Why jesus curse and stop the fig then he can't stop the devil sabotage activity

MJFlores said:

Other translations - does it support your interpretation:


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1 Corinthians 15:28 Amplified Bible, Classic Edition (AMPC)
However, when everything is subjected to Him, then the Son Himself will also subject Himself to [the Father] Who put all things under Him, so that God may be all in all [be everything to everyone, supreme, the indwelling and controlling factor of life].

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1 Corinthians 15:28 Contemporary English Version (CEV)
After everything is under the power of God’s Son, he will put himself under the power of God, who put everything under his Son’s power. Then God will mean everything to everyone.

1 Corinthians 15:28 Expanded Bible (EXB)
After everything has been ·put under [subjected to] the Son, then he will ·put himself under [be subjected to] ·God [L the One…], who had put all things under him. ·Then [or …so that] God will be ·the complete ruler over everything [or supreme in every place and in every way; L all in all].

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1 Corinthians 15:28 Good News Translation (GNT)
But when all things have been placed under Christ's rule, then he himself, the Son, will place himself under God, who placed all things under him; and God will rule completely over all.

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1 Corinthians 15:28 Names of God Bible (NOG)
But when God puts everything under Christ’s authority, the Son will put himself under God’s authority, since God had put everything under the Son’s authority. Then God will be in control of everything.

Your interpretation on this particular verse was:
"the son here it is talking about man and his descendants???"

I did not need to make a comment on this -
often it is enough for people to read
to know what is true and what is a lie.

That is why people who want to twist the truth - wouldn't want to show what is in the Bible
so they could push their own personal interpretations
And in the end, would would happen to them?



was written by Apostle Paul and there was a message of Apostle Peter regarding people who tried to distort Apostle Paul's writings and this is recorded in:

2 Peter 3:15-16 New International Version (NIV)
Bear in mind that our Lord’s patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.

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It is hard to have a reasonable debate with you because of all the goofy videos you put in your posts. They muddy the discussion. Maybe that is what you want, since it is difficult for you to answer the questions in a straight forward manner. Maybe that helps you keep people from seeing how weak your replies are. Anyway I am thru unless you eliminate all the clutter.

TrueBeliever37 said:

It is hard to have a reasonable debate with you because of all the goofy videos you put in your posts. They muddy the discussion. Maybe that is what you want, since it is difficult for you to answer the questions in a straight forward manner. Maybe that helps you keep people from seeing how weak your replies are. Anyway I am thru unless you eliminate all the clutter.

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I think it is just your flimsy excuse.

So far in other threads, those who are espousing the Trinity and you Oneness
have realized that their very own Bible is speaking against them.
What can you do in the face of the TRUTH?
People could either continue blindly follow a lie or accept it.
If they accept it then most probably they would seek to be IN Christ later on

We people do not want to be enemies of Christ, am I right?
Hence we should try to know the true knowledge of Christ
If not, then people will be where the devil is going.
I am not in competition with anybody - you or the others
I am just sharing what I know - that knowledge that is shared by at least 10 million people on this planet
People who are going to be saved because they don't want to be enemies of Christ.
And accepted the truth.



2 John 7 Good News Translation (GNT)
Many deceivers have gone out over the world, people who do not acknowledge that Jesus Christ came as a human being. Such a person is a deceiver and the Enemy of Christ.

The question is do you fall into this category?
Do you want to remain in this category?

j1i said:

I hope everyone will forgive me for my weakness in misunderstanding

We know Satan is doing much more dangerous things than fig tree

I think Jesus does not have the power to stop devil

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The devil has limited free reign until he and his demons are cast into the Lake of Fire in Revelation.

Spartan said:

The devil has limited free reign until he and his demons are cast into the Lake of Fire in Revelation.

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MJFlores said:

I think it is just your flimsy excuse.

So far in other threads, those who are espousing the Trinity and you Oneness
have realized that their very own Bible is speaking against them.
What can you do in the face of the TRUTH?
People could either continue blindly follow a lie or accept it.
If they accept it then most probably they would seek to be IN Christ later on

We people do not want to be enemies of Christ, am I right?
Hence we should try to know the true knowledge of Christ
If not, then people will be where the devil is going.
I am not in competition with anybody - you or the others
I am just sharing what I know - that knowledge that is shared by at least 10 million people on this planet
People who are going to be saved because they don't want to be enemies of Christ.
And accepted the truth.

