Any evidence of this?
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Why does God care about some mammal species floating around in the middle of nowhere?
- Thread starter Jos
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Exactly humans do look a lot like monkeys and I guess so must God.
So how would determine if any of them is true? Do you believe all of them are true?
nPeace
Veteran Member
Let's see.... I'm guessing...
1. The creator, if he exist, has not done a good job with..
a) revealing himself (there is much confusion in religion, and their "holy" books)
b) doing good (the world is a mess. People, including children suffer needlessly)
The multitude just got very tiny (I drew a blank
). How did I do?
True. Many are misled, even by corrupt ministers (2 Corinthians 11:14, 15), but many have been freed, because they sincerely sought out truth (Matthew 5:6). So there is bad news, and good. Sincere ones are not forever duped. (Jude 22, 23)
I'll put it together for you, hopefully by Monday.
I know. It's still a train though. Many board it.
They are, in my view.
I'll be interested in seeing what your list looks like though. The "multitude" thing got me curious.
stvdv
Veteran Member: I Share (not Debate) my POV
Hello Jos,
You asked to simplify it (I tried my best)
It became lengthy, but I think simple (just more reading time)
Why does God care about some mammal species floating around in the middle of nowhere?
I got the feeling that you had the feeling that God does not care (also because of your "what exactly does it mean anyway" below)
But I can be totally wrong, and that you were very eager to know "why does God care"
If that is the case, then my answer is totally inappropriate due to false interpretation of your above line
If that is not the case, then I hope I can clarify what I meant, and that it makes sense
And then I explained what I think this means
*): Rereading this, I see that the last line can be deleted; not part of your question (so strike-through)
*) We all know that many humans can't be trusted, and that many humans don't care (about others) [of course there are plenty exceptions]
*) Now, the Bible says "God made them in His own image". This I interpreted that God and Humans have same characteristics
So "Humans can't be trusted", means "God can't be trusted"
So "Humans don't care", means "God does not care"
Your initial question was: Why does God care about some mammal species floating around in the middle of nowhere?
My conclusion was: God does not care (proven by the Bible claiming "God made humans in His own image" and knowing that Humans can't be trusted)
If your goal was to know "why does God care"
I have to disappoint you, I think "God does not care", if Bible is correct stating "God made human in His own image"
Personally I do not believe that God is a human, with human feelings
So, in that way, I also do not believe that God has this "caring feeling" as we humans experience
But I do not say "God does not care", because I know nothing about God
It's is just IMHO (I realize now more than ever, I better not even answer this type of questions anymore)
Personally I think the meaning of "God made human in His own image" has a complete different meaning
But I could not use that meaning, because then I would never come to your question "Why does God care about some mammal species .."
Disclaimer:
All the above is just my personal interpretation I had today.
If they present another Bible verse tomorrow, I might come up with "God does care", of course adding IMHO
You asked to simplify it (I tried my best)
It became lengthy, but I think simple (just more reading time)
Why does God care about some mammal species floating around in the middle of nowhere?
I got the feeling that you had the feeling that God does not care (also because of your "what exactly does it mean anyway" below)
But I can be totally wrong, and that you were very eager to know "why does God care"
If that is the case, then my answer is totally inappropriate due to false interpretation of your above line
If that is not the case, then I hope I can clarify what I meant, and that it makes sense
I thought it means: God made humans in His own image
I got the feeling you were not too happy with 74x12 his answer
And then I explained what I think this means
*): Rereading this, I see "should" is the wrong word. Better would be "could"
*): Rereading this, I see that the last line can be deleted; not part of your question (so strike-through)
*) We all know that many humans can't be trusted, and that many humans don't care (about others) [of course there are plenty exceptions]
*) Now, the Bible says "God made them in His own image". This I interpreted that God and Humans have same characteristics
So "Humans can't be trusted", means "God can't be trusted"
So "Humans don't care", means "God does not care"
Your initial question was: Why does God care about some mammal species floating around in the middle of nowhere?
My conclusion was: God does not care (proven by the Bible claiming "God made humans in His own image" and knowing that Humans can't be trusted)
If your goal was to know "why does God care"
I have to disappoint you, I think "God does not care", if Bible is correct stating "God made human in His own image"
Personally I do not believe that God is a human, with human feelings
So, in that way, I also do not believe that God has this "caring feeling" as we humans experience
But I do not say "God does not care", because I know nothing about God
It's is just IMHO (I realize now more than ever, I better not even answer this type of questions anymore)
Personally I think the meaning of "God made human in His own image" has a complete different meaning
But I could not use that meaning, because then I would never come to your question "Why does God care about some mammal species .."
Disclaimer:
All the above is just my personal interpretation I had today.
If they present another Bible verse tomorrow, I might come up with "God does care", of course adding IMHO
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That's actually pretty accurate, you did good and I would add too that he makes humans out to be too much like animals rather than anything special, allowing Satan and other evil creatures to exist and commit evil, if he exists and expecting fallible creatures like us to somehow determine spiritual or religious truth from falsehood and punishing us if we don't.Let's see.... I'm guessing...
1. The creator, if he exist, has not done a good job with..
a) revealing himself (there is much confusion in religion, and their "holy" books)
b) doing good (the world is a mess. People, including children suffer needlessly)
The multitude just got very tiny (I drew a blank
Right but since we're fallible and prone to error and being deceived how can we can tell falsehood from truth?
Ok cool
But what if it's true? You do know it wouldn't disprove God's existence right?
