You have no answer to this, but you have an answer for male homosexuality?
How did you come to it? Can you be a bit more precise? I ask because I would like to use the same channels. If they are reliable. Are they?
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God and homosexuality.
- Thread starter leov
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You have no answer to this, but you have an answer for male homosexuality?
How did you come to it? Can you be a bit more precise? I ask because I would like to use the same channels. If they are reliable. Are they?
Ciao
- viole
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
I have no awareness of the existence of any God(s) to ask anything.
You're the one asserting that there is some God I should be asking questions of.
But I can't.
Religionists won't let God get a word in edgewise because they are always telling me what God really means.
Tom
Bob the Unbeliever
Well-Known Member
God never-- EVER actually answers directed questions to people who are being honest.
So we ask self-appointed speakers FOR god instead. I notice they all, without exception, use diversionary language-- as you have done.
Bob the Unbeliever
Well-Known Member
Of course not. I seems that none of god's special favorites can answer the question of "where is god"... except with condescending language and other diversions.
Bob the Unbeliever
Well-Known Member
Indeed, this is quite true. I do find it quite Interesting with an I? That "What God Wants", 100% of the time, coincides with what these "Speakers For God Want"...
Isn't that convenient?
firedragon
Veteran Member
Research on the number of HIV infected people are no good to justify negative sanctions on homosexuality I believe. I am no expert on this subject I am just voicing my thought.
What if they were allowed to be free in expressing their sexuality and were taught to use all kinds of protection, be mature in their decisions, etc? What will be the change? Has anyone tried this and then done a research to compare numbers?
The problem with using this kind of research to justify "what God would have thought" is in my opinion completely useless. Because there should be research done under different scenarios, with different conditions etc. Qualitative research should be done to understand the real reasons, thoughts etc and then a quantitative study should be formulated on the hypothesis created by the qualitative study.
Its very important to do that and compare date to come to conclusions like that. Otherwise, its pure bias assumption.
Again, I am no expert in this and I am a theist. I am only speaking my opinion. And I will be glad to study research if anyone is kind enough to point to some.
Peace.
leov
Well-Known Member
It was not my point, friend. I used HIV just as an example of gay related problem to illustrate point I was making, if you noticed I posted other examples too.
It’s not a gay related problem, it’s a promiscuity problem.
firedragon
Veteran Member
Sorry if I missed it.
leov
Well-Known Member
True or not It was not a part of the point I made.
If it’s not true then your point is invalid, is it not?
leov
Well-Known Member
We do not know gay behavior 3000 years ago, but we can assume that gays had more or less similar gay related illnesses as today. It was a grave problem then.
You have no evidence for that. The prohibitions on homosexuality in the Bible probably had more to do with reinforcing patriarchal gender roles. The actual verses about it aren't very clear, anyway. But there's no reason to believe that it had anything to so with health issues.
As for shigella, that is a very rare infection in the developed world but is a common cause of diarrhea in developing countries. It's probably more common in the tropics. It wasn't discovered until the 19th century. It doesn't really have anything to do with homosexuality.
leov
Well-Known Member
NewGuyOnTheBlock
Cult Survivor/Fundamentalist Pentecostal Apostate
You have evidence for that?
I have no idea what that has to do with anything. I guess you don't have a response. Typical.
leov
Well-Known Member
SCIENTISTS SUGGEST FRAMEWORK FOR EPIGENETICS IN COMMON DISEASE
Principle, it is much deeper than you think.
leov
Well-Known Member
OT says wipe out homosexual among Israeli, I explained why. Take it and go.
Philo takes license with all kinds of things in History, but he can't change the translation of the word israel. Its simply out of his hands. He has something to say about everything, but that doesn't make him a go to person on Judaism. Anyways if anyone has carefully bred genes its the Chinese not the Jews. Chinese people have been carefully focused on genetic breeding for millennia. Jewish people have not at all and believe in mixing; and look at all of the ethnic foods, music and behaviors they have collected over the centuries. Jewish people are of all kinds of shapes and colors, and genetically they are like a wild wood.