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2 John 7 Good News Translation (GNT)
Many deceivers have gone out over the world, people who do not acknowledge that Jesus Christ came as a human being. Such a person is a deceiver and the Enemy of Christ.

The question is do you fall into this category?
Do you want to remain in this category?

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TrueBeliever37 said:

It is hard to have a reasonable debate with you because of all the goofy videos you put in your posts. They muddy the discussion. Maybe that is what you want, since it is difficult for you to answer the questions in a straight forward manner. Maybe that helps you keep people from seeing how weak your replies are. Anyway I am thru unless you eliminate all the clutter.

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KenS said:

The answer to your OP. The Father hasn't stopped Satan or the devil so Jesus wouldn't either. Has nothing to do whether he was God.

So your conclusion would be wrong.

If your position is that Jesus isn't God because he didn't stop Satan/devil -- then God isn't God because He hasn't stopped him either.

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I apologize for the late reply
Now I will read the responses
With sincere respect and appreciation
Sorry if I forgot to attach my response to others

sojourner said:

Ergo: Jesus Christ is not the Father. .

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sooda said:

I am not sure I understand .

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TrueBeliever37 said:

W

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leov said:

W

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KenS said:

The answer to your OP..

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TrueBeliever37 said:

ye.

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Thank you very much for your wonderful posts and quiet dialogue
I appreciate your effort you gave me

Impose a controversy or an example
I do not believe in the Holy Books and I am not good at reading

I believe that the Bible for Jews, Christians, Buddhists and Muslims is a human book and a human word

Because there is no evidence that they wrote heavenly

When we talk to others to believe, we come with quotations from the Scriptures
I neither read nor believe that these books are from heaven and they are not from the Word of God

How will you convince me of the Trinity or faith in God in general?

Lo notes that Christianity is based in persuading only the Trinity of Scripture
I do not want to believe in this book because I can prove that there are radical changes in terms between old and new versions of Christian confession.
I do not want to read a book that has been amended for example

John 4:24 New King James Version (NKJV)
God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.”
the correct version (with truth) in old version

Is it possible to find evidence of the Trinity from a vital source other than the Bible

For example, I'll give you an example
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In the end my friends do not be sad
The mercy of God is great and he knows the sincerity of our feelings and your feelings
We are brothers in humanity. We must not push our differences into hatred, revenge or racism
We coexist until the truth emerges and the mistake apologizes who is right

God bless you and thank you

i love you all

j1i said:

I believe that the Bible for Jews, Christians, Buddhists and Muslims is a human book and a human word

Because there is no evidence that they wrote heavenly

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I believe that too.

j1i said:

How will you convince me of the Trinity or faith in God in general?

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It's not my job to convince you. It is my job to open you to the possibility of finding your truth.

j1i said:

I do not want to read a book that has been amended for example

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All great literary works are amended.

j1i said:

Is it possible to find evidence of the Trinity from a vital source other than the Bible

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I believe so. The Trinity is God-expressed-as-community. God lives within the spaces between us. Being in right relationship with others and with the world is, perhaps, the greatest illustration of God-expressed-as-community.

j1i said:

I apologize for the late reply
Now I will read the responses
With sincere respect and appreciation
Sorry if I forgot to attach my response to others

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No problem. Thank you for your kind responses.

j1i said:

When we talk to others to believe, we come with quotations from the Scriptures
I neither read nor believe that these books are from heaven and they are not from the Word of God

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Ok... Certainly it is up to the individual to decide what is from God and what isn't. But if you don't believe any books are from God... how do you decide what is truth and what is from God?

j1i said:

How will you convince me of the Trinity or faith in God in general?

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I'm not trying to convince you. I simply answer questions if you are sincerely searching.

Whether you believe God is a trinity or not, is a process of thought and you decide yourself.. Whether you believe you are a spirit, have a soul and live in a body as a triune being is a process of thought and you decide yourself.