Why?
Well I addressed that above but I had more but I can't think of them right now. I'll tell you more as I remember.I'll be interested in seeing what your list looks like though. The "multitude" thing got me curious.
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So why is Christianity so exclusive in its truth claims and why does it promise to punish people for not recognizing it as such?
Yeah I wanted to know why He would care.
OK I understand now, thanks for clarifying things. I appreciate your perspective.Hello Jos,
You asked to simplify it (I tried my best)
It became lengthy, but I think simple (just more reading time)
Why does God care about some mammal species floating around in the middle of nowhere?
I got the feeling that you had the feeling that God does not care (also because of your "what exactly does it mean anyway" below)
But I can be totally wrong, and that you were very eager to know "why does God care"
If that is the case, then my answer is totally inappropriate due to false interpretation of your above line
If that is not the case, then I hope I can clarify what I meant, and this it makes sense
I thought it means: God made humans in His own image
I got the feeling you were not too happy with 74x12 his answer
And then I explained what I think this means
*): Rereading this, I see "should" is the wrong word. Better would be "could"
*): Rereading this, I see that the last line can be deleted; not part of your question (so strike-through)
*) We all know that many humans can't be trusted, and that many humans don't care (about others) [of course there are plenty exceptions]
*) Now, the Bible says "God made them in His own image". This I interpreted that God and Humans have same characteristics
So "Humans can't be trusted", means "God can't be trusted"
So "Humans don't care", means "God does not care"
Your initial question was: Why does God care about some mammal species floating around in the middle of nowhere?
My conclusion was: God does not care (proven by the Bible claiming "God made humans in His own image" and knowing that Humans can't be trusted)
If your goal was to know "why does God care"
I have to disappoint you, I think "God does not care", if Bible is correct stating "God made human in His own image"
Personally I do not believe that God is a human, with human feelings
So, in that way, I also do not believe that God has this "caring feeling" as we humans experience
But I do not say "God does not care", because I know nothing about God
It's is just IMHO (I realize now more than ever, I better not even answer this type of questions anymore)
Personally I think the meaning of "God made human in His own image" has a complete different meaning
But I could not use that meaning, because then I would never come to your question "Why does God care about some mammal species .."
Disclaimer:
All the above is just my personal interpretation I had today.
If they present another Bible verse tomorrow, I might come up with "God does care", of course adding IMHO
sojourner
Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
If most are exclusive then how does one tell which if any is true?
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You know feelings can be deceptive right?
How is it deceptive if it's known as a fact?
Tell that to all the people who believed that the earth was flat.
nPeace
Veteran Member
WoohooSome people have that opinion.
However, it is only an opinion, as it is not an accurate assessment of the facts, and is quite shortsighted, as far as the Bible is concerned.
I could tell you that allowing evil, does not make humans any less special.
To illustrate...
Say you had a daughter that was kidnapped and held for ransom. If you had to make a sacrifice, in order to get your daughter back alive, would you make that sacrifice?
What if someone offered to risk their life, to get her back, instead of having you risk yours? What if you risked your life?
Does that mean you did not value your life, or that person's? No. It doesn't. You simply love your daughter so much, you are willing to take any risk, that might bring her home safely.
According to the Bible...
God allows the Devil to remain a while, for a very important reason, which involves mankind complete rescue.
Those whom God determines to destroy, include only the wicked - that is, people who willingly refuse to know "what righteousness means". Proverbs 2:21, 22; Psalm 37:9-11; 2 Thessalonians 1:6-9
God made a loving provision that would result in saving all mankind,... John 3:16, 17 This gift though does not extend to haters of what is good. It would not be a loving thing to rescue people from bad, and put them back in an environment with bad. That would be foolish, don't you agree?
If one can't tell falsehood from truth, I am of the opinion 1) they might not be trying hard enough, or 2) they might be trying, but need to be patient, as sometimes truth does not come to light instantly, but may require more investigation (so don't give up, give it time), or 3) @Jos they are looking in all the wrong places.
Seems you are confused.
Whether God is, or not, has nothing to do with evolution, or whether it is true or not.
For me, there is no reason to think about that.
Truth is truth. If something is true, we accept it as truth, regardless.
The fact that even many scientists have not accepted it, says a lot about its position, where truth is concerned... among other issues it's up against.
Because Christianity, as taught in the Bible, paints a different story, than the theory of evolution.
One might argue otherwise, but they have to make the Bible a book of myths, in order to do so, which would make Jesus - the one they claim to follow, and the founder of Biblical Christianity - a liar. For Jesus referred to his father as being the one who created humankind, and yoked them in marriage... among other things.
He and his apostles also referred to genealogies, which included Noah, and they recount the flood as a real event.
That's okay. I think you meant that these were big issues, as to make them a multitude.
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Well for me without assuming that an all good God exists, all the evil and suffering in the world makes sense given that humans are animals too and assuming that an all good God does exist it doesn't make sense that He intervenes to stop evil and suffering on some occasions and not others. Also humans look and behave too similarly to animals for me to think that we're special.
But not everyone will be rescued
But many humans are too fallible to recognize as a saving provision. How is that their fault?
Right but with something as complex as spirituality especially given that humans are fallible can humans really be faulted for getting it wrong?
Well actually it seems only a minority don't accept it
But it seems to be metaphorical
Many people say that he was being metaphorical.
Sorry about any confusion.
Usually the theists do that. I don't know what God would be like.