was created not of some need by God but from an overflowing or abundance of energy flowing out of God. As a result, the Universe and us in it were created with imperfections. These imperfections are the source of all that is evil in the World. Since God is perfect, complete, and whole then God is pure love. Since God has no desires then God is pure Good and not evil because God has no desires which are the root of evil.

Jesus was the son of God in the sense Jesus achieved a particular state of holiness where he no longer was evil. Jesus was complete, whole, and perfect like God. Even though Jesus was a man with all the limitations of man, he expressed a level of holiness and sacredness that was as if God were present on Earth.

Lord is not my favorite word to used in this context. I prefer to think of our Lord more as a benevolent steward and caretaker than some over-Lord. For me, the word Lord is too close to a particular type of government called monarchy. I tend to think monarchy is not the divine form of government and our omnipotent God is a wee bit more egalitarian in his rule. Generally, from everything I've read, kings and lords are among the most needy and evil people among us.

Desert Snake said:

Matthew 1:20
[Angel of the Lord

Matthew 1:24
[Angel of the Lord

Matthew 2:19
[Angel of the Lord

Matthew 8:2,Lord, (referring to Jesus

Matthew 8:6-8
[Lord, (referring to Jesus

Matthew 11:10
[Jesus sends an angel, (the word in English is "messenger"

Matthew 12:8
[Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath, (the Son of Man

Mark 14:41-42
Mark 14:48-49(scriptures fulfilled

Mark 14:61-62
[Son of Man

Mark 16:9
[Lord Jesus

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Sometimes I think Christianity is NOT a religion. People mindlessly quote scripture like little idols. I think most Christians practice religion like the way people root for their favorite NFL football team. It's all about fandom and loyalty to your team.

Desert Snake said:

Son of Man doesn't mean the Spirit authority is man, it means humanlike. The Spirit hence the 'Lord', what Jesus reverts to, after Resurrection, is the 'Lord', (Jesus in Spirit form.

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I've always wondered if Jesus were God, and he was resurrected after he was killed, since you can't kill a God, then no harm no foul!!! In other words, Jesus did NOT die for our sins because he was never really permanently killed. Let your brain chew on that one for a while.

I don't think you Christians and run of the mill theists understand how hard it is for smart people to follow your logic sometimes. It's alright. The way to get respect is to give respect. Please forgive me if I am not always reverent to what it is you hold most precious. I am trying but it's hard.

Oh yeah, one more thought. I don't know why these kinds of thoughts haunt me. Can God have a thought so complex that even She can't understand it? I figure a rock is for males and brains are for women.

Desert Snake said:

Do you say that 'Jesus is Lord',

Or Do you not say that 'Jesus is Lord'?

You can answer that question, with one sentence.

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Why do I say LORD Jesus Christ?

It is because the Bible says:

Acts 2:36 New King James Version (NKJV)
“Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly that God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ.”

The Lord God made "this Jesus" Lord. Now who the heck said that? It was apostle Peter, after receiving the gift of the Holy Spirit. Jesus is Lord because God made him Lord. Hence Jesus Christ is not God. My Jesus is a very special man and that man is Lord and Christ because God made him to be.

Then you need to read the Bible again, as the Lord, is called 'God'.

'Spirit of the Lord', is a different lord?

hope not, because there is only one Lord, as noted many times in Scripture.

So, they made a mistake, and called Jesus the wrong name and title?
that's pretty weird, since that name and title is used throughout Scripture
2 Corinthians 6:18
'Lord Almighty', same word, used, as it is the same word used, elsewhere.

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So, that is a mistake, or referring to another lord? How would you know 'which Lord', it's referring to, since it's the same word? Some other deity? How many Lords do Believers have, religiously?

One, is what the Bible says.

1 Corinthians 8:6
[One Lord, Jesus Christ

2 Corinthians 6:18
['Lord Almighty'

is 1 corinthians contradicting 2 corinthians

Desert Snake said:

Do you say that 'Jesus is Lord',

Or Do you not say that 'Jesus is Lord'?

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Desert Snake said:

Then you need to read the Bible again, as the Lord, is called 'God'.

