Terry Sampson
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Forget it. Don't go there. There are things about X you don't know.
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To Hebrew experts: did Eve sleep with the Serpent?
- Thread starter Estro Felino
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sooda
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sooda
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Sick stuff , but maybe filth attracts some people... especially the ignorant. Jim Jones was a big fan of William Branham who came from a dirt poor illiterate family.
sooda
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The serpent-seed doctrine has been occasionally promoted in more recent times, such as by American religious leaders Daniel Parker (1781–1844),[2] William M. Branham (1909–1965),[3]:98 and Arnold Murray (1929–2014).
This belief is also held by some adherents of the white supremacist theology known as Christian Identity, who claim that Jews are descended from the serpent.[4][5] It is considered heresy by the Catholic and Eastern Orthodox churches and by most Protestants.[6]
The Unification Church teaches that Eve committed adultery with the devil, but does not teach the serpent-seed doctrine. A section of the Mormon Fundamentalist group Church of the Firstborn (LeBaron order) led by author and publisher Fred Collier out of Hanna, Utah adhere to a form of "two Seedline" doctrine.
Serpent seed - Wikipedia
Terry Sampson
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sooda
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The Serpent seed - Let Us Reason
www.letusreason.org/current126.htm
The Serpent seed, teaching "from the Serpent" One of the most deceptive doctrines that has slithered into the church is the serpent seed teaching. First popularized by William Branham and currently held by Arnold Murray of the shephers chapel and his followers that have adjusted some of its meanings. William Branham - "But it was a sex act ...
The trend nowadays in new kinds of "Christianity" seems to be the more outlandish the better.
Terry Sampson
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sooda
Veteran Member
Maybe claiming Eve had sex with the Serpent was a way of getting the attention of some "Christians".. You know, appealing to their prurient interests.
susanblange
Active Member
God does not view the world as male or female, black or white, Jew or Gentile. God views the world as wicked or righteous and they both come in all races, creeds, and colors. There is enmity, or hostility between them. The wicked are the seed of Adam and Jesus was his "one seed". Eve is the mother of the righteous and the Messiah is her "one seed". Seth carried on the seed of Eve. Genesis 4:25. Both Adam and Jesus were cursed by God. Genesis 3:14, Deuteronomy 21:23.
susanblange
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Eve was Adam's daughter as well as his wife. Adam was told by God not to eat from the Tree of Knowledge before Eve was created. Eve heard about this directive from Adam. Then Adam comes back to Eve and asks "Did God say..." and he tries to explain what God meant. Genesis 3:1-5. If there is such a thing as original sin, only males inherit it. It is also the main reason for circumcision.
susanblange
Active Member
That is my own doctrine. A&E is a parable and it is not meant to be taken literally. The serpent was a part of Adam's anatomy and A&E "ate" from Adam's body-the Tree of Knowledge, this was carnal knowledge. Adam/Satan/Chris is a sex offender.
susanblange
Active Member
In the NT, Jesus is called the second Adam and the seed of Adam. Adam's name was changed to Satan when he died and went to Heaven. Jesus is Lucifer, Satan's counterfeit messiah. Lucifer means "morning star" and that is who Jesus claims to be. Revelation 22:16.
Good-Ole-Rebel
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God sees male and female. He sees Jew and Gentile. He sees the elect and the non-elect. He sees children of God and children of satan. He sees the righteous and the wicked or unrighteous. He sees the various races.
So, now, what is your point?
Good-Ole-Rebel
Apparently you are having some difficulty understanding what either of us think.
I know of no 'Hebrew' mythology which might have given rise to the claim.
Good-Ole-Rebel
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So much wrong with these statements.
First, Jesus is never called the 'second Adam'. He is the 'Last Adam' and the 'Second Man'. Big difference. (1 Cor. 15:45) It is a common mistake among people, even Christians, but it should be corrected.
Jesus is not lucifer. Lucifer is the counterfeit. The wannabe.
Good-Ole-Rebel
sooda
Veteran Member
...What scripture calls Jesus the second dam. Where is theverse thtat says Adam's name was changed to satan?
Terry Sampson
Well-Known Member
Apparently, you're only partially right at best. In Estro's OP, she asked three questions; I understood and answered her third question and earned an "Informative" icon for it. I
- understood her first two questions,
- realized what she was asking, and
- know enough about the Adam/Eve/Serpent story in Genesis to know that she was being led astray by the porn version in the Christian apocryphal story she cited,
- that I could have told her so,
- but knew that I could not clinch my claim with authority because I haven't read the Babylonian and Jerusalem Talmuds, the Mishnah, and all of the Hebrew apocryphal writings just yet.
- Meanwhile, you were still trying to figure out why she needed a "Hebrew Expert" to satisfy her curiosity.
- You don't have to be a Christian Expert on the Christian Apocrypha or Greek to know that the apocryphal story of Eve and Satan having sex is hogwash.
sooda
Veteran Member
So you made all that up about Eve having sex with the serpent? Why didn't you say you made it up to begin with?