Did Jesus or any holy figure ever joke around?

Howard Is said:

Turning it into wine was his best prank

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Sheriff pulls over the bootlegger.

"open up the trunk, jeb, you are ridin' mighty
low on your springs."

Trunk is full of jugs

"What is this, Jeb?"

"Why, its water sheriff, some of that
spring water city folks like!"

Sheriff opens one, sniffs it.

"Take a sniff of this, Jeb, it dont
smell like water to me."

Jeb sniffs it, then falls to his knees,
eyes turned to heaven.

"Thank God for Jesus! He's done it again!!"

ideogenous_mover said:

kind of reading about this whole "idle speech" idea, which could probably be its own thread, but judging by some biblical passages I'm kind of doubting that joking or much laughter was ever allowed. This to me seems almost completely implausible when envisioning the new testament scenario of a dozen or so men continually camping and living together. However, there are plenty of passages speaking against chattering, babbling, joking and gossip. Jesus says you will have to give an account of all the words you say. So with that it mind, one wonders if all of these men were often almost completely silent, and as stone serious possible.

And to those who follow things outside of the bible, did your holy figures ever do much joking?

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Laughter and joy are a huge part of born again and Jewish life--Jesus constantly used irony and humor.

ideogenous_mover said:

kind of reading about this whole "idle speech" idea, which could probably be its own thread, but judging by some biblical passages I'm kind of doubting that joking or much laughter was ever allowed. This to me seems almost completely implausible when envisioning the new testament scenario of a dozen or so men continually camping and living together. However, there are plenty of passages speaking against chattering, babbling, joking and gossip. Jesus says you will have to give an account of all the words you say. So with that it mind, one wonders if all of these men were often almost completely silent, and as stone serious possible.

And to those who follow things outside of the bible, did your holy figures ever do much joking?

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Jesus the Holy Fool




Jesus was a joker, says Christian author - Premier


https://baptistnews.com/article/a-time-to-laugh-was-jesus-a-jokester/#.XXJv9yhKi70


Catholic Church of the Beatitudes: Jesus, the Jokester

Audie said:

What did he teach that was so "brilliant"?
For a son-o-god, he seems kind of derivative,
and not half the orator of, say, Churchill or Mark
Twain.

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What he taught, I've already discussed. Nothing new. However the idea he presents IMO is equality under God. Equality of worth. Whatever one's status in life, they deserve to be respected as a human being.

Nakosis said:

What he taught, I've already discussed. Nothing new. However the idea he presents IMO is equality under God. Equality of worth. Whatever one's status in life, they deserve to be respected as a human being.

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I have been reading a history of Spain v England in the
Caribbean, 1600s.

Of course, pirates like Morgan are a big part of the story.
The author comments on the social progressiveness
of the pirates, in that they observed no ranks, and all
were equal.

Seems to me they were more regressive, to a time
before kings and bureaucrats.

Tribal people such as pre-contact native americans
tended to be very egalitarian societies-except where
they got too big, as in Peru and Mexico.

So "Jesus" was hardly original, still less "brilliant"
to suggest that the leaders are oppressive, and
that we actually all are equal.

ideogenous_mover said:

kind of reading about this whole "idle speech" idea, which could probably be its own thread, but judging by some biblical passages I'm kind of doubting that joking or much laughter was ever allowed. This to me seems almost completely implausible when envisioning the new testament scenario of a dozen or so men continually camping and living together. However, there are plenty of passages speaking against chattering, babbling, joking and gossip. Jesus says you will have to give an account of all the words you say. So with that it mind, one wonders if all of these men were often almost completely silent, and as stone serious possible.

And to those who follow things outside of the bible, did your holy figures ever do much joking?

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I believe people tend to see different things as amusing. I think some of the things Jesus said are pretty amusing but others might not see it that way.

I believe since Jesus was a Capricorn that He would have been mostly serious. I do remember Jehovah made Sarah laugh.

Geoff-Allen said:

Curious timing indeed!

I was half planning - at 4 am and sleep-deprived a thread about humour & God ...

