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The purpose of life

Epic Beard Man

Epic Beard Man

Bearded Philosopher
ChristineM said:
There may be sentience elsewhere in the universe, it is almost sure there is. But the universe itself does not have the structure for sentence. It is too big, the limitation is the speed of light.

As for purposes, we are insignificant in our own solar system, on a universal scale we are not even a single H2O molecule in all the oceans. It does massage the ego to believe (for whatever reason) that we are here for a reason,. The history of the universe simply does not bare that idea up
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I think you're inaccurately conflating individual purpose with universal significance. The discussion of purpose has nothing to do with our geocentric position when it comes to the cosmos. I don't think none of us here are saying the universe is alive why you and the other guy keep bringing up sentience when nobody here said the universe is aware.

I wouldn't even go as far as to say we know the universe is or isn't alive. As you said we are small in the universe so it would be arrogant on your part as a miniscule life form to assume the universe lacks sentience. We don't know but that is not the topic of discussion.

As I said before I feel my purpose is to help people. I'm good at it, I'm able to connect with people in my profession so I would say therefore that is my calling and purpose. Someone else who is good at sports may think their purpose is to be an athlete.

As I've said we all define our lives differently based on our experiences.
 
Epic Beard Man

Epic Beard Man

Bearded Philosopher
Landon Caeli said:
See, @Epic Beard Man..? This is the Butterfly Effect. Thanks for helping to make this possible..! :rolleyes:

Oops... Sorry for saying something about a scienific topic. My bad. I should never do that, right?
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You're a very weird individual. Do you smoke weed and come online for discussion? I mean, it's not a bad thing but I notice a lot of what you're trying to convey typically remind me of marijuana users who smoke weed and try and have philosophical discussions making no absolute sense.
 
Epic Beard Man

Epic Beard Man

Bearded Philosopher
ChristineM said:
You insulted my intelligence with the question


I responded in kind

You previously took the aggressive stance with



Perhaps because you dont know what a hypothesis is or perhaps to insult, i dont really know.

You also considered my post explaining why the universe cannot be sentient as 'funny' another insult that indicates you dont actually want to learn anything. But complain that i have not taught you anything.

So shall we see what transpires?
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See my above post...my man may not be all there himself
 
Cooky

Cooky

Veteran Member
Epic Beard Man said:
You're a very weird individual. Do you smoke weed and come online for discussion? I mean, it's not a bad thing but I notice a lot of what you're trying to convey typically remind me of marijuana users who smoke weed and try and have philosophical discussions making no absolute sense.
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Well, I do have a fever today, but that doesn't change the fact that you tend to cause constant confronrations with people on a regular basis, and have a total ghetto mentality, so much that you think people who are not *** *****, like you, are "weird".

This is a place intended for reasonable, civilized discussion. Not for name calling, like you just did calling me "weird". And I don't appreciate your ghetto insults.
 
Howard Is

Howard Is

Lucky Mud
Landon Caeli said:
Here's an excellent lecture on how reductionism leads to chaos. I highly recommend watching the whole thing, but the most intriguing part, IMO, begins at 19:50...


...Scale-free branching is also very interesting, which pops up at around 33:00
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Excellent lecture.

Here’s another example of how we don’t have much of an idea of how brains work - some brain activity involves neurones in different areas of the brain activating in sync when there is no neurophysiological structure which can account for that. Neural signals travel in the brain at a certain speed, so these parallel processes have no way of inter communicating fast enough to explain the tightly synchronised behaviour.

This is why I mentioned quantum computing in the tubules of neurones in an earlier post. Without non-local effects, brain activity cannot be accounted for.

If our brain relies on non-local effects, quantum processing, internally, are we then going to say with confidence that our brains have no connection to the rest of the universe ?

This is what I was getting at when I said that we are the universe.

The universe is one thing. We can not be something other than it.

So, back to the OP, the purpose of ‘life’ is the purpose of The Universe.

Most of the universe is plasma (about 99.9%).

Plasma has electrical and gravitational characteristics.

It is not mere emptiness between the stars. There is plasma everywhere.

As the Taoists said, the universe is an uncarved block. In other words, it is one thing.

We are part of that one thing, not tourists travelling through it like it was something external to us.

And consciousness is inherently non-local, and thus pervasive.

The views being expressed by our ‘scientific’ friend on this thread are actually mystical magical thinking which cannot be demonstrated.

We are not some mystical ghosts in the machine. We are the machine.

That was my point, @Epic Beard Man and @ChristineM.

The relevance of that to the thread should be obvious.


 
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Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
frbnsn said:
What is the purpose of life, according to you?
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After awhile through a lot of reflection I figure there is no purpose. I live in a society where "purpose" is the goal of a fulfilling life. People work daily to take care of their children, for example; and, to many, that is their purpose. I switched my bucket list so many times. I'm accepting there is no purpose. That's life. I am who I am.

I was reading for ISFPers like me to build goals based on experiences and make them short-term so we can see the result, thus motivation, to continue. If I had a purpose, I'd say is ride off experiences. I can't plan them but I can find ways to live better experiences, handle stress, and take care of myself.

