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Socialist AOC can't stand it when straight people want a pride parade of their own.

Shad

Veteran Member
Here's a video of a Proud Boy founder named Jovanni Vale saying that the Proud Boys "started with white nationalism"

He was kicked out of the group for those association.

of the founder Gavin making a list of white nationalist friends of his that he thinks are "pretty nice guys"

Gavin is married to an aboriginal.....

1) Richard Spencer- Famous white nationalist, known for loving Hitler, spreading 19th century fascist propaganda, yelling "Heil Trump", beating his wife and supporting the 19th century American Nazi party. I reckon you've heard of him.

2)John Derbyshire, a self confessed white supremacist who once wrote:

"Leaving aside the intended malice, I actually think "White Supremacist" is not bad semantically. White supremacy, in the sense of a society in which key decisions are made by white Europeans, is one of the better arrangements History has come up with." -John Derbyshire.

3) Jared Taylor: A white supremacist who promotes white genocide conspiracy theory to promote white nationalism and anti-multiculturalism.

You can run interference all you want, but anyone who isn't already down the rabbit hole sees through your blatant attempts to run interference for and defend a white supremacist gang.

None of them were or are members
 
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Shad

Veteran Member
Oh really?

In 2018, nearly all instances of domestic terrorism were committed by right-wing groups and white supremacists:

https://www.adl.org/media/12480/download

You didn't fact check this did you?

Scott Paul Beierle's attack was directed at woman not race.

Jeremy Shaw killed to steal property

Demetrius Alexander Brown is black and killed someone over a car sale involving fraud

Richard Starry killed his family and himself. No WS motive established.

James Mathis killed his own kid....

Joshua Daniel Miller was anti-gov which is not the same as WS. Anti-gov isn't only a right-wing view. He attacked his wife and her b/f...

You've been fed a lie.

This is hilarious considering what I posted above while only being on page 2 of the false report from ADL

Malachi Qaadir Dorns killed his family after an argument.

Roger Melvin Tackett killed an acquaintance after a dispute.

Travis Reinking shot up the place of his previous employment after being terminated.

Who is lying to who now?
 
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Shad

Veteran Member
Gavin's married to an aboriginal... so we should ignore when he calls neo-nazis "pretty good people"?

That is provided your source is honest which it isn't.

Why are you running interference for this dude?

As your claims are easy to refute and false as you didn't watch what you linked. He is mocking the left and it's labeling. He is mocking their purity culture. A person can be nice, manners, while holding bad ideas. After all he commented on manners and conduct towards him not the ideology they hold. He pointed out people, the supporters, attack him for race mixing. You just echo purity culture blindly.
 
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Shad

Veteran Member
It's literally a video of Gavin talking, calling the 3 white supremacists "pretty good people" and refers to atleast 1 of them as a friend.

Within context of how they treated him. Again you didn't watch the video.

Lazy attempts to obscure the obvious.

Nope. Watch the video and try again.

Definition of manners | Dictionary.com

Again you just do not know what manners are and follow purity culture of the left. Someone can be nice but hold an idea I object to. For example most Muslims are probably nice. However Islam is pretty dumb in my view. Most religions are in my view.
 

Shad

Veteran Member
The whole event was to troll and to create a reaction. It worked too well as both sides are being fooled.
 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
Within context of how they treated him. Again you didn't watch the video.
What difference does that make? I am sure a white supremacist would be nice to me (I am white, downright pasty actually). But that does not mean they are good people, and I would never call one a friend.
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
What difference does that make? I am sure a white supremacist would be nice to me (I am white, downright pasty actually). But that does not mean they are good people, and I would never call one a friend.
When I used to work retail there was a gentleman who always came through my checkout. He was very polite and seemed very sweet. Or at least like he had old fashioned manners. He stopped coming through for about 7 or 8 months or so.
I asked him about it and he seemed super sheepish about it. He said he was in jail for a “hate crime” in massive air quotes. I didn’t prove but he casually said something about the “filthy Jewry”
Apparently he was a member of the KKK
 

ImmortalFlame

Woke gremlin
By this measure, Martin Luther King was stirring up violence.
Um, no. Martin Luther King explicitly spoke out against stirring up violence and was adamant about protest being peaceful. On the other hand, the far-right groups that are involved in organizing these rallies often do so with the expressed intention of stirring up violence.
 
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ImmortalFlame

Woke gremlin

Wandering Monk

Well-Known Member
Um, no. Martin Luther King explicitly spoke out against stirring up violence and was adamant about protest being peaceful. On the other hand, the far-right groups that are involved in organizing these rallies often do so with the expressed intention of stirring up violence.