Great minds think alike.

There is no room for laughter in religion - life is deadly serious - if you believe the wrong things you may burn forever and that's not a pleasant prospect!

Only kidding - I firmly believe there is no Hell or eternal damnation but I could always be wrong - I never claimed to be inflammable!

Plenty of people believe ina loving God but how many believe in a laughing God?

I think that unless God has a fabulous sense of humour most of us are in deep trouble!

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Well I believe here God laughs:
Ps.2:4 He who sits in the heavens laughs;
the Lord holds them in derision.
but here He gets serious:
Ps 2:5 Then he will speak to them in his wrath,
and terrify them in his fury

Nowhere Man said:

Didn't Christianity's God afflict people with hemorrhoids at one time? I thought that was pretty funny.

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I believe I didn't think it was so funny.

Audie said:

I have been reading a history of Spain v England in the
Caribbean, 1600s.

Of course, pirates like Morgan are a big part of the story.
The author comments on the social progressiveness
of the pirates, in that they observed no ranks, and all
were equal.

Seems to me they were more regressive, to a time
before kings and bureaucrats.

Tribal people such as pre-contact native americans
tended to be very egalitarian societies-except where
they got too big, as in Peru and Mexico.

So "Jesus" was hardly original, still less "brilliant"
to suggest that the leaders are oppressive, and
that we actually all are equal.

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I wasn't making an argument for originality. Just what I got out of the story.

Nakosis said:

I wasn't making an argument for originality. Just what I got out of the story.

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Sure. That was just me making highly
original observations.

Muffled said:

I believe people tend to see different things as amusing. I think some of the things Jesus said are pretty amusing but others might not see it that way.

I believe since Jesus was a Capricorn that He would have been mostly serious. I do remember Jehovah made Sarah laugh.

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Not that anyone actually knows where or when he was born but...

Jesus was a Capricorn
He ate organic food
He believed in love and peace
And never wore no shoes
Long hair, beard and sandals
And a funky bunch of friends

Audie said:

Sure. That was just me making highly
original observations.

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I bow to your advanced originality.

Muffled said:

Well I believe here God laughs:
Ps.2:4 He who sits in the heavens laughs;
the Lord holds them in derision.
but here He gets serious:
Ps 2:5 Then he will speak to them in his wrath,
and terrify them in his fury

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Here is some more terrif god-humour

Nakosis said:

I bow to your advanced originality.

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I could not find anything funny about lampreys so
a hagfish will have to do

Howard Is said:

That’s why I like Sufism.
Mulla Nasrudin.

Nasrudin was standing near a river. A man on the other side shouted to him, "Hey! How can I get across the river?"

"You are across!" Nasrudin shouted back.

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There's a great book of Hafiz renderings called "I Heard God Laughing"

Laughter

What is laughter? What is laughter?
It is God waking up! O it is God waking up!
It is the sun poking its sweet head out
From behind a cloud
You have been carrying too long,
Veiling your eyes and heart.

It is Light breaking ground for a great Structure
That is your Real body- called Truth.

It is happiness applauding itself and then taking flight
To embrace everyone and everything in this world.

Laughter is the polestar
Held in the sky by our Beloved,
Who eternally says,

"Yes, dear ones, come this way,
Come this way toward Me and Love!

Come with your tender mouths moving
And your beautiful tongues conducting songs
And with your movements - your magic movements
Of hands and feet and glands and cells - Dancing!

Know that to God's Eye,
All movement is a Wondrous Language,
And Music - such exquisite, wild Music!"

O what is laughter, Hafiz?
What is this precious love and laughter
Budding in our hearts?
It is the glorious sound Of a soul waking up!

ideogenous_mover said:

kind of reading about this whole "idle speech" idea, which could probably be its own thread, but judging by some biblical passages I'm kind of doubting that joking or much laughter was ever allowed. This to me seems almost completely implausible when envisioning the new testament scenario of a dozen or so men continually camping and living together. However, there are plenty of passages speaking against chattering, babbling, joking and gossip. Jesus says you will have to give an account of all the words you say. So with that it mind, one wonders if all of these men were often almost completely silent, and as stone serious possible.