Outside of that, the only way I heard of purpose is in a religious context.
 
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frbnsn

Member
Tony Bristow-Stagg said:
I see the purpose of life is to know and Love God. That knowledge is in knowing ones own self, as God is within, with Gods Laws.

All that is God is Good, it is Virtues. Thus if we know and Love God we will choose and live virtues over preference of a worldly selfish self.

Regards Tony
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You think well, Tony.
 
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frbnsn

Member
Unveiled Artist said:
After awhile through a lot of reflection I figure there is no purpose. I live in a society where "purpose" is the goal of a fulfilling life. People work daily to take care of their children, for example; and, to many, that is their purpose. I switched my bucket list so many times. I'm accepting there is no purpose. That's life. I am who I am.

I was reading for ISFPers like me to build goals based on experiences and make them short-term so we can see the result, thus motivation, to continue. If I had a purpose, I'd say is ride off experiences. I can't plan them but I can find ways to live better experiences, handle stress, and take care of myself.

Outside of that, the only way I heard of purpose is in a religious context.
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I felt a bit tedium in you, right?...
 
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frbnsn

Member
susanblange said:
The purpose of life is life itself. God created us because he was lonely and it is his purpose for all of us to enter Heaven when we die, live together with God, and take part in the resurrection. Zechariah 14:5. God established a covenant of life with us and if we keep it we will live beyond this earthly life. Ecclesiastes 12:13-14.
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Dear susanblange,
I see a person who obeys god... Right?...
 
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frbnsn

Member
Epic Beard Man said:
There really is no universal answer whether right or wrong because the idea of purpose varies from person to person. Sometimes finding our purpose requires a lifetime of searching.
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Dear Epic Beard Man,
...a lifetime of searching.?Right but as a result, should be chosen a goal.
 
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frbnsn

Member
Landon Caeli said:
Just like individual lives grow and advance into adulthood, the entirety of life is to grow to *be* God.

...The Catholic Church teaches us that one day, we will be gods.

The Word became flesh to make us “partakers of the divine nature” (2 Pet. 1:4): “For this is why the Word became man, and the Son of God became the Son of man: so that man, by entering into communion with the Word and thus receiving divine sonship, might become a son of God” (St. Iranaeus, adv. haeres 3, 19, 1: PG 7/1, 939). “For the Son of God became man so that we might become God” (St. Athanasius, De inc., 54, 3: PG 25, 192B). “The only-begotten Son of God, wanting to make us sharers in his divinity, assumed our nature, so that he, made man, might make men gods” (St. Thomas Aquinas, Opusc., 57:1-4).
Are We Gods?

Theosis (Eastern Christian theology) - Wikipedia
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According to you, may Jesus the son of god?
 
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frbnsn

Member
whirlingmerc said:
Man is made uniquely in creation to reflect on and reflect the glory of God,
to know God and enjoy Him forever.

A song:

Above all Powers: Love pleased love, loving even me
(lyrics fix attempt of a popular Christian song ):

Before all others, there God, the one
And in that glory was love between father and a son
Communion. joy majesty and care
it would fill eternity to share.

chorus
Coming from the throne joy poured out a song,
worlds were born to make His story known
Painting praise through stars and mouths of littlest ones,
and roses reflecting his glory, ruined and fallen on the ground, He picked them up, breathed on them then wove into His crown.
He picked me up and wove me into His crown.
love pleased love to love even me

Before any angel or any star
Before any creature would magnify his worth
There were heights and depths and breadths in God
it would take profound mercy to show.

(may read... or skip)
I heard God loves you and has a wonderful plan for your life
I thought his gifts were all about me
But I was wrong

(may read for contrast)
Before all confusion, before all tears,
Before all sadness and the hunger games began
Before my fears, my prayer, before my highest hopes
Love pleased love to make a way for me to come home
Death will die A bride prepared for a beloved son
Purified, radiant and in love
Emptied himself, despising my thorns and for joy laid his own life down

(sing)
Crucified, laid behind a stone
Lived to die, rejected and alone
My shield, guide and friend picked me up and leads me on
, a prize for his name sake, to heights of Himself
I treasure him, he treasures me
I am His and the one from, through, to and for are all things,
He is mine

(may read for contrast)
You make the going out of morning and evening shout for joy
that hearts at the ends of this earth may be in awe of your work
Yet so much more will the sunset and sunrise of the Son of God
fill hearts with marveling, love mercy, and praise into the ages of the ages
Beyond all

chorus
Coming from the throne joy poured out a song,
worlds were born to make His story known
Painting praise through stars and mouths of littlest ones,
and roses reflecting his glory, ruined and fallen on the ground, He picked them up, breathed on them then wove into His crown.
He picked me up and wove me into His crown.
love pleased love to love even me[/
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O.K.
 
danieldemol

danieldemol

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
frbnsn said:
Dear danieldemol,
Why not a bad character?
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Because bad character is not for the benefit of society which is what has allowed humans to prosper over other species and because without virtues your soul will not be empowered or adequately developed when you put off your mortal body
 
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