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Should RF Keep its Political Forums?

Should RF keep it's political forums?


  • Total voters
    53
  • Poll closed .

Kangaroo Feathers

Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
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That's a cool poster
 

TransmutingSoul

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Given the amount of animosity, anger, gratuitous anger, and other negative emotions and behavior associated with RF's political forums, do you think RF would be a better place without political forums? What say you?

The politics of man has always been a detriment to Faith.

Regards Tony
 

Mindmaster

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
I see 2 ways to view the question....
1) Eliminate political discussion - bad idea.
2) Eliminate separate forums for political discussion - possible.

Just to be safe, I voted "Yes"...keep the political forums.

I voted yes mostly because I think such a move would make the forums implode. But, let me clarify: There are few areas of the forum where people of differing beliefs can regularly communicate. If you can't deal with the adversity of opinion in those areas of the forum you can just refuse to click the post links and it's like it didn't even happen. :D

Does it make more work for the mod staff? Probably... Does it make the forum more interesting? Certainly. But, all of this is "opt-in" -- I mean if the conversations are too heated for you or too US focused or whatever you can just stop reading them. I'd prefer that to be encouraged rather than a removal of the medium of communication.
 

crossfire

LHP Mercuræn Feminist Heretic ☿
Premium Member
That is easily the dumbest manifestation of petit bourgeois avoidance that I've seen all day1
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... yes, I understand that it's only 10:43 AM. So what?​
Good to see you back around, Jayhawker Soule! :)
So what do you think of the Political Forums?
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
Given the amount of animosity, anger, gratuitous anger, and other negative emotions and behavior associated with RF's political forums, do you think RF would be a better place without political forums? What say you?
I can't see that political discussion is less important, less integral, than discussion about other forms of belief. Nor do I really think that they can be easily separated.

What might be nicer is having members learn how to actually debate, and keep their tempers, which have no legitimate place in a true debate, at a mild simmer. Keeping one's focus on the subject matter being debated, and clothing your disagreements with factual argument is a great place to start. If I don't like some President, or some Prime Minister, or some candidate, or some policy, here or elsewhere, national or international, then I should at least be able to articulate the reasons for my dislike. If I just dislike them for purely emotional reasons, it might be wise of me to actually look a little further, since the likelihood of my being stupidly wrong is quite large. And what better way to do that than to listen to the reasons others disagree with me.
 

Guitar's Cry

Disciple of Pan
This may have been mentioned already but I can't check through 50 more messages...but what about making it a Private forum?
 

Guitar's Cry

Disciple of Pan
What might be nicer is having members learn how to actually debate, and keep their tempers, which have no legitimate place in a true debate, at a mild simmer. Keeping one's focus on the subject matter being debated, and clothing your disagreements with factual argument is a great place to start.

That would be awesome and amazing, but since we can't get politicians to do this...
 

Curious George

Veteran Member
Discuss them all if you choose. I am prepared to rebut most, as I am sure my friend Salvador is.

BUT, lets not concentrate on words, they are a dime a dozen, and mean little.

Actions are tangible and reflect what is actually occurring.

Have at it if you choose.
How are you going to rebut something without a stated position? That is just silly.

Let's work through my post together! If one wants to discuss abortion, whether they are pro or anti abortion, their opinions are likely formed because of the underlying philosophical beliefs.

My point here is that you cannot so easily remove politics religion and philosophy.
 

Dawnofhope

Non-Proselytizing Baha'i
Staff member
Premium Member
Given the amount of animosity, anger, gratuitous anger, and other negative emotions and behavior associated with RF's political forums, do you think RF would be a better place without political forums? What say you?
I voted yes even though I rarely if ever participate. Politics and religion are often interwoven. I agree the forums are often negative but severely curtailing freedom of speech seems heavy handed and we all know where that leads.
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
WE discuss in North American politics what is pertinent to us. Last time I checked, Britain wasn´t in North America.
Many Europeans, and dare I say it, Canadians ( though not American, they are North American) decide to join the fun, so be it.
There are numerous forums where others should feel quite at home.

Just watch that clicker and you will be just fine.,
I pay attention to politics from all around the world, some more closely than others, obviously. But it's getting to be such a small planet, I think it's not a bad idea to have a general idea about what's going on, as there is always a potential for impacts even where the connection isn't immediately obvious.
 

Cooky

Veteran Member
I like to think there are enough non-trolls, non criminals, and people of differing opinions willing to politely discuss them with evidence and reason that the forum would survive. Frankly, I believe the 6 or 7 worst offenders probably keep several times that number from actively participating, so there would be a net benefit to airlocking them.

Edit: And if those 6 or 7 are all that's keeping the forum afloat, the thing deserves a bullet anyway.

Who decides on who this 6 or 7 are though, and what "worst" entails?

...I can't think of anyone, really, that fits the description of someone worthy of being airlocked.

<EDIT> (unless it's me and anyone like me. Then I could see how I would be oblivious to this "6 or 7".)
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
Get rid of all the main events, the attention grabbing topics, and you're going end up with a very dull and boring place like those sites with a posting or two appearing every few months if even that many.
And yet we used to have an active and civilized member base without the political animosity. Discussing politics is fine. Making everything a few people do that make headlines into a thread is absurd.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
I pay attention to politics from all around the world, some more closely than others, obviously. But it's getting to be such a small planet, I think it's not a bad idea to have a general idea about what's going on, as there is always a potential for impacts even where the connection isn't immediately obvious.
Unfortunately, of most Americans a good chunk of them won't understand what you said and the other chunk will refuse to believe things can possibly be related to and effect and influence each other in such ways.
 
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