He knew his presence would provoke violence. He marched anyway. This is the same thing straight pride marchers are doing. Same as wearing a MAGA hat in public.
 

ImmortalFlame

Woke gremlin
He knew his presence would provoke violence. He marched anyway. This is the same thing straight pride marchers are doing. Same as wearing a MAGA hat in public.
He knew his presence would provoke violence, but that doesn't mean provoking violence was actually their intent. They provoked violence by sitting quietly and peacefully, knowing that they would be assailed by racists. What the far right are engaged in is straight-up provocation to violence. They are not sitting peacefully and passively while violence is inflicted on them - they invite the violence through deliberate provocation.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Why is it cool all of a sudden to hate on and discriminate against white people? seems like the LQBT supporters are doing to the "White man" what was done to them and the LGBT community. How ironic
They've been fed so much propaganda that they feel they are as much a victim today as much as the actual victims were in the past.

I see all this as a stick it to "whitey" campaign using the existing remenets of hate groups that are still out there as an excuse to try to convince the world that they are still repressed in spite of all the progressive changes made already.
 

Mindmaster

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Uh huh.

1) The Daily Wire is a far-right propaganda site run by brazen, unapologetic idiot and corporate tool Ben Shapiro.
2) Bringing up a list of Antifa violence while ignoring violence committed by all other groups isn't evidence that Antifa are MORE violence than any other group. This should be obvious.

Regardless of their "affiliation" with the right, they weren't the only place reporting the news. Secondly, it's not a a > b scenario -- being a violent retard transcends your affiliation with either side of the political spectrum though it is part of the identifying characteristics of these individuals. Discrediting the information because of who it's from is a logical fallacy called a genetic fallacy. :D Anyway, if you'd like your truth about antifa hi-jinx you won't find it on leftist media because typically they won't report it. The only reason I used that link is because it was one of the few that summarized the information comprehensively and it was not the only source out there.
 

ImmortalFlame

Woke gremlin
Regardless of their "affiliation" with the right, they weren't the only place reporting the news.
I'm sure. But Antifa also have a lot of false narratives spread about them:
You searched for antifa | Snopes.com

Antifa members are responsible for violence, and often their tactics are reprehensible, but to claim that they are MORE violent than any other right-wing group is not true, and claiming that they are the MOST violent group is just blatantly false. The extreme right are interested in spreading fear-mongering about them, and a lot of people fall for it.

I'm not saying Antifa can't be dangerous. When I saw that College Professor hit a guy in the head with a bike lock I was as disgusted as anyone. But the point is not to get hysterical by swallowing the numerous falsehoods spread about them and blow the threat posed by Antifa way out of proportion, while ignoring the far more numerous accounts of right-wing terrorism and violence.

Secondly, it's not a a > b scenario -- being a violent retard transcends your affiliation with either side of the political spectrum though it is part of the identifying characteristics of these individuals.
The point is that extreme right-wing groups are, both historically and currently, far more violent and dangerous than groups like Antifa, contrary to what a lot of people have been saying.

Discrediting the information because of who it's from is a logical fallacy called a genetic fallacy. :D
Nope, because I don't discredit it because of Ben Shapiro just as a person. I discredit him as a source because of his history of false statements, outright lies and right-wing fear mongering. He is demonstrably not a reliable source.

Anyway, if you'd like your truth about antifa hi-jinx you won't find it on leftist media because typically they won't report it. The only reason I used that link is because it was one of the few that summarized the information comprehensively and it was not the only source out there.
Speaking about the truth regarding Antifa, when are you going to give me an example of this ever actually occuring:
"A skinhead might punch you in the mouth but at least it'll be done to your face - antifa will distract you with someone and then 2-3 of them will sneak up from behind and shank you. Not exactly the same thing."
 

Woberts

The Perfumed Seneschal
As a member of Antifa I can confirm that we don't counter-protest with violent intentions. Quite the opposite is true for the fascists, however.
 

Shad

Veteran Member
What difference does that make?

It is called context.

I am sure a white supremacist would be nice to me (I am white, downright pasty actually). But that does not mean they are good people, and I would never call one a friend.

You have changed what he said to what you want him to say by removing the context. He never said friend, he said those he knows.
 

averageJOE

zombie
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Straight Pride parade organizers John Hugo and Sampson Racioppi holding the "Straight Pride Flag".

You would think that for this picture, they would have had, I don't know, a man and woman holding this flag??? Instead of two men...making the picture look...kinda gay...
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
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Straight Pride parade organizers John Hugo and Sampson Racioppi holding the "Straight Pride Flag".

You would think that for this picture, they would have had, I don't know, a man and woman holding this flag??? Instead of two men...making the picture look...kinda gay...
Wow, they look super pumped and excited about their parade! :D
 
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