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Romans 10:9 New International Version (NIV)
If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

Jesus is really Lord but you know what?
God raised Jesus from the dead
And that is reading from the Bible again.

The problem with people who do not know the Bible is they don't have the Holy Spirit to guide them.
So they could not see every word in the Bible and they could not see the truth
Because they want to say what they feel like saying.

So Mr. Desert Snake do you know of any bible verse do you know that prove that those who are Lords are Gods or Jesus is God?


In Great Britain, there are Lords, does that mean they are Gods too?


UK House of Lords

Members of the House of Lords - Wikipedia

These are British Lords, but they are not Gods.

Desert Snake said:

1 Corinthians 8:6
[One Lord, Jesus Christ

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One of the techniques of false teachers is NOT SHOWING the entire verse
so they could get away with half truths.

1 Corinthians 8:6 New International Version (NIV)
yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live.

This is the belief of the first Christians and the true Christians today.
The verse identifies the ONE GOD as the Father
and it identifies the ONE LORD, Jesus Christ

Now how did the Lord Jesus Christ became LORD?
As I have mentioned a while ago
Somebody made Jesus as Lord and who do you think made him Lord?
From the Bible not from opinions of deceiving men.

Acts 2:36 New King James Version (NKJV)
“Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly that God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ.”

So, without the Lord God, Jesus won't be Lord and Christ because God has made this Jesus, Lord and Christ.

Now do you see?

Desert Snake said:

2 Corinthians 6:18
['Lord Almighty'

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You can find the answer somewhere on page 64.
Wouldn't you be bewildered how a teacher would have that kind of method of instruction.
You would wonder if he is just kidding you or just trying to be smart.
Because when a person is honest, he would be transparent and show the entire innards of the verse
But its really a shame people want to deceive, so without further adieu

2 Corinthians 6:18 New International Version (NIV)
And,

“I will be a Father to you,
and you will be my sons and daughters,
says the Lord Almighty.”

It is the Lord Almighty God who said that
Not the Lord Jesus Christ who is the Son.
That fact is uncovered when one reveals several verses up

2 Corinthians 6:16-18 New International Version (NIV)
What agreement is there between the temple of God and idols? For we are the temple of the living God. As God has said:

“I will live with them
and walk among them,
and I will be their God,
and they will be my people.”

Therefore,

“Come out from them
and be separate,
says the Lord.
Touch no unclean thing,
and I will receive you.”

And,

“I will be a Father to you,
and you will be my sons and daughters,
says the Lord Almighty.”

Now do you see everything?

Desert Snake said:

____nonsense.

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Desert Snake said:

I dont give a ____, ___ what your opinion is.

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Cant even intelligently respond to @dfnj

You didn't know that 'the Lord', is called 'God', in the Bible.

Desert Snake said:

You didn't know that 'the Lord', is called 'God', in the Bible.

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God is Lord and He is Lord since eternity.
God is Lord and no one made him one because it is inherent in God



And the Lord Jesus Christ repeats what is written in Deut 6:4

Mark 12:28-30 New International Version (NIV)
One of the teachers of the law came and heard them debating. Noticing that Jesus had given them a good answer, he asked him, “Of all the commandments, which is the most important?”

“The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one. Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’

What is a LORD? How do you define it?



noun
noun: lord; plural noun: lords
someone or something having power, authority, or influence; a master or ruler.
"lord of the sea"
synonyms: master, lord and master, ruler, leader, chief, superior, monarch, sovereign, king, emperor, prince, governor, commander, captain, overlord, suzerain, baron, potentate, liege, liege lord
"leave it to us, my lord"

Do you think that if one is Lord?
The person is automatically God?
I'm sorry, that is so wrong.
In the UNITED KINGDOM there are lords [knighted by the Queen] and forms part of UK politics.
ARE THEY GODS?




I'm sorry these lords are not Gods
Being a Lord is a position, being God is another thing
Being God means not being a man
FROM THE SCRIPTURES - man!

Hosea 11:9 New International Version (NIV)
I will not carry out my fierce anger,
nor will I devastate Ephraim again.
For I am God, and not a man—
the Holy One among you.
I will not come against their cities.

What does the Bible say? God said "I am God, and not a man"
Now if you say that God became man, you just called God a liar.