And to those who follow things outside of the bible, did your holy figures ever do much joking?

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Jesus seems to have had a sense of humour, according to the gospels, though it is only seen in brief flashes, via extravagant analogies.

But do you know "The Name of the Rose"? At the heart of that novel is the subversive (and therefore dangerous - even seditious or heretical) nature of humour.

Howard Is said:

That’s why I like Sufism.
Mulla Nasrudin.

Nasrudin was standing near a river. A man on the other side shouted to him, "Hey! How can I get across the river?"

"You are across!" Nasrudin shouted back.

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This one I remember
The great Sufi master Mullah Nasruddin was on his hands and knees searching for something under a streetlamp. A man saw him and asked, "What are you looking for?" "My house key," Nasruddin replied. "I lost it." The man joined him in looking for the key, and after a period of fruitless searching, the man asked, "Are you sure you lost it around here?" Nasruddin replied, "Oh, I didn't lose it around here. I lost it over there, by my house." "Then why," the man asked, "are you looking for it over here?" "Because," Nasruddin said, "The light is so much better over here."

ideogenous_mover said:

kind of reading about this whole "idle speech" idea, which could probably be its own thread, but judging by some biblical passages I'm kind of doubting that joking or much laughter was ever allowed. This to me seems almost completely implausible when envisioning the new testament scenario of a dozen or so men continually camping and living together. However, there are plenty of passages speaking against chattering, babbling, joking and gossip. Jesus says you will have to give an account of all the words you say. So with that it mind, one wonders if all of these men were often almost completely silent, and as stone serious possible.

And to those who follow things outside of the bible, did your holy figures ever do much joking?

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From personal experience, joking around, when giving insightful, though-provoking, and vitally motivating information (which was Jesus primary focus), can undermine that information. The two may not work very well together.
Unless...
The speaker is quite skilled, in mixing humor with such information. That appears to be something Jesus was very good at. Hyperbole - can be used in a form of humor, excitement, distress, and many other emotions, all depending on the context in which the speaker uses it.

(Matthew 7:3-5) 3 Why, then, do you look at the straw in your brother’s eye but do not notice the rafter in your own eye? 4 Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Allow me to remove the straw from your eye,’ when look! a rafter is in your own eye? 5 Hypocrite! First remove the rafter from your own eye, and then you will see clearly how to remove the straw from your brother’s eye.

(Matthew 7:9-11) 9 Indeed, which one of you, if his son asks for bread, will hand him a stone? 10 Or if he asks for a fish, he will not hand him a serpent, will he? 11 Therefore, if you, although being wicked, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more so will your Father who is in the heavens give good things to those asking him!

(Matthew 11:18, 19) 18 Likewise, John came neither eating nor drinking, but people say, ‘He has a demon.’ 19 The Son of man did come eating and drinking, but people say, ‘Look! A man who is a glutton and is given to drinking wine, a friend of tax collectors and sinners.’ All the same, wisdom is proved righteous by its works.”

I have found that some people tend to be more focused on having fun, and so they tend to miss important things in life.
That's why, disciplines don't work for everyone.

nPeace said:

Unless...
The speaker is quite skilled, in mixing humor with such information. That appears to be something Jesus was very good at.

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I never really took the hyperbole there to be really funny, it seemed to much that the joke-like quality you could read into the sayings is moreso a feature of actual contempt. That's not very funny at all, but appears to be how the divine source in Christianity wished to used joke-like statements, and I'm not really sure if that sends a useful message about what jokes should be or are in modern practice.

nPeace said:

I have found that some people tend to be more focused on having fun, and so they tend to miss important things in life.
That's why, disciplines don't work for everyone.

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I think I might disagree, it seems like the concept of 'fun' ends up sort of holding so many things together, enjoyment is often what sought even disciplined settings to give it levity and worth. I think it's probably what most people are hoping to find as they peel away at their own onion of life.

exchemist said:

But do you know "The Name of the Rose"?

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nope