The Gospel for Christian is simply... everyone has sinned. (I don't try to convince people of that--you either believe you have or haven't)

My position is that God wants communion with His creation but sin causes separation (much like darkness and light can't mix together-I don't try to convince people of that--you either believe it or you don't). It would be like a habitual murderer trying to fit in someone who loves his brother as himself.

If you believe the first two... then the question is "How do I get rid of sin".

For the atheist, there is no God and therefore there is no eternal consequence for any sin. (Sin is inconsequential to eternity because there is none)
For the Buddhist, sin is not an issue, it is basically one person eliminating all earthly desires, follow the eightfold path until they become enlightened.
For the Hindu, you are basically born again and again and again because of Karma until you are perfected and sin is no more.

(These might be simplistic and may be more complicated but basically will hold true)

There are many others but in all these cases, man has the capacity to deal with sin.

For Christianity, man cannot deal with sin so God dealt with sin through Jesus Christ and His suffering and resurrection.

So... how do you deal with sin issue? Is it non-existent? Do you solve it? Does God solve it? How does he solve it? And who do you know what you believe is true?

j1i said:

Thank you very much for your wonderful posts and quiet dialogue
I appreciate your effort you gave me

Impose a controversy or an example
I do not believe in the Holy Books and I am not good at reading

I believe that the Bible for Jews, Christians, Buddhists and Muslims is a human book and a human word

Because there is no evidence that they wrote heavenly

When we talk to others to believe, we come with quotations from the Scriptures
I neither read nor believe that these books are from heaven and they are not from the Word of God

How will you convince me of the Trinity or faith in God in general?

Lo notes that Christianity is based in persuading only the Trinity of Scripture
I do not want to believe in this book because I can prove that there are radical changes in terms between old and new versions of Christian confession.
I do not want to read a book that has been amended for example

John 4:24 New King James Version (NKJV)
God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.”
the correct version (with truth) in old version

Is it possible to find evidence of the Trinity from a vital source other than the Bible

For example, I'll give you an example
Imgur

In the end my friends do not be sad
The mercy of God is great and he knows the sincerity of our feelings and your feelings
We are brothers in humanity. We must not push our differences into hatred, revenge or racism
We coexist until the truth emerges and the mistake apologizes who is right

God bless you and thank you

i love you all

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Sorry for “w” post, that was my phone posted. But about fig tree, if you understand what fig tree means in Jn1 you understand the curse.

sojourner said:

I believe that too.


It's not my job to convince you. It is my job to open you to the possibility of finding your truth.


All great literary works are amended.


I believe so. The Trinity is God-expressed-as-community. God lives within the spaces between us. Being in right relationship with others and with the world is, perhaps, the greatest illustration of God-expressed-as-community.

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leov said:

Sorry for “w” post, that was my phone posted. But about fig tree, if you understand what fig tree means in Jn1 you understand the curse.

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KenS said:

No problem. Thank you for your kind responses.

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I want to tell the truth
Which is that I believe in heavenly books
But I think a lot has been misinterpreted or there have been mistakes during the translation
I believe in the Torah and, Bible, gospel and the Koran ....
I believe in Jesus as a prophet as well as Moses and the prophets of the children of Israel

Misinterpretations in understanding the truth are what causes others to question and leave true faith

I love Jesus very much and I believe in Him but as a prophet

I want to say this so as not to grieve my brothers who I love very much and they are Christians

i love you
take care
god bless all of us
amen

j1i said:

I think Jesus does not have the power to stop devil

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You can't stop the main reason for the book to be published. That's why most horror movie monsters never truly die. Further ticket sales MUST continue. God supposedly "fixed" things with the Flood and accepted who we were. Completely undone in the next story. Jesus supposedly "fixed" things with his death. Completely undone by the next story. So on and so forth.

Kelly of the Phoenix said:

You can't stop the main reason for the book to be published. That's why most horror movie monsters never truly die. Further ticket sales MUST continue. God supposedly "fixed" things with the Flood and accepted who we were. Completely undone in the next story. Jesus supposedly "fixed" things with his death. Completely undone by the next story. So on and so forth.

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thanks for sharing dude this is kind of you