God never wanted to be a man and transforming himself into a man
breaks what he said and that would be a lie. And God never lies, but man lies at will.
God also never wanted a man to be God and God also intended that man would never be God
This is what the Bible says - so read carefully.

Ezekiel 28:2 New King James Version (NKJV)
“Son of man, say to the prince of Tyre, ‘Thus says the Lord God:

“Because your heart is lifted up,
And you say, ‘I am a god,
I sit in the seat of gods,
In the midst of the seas,’
Yet you are a man, and not a god,
Though you set your heart as the heart of a god

If man becomes a God then what God said isn't true
BUT God is always true so when man says a man can be God then the man lies.

So God cannot be man and Man cannot be God
Unless your God is not written in the Bible - maybe try some other book?
and your Jesus is not written in the gospel - maybe its a different Jesus?

That's all very entertaining, however you are going to have to explain all the verses, that say 'there is only one Lord'.

Do you seriously want a list of those verses? The Christians in the Bible, literally say they only have one Lord, and 'Jesus', is called Lord, not in the manner that 'there are many lords', theory you are presenting.

So, your argument just contradicts the Bible, and literally contradicts the 'word correlates' used in the Bible.
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Your argument right now, is going to have to say, that the new testament, is all made up, or something, your argument just doesn't work.

Desert Snake said:

That's all very entertaining, however you are going to have to explain all the verses, that say 'there is only one Lord'.

Do you seriously want a list of those verses? The Christians in the Bible, literally say they only have one Lord, and 'Jesus', is called Lord, not in the manner that 'there are many lords', theory you are presenting.

So, your argument just contradicts the Bible, and literally contradicts the 'word correlates' used in the Bible.
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Your argument right now, is going to have to say, that the new testament, is all made up, or something, your argument just doesn't work.

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My God and my Lord Jesus Christ are written in the Bible.
Your God and your Jesus aren't. They are totally different from my God and my Lord Jesus.
That is why we differ.

Now the Christian Bible says this:

Romans 10:9 New International Version (NIV)
If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.



So the genuinely true Christian Bible says Jesus is Lord and it adds
God raised Lord Jesus from the dead

And your unbiblical version of Jesus is nobody raised him from the dead
Because your Jesus lied and he was God all along?



2 Corinthians 11:3-4 Christian Standard Bible (CSB)
But I fear that, as the serpent deceived Eve by his cunning, your minds may be seduced from a sincere and pure devotion to Christ. For if a person comes and preaches another Jesus, whom we did not preach, or you receive a different spirit, which you had not received, or a different gospel, which you had not accepted, you put up with it splendidly!



That is why you could not lift a bible verse from the Bible because your Jesus could not be found in the scriptures but only found in the figment of your imagination.

Jesus is Lord alright but he is not God
and I believe in my heart that God raised my Lord Jesus from the dead
Thus I will be saved on the last day
And I cannot tell you and the others are
because you do not believe that God raised him from the dead

MJFlores said:

My God and my Lord Jesus Christ are written in the Bible.
Your God and your Jesus aren't. They are totally different from my God and my Lord Jesus.
That is why we differ.

Now the Christian Bible says this:

Romans 10:9 New International Version (NIV)
If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

So the genuinely true Christian Bible says Jesus is Lord and it adds
God raised Lord Jesus from the dead

And your unbiblical version of Jesus is nobody raised him from the dead
Because your Jesus lied and he was God all along?

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2 Corinthians 11:3-4 Christian Standard Bible (CSB)
But I fear that, as the serpent deceived Eve by his cunning, your minds may be seduced from a sincere and pure devotion to Christ. For if a person comes and preaches another Jesus, whom we did not preach, or you receive a different spirit, which you had not received, or a different gospel, which you had not accepted, you put up with it splendidly!

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That is why you could not lift a bible verse from the Bible because your Jesus could not be found in the scriptures but only found in the figment of your imagination.

Jesus is Lord alright but he is not God
and I believe in my heart that God raised my Lord Jesus from the dead
Thus I will be saved on the last day
And I cannot tell you and the others are
because you do not believe that God raised him from the dead

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Sure. Selective reading, much....