Thou shalt not.........

Skwim · Aug 22, 2019

BSM1 said:
Still, to yearn to have something LIKE your neighbor's is a far cry from yearning to have your neighbor's stuff. The verse quoted is explicit in saying not to covet your neighbor's stuff; it doesn't say you can't have an ox, or sprinkler, or wife like your neighbor's.

No it isn't explicit at all. There's nothing in the definition of "covet" stating that what is yearned for is expressly the property of someone else.

As examples, the Cambridge Dictionary submits in its definition of "covet":

"She always coveted power but never quite achieved it."

"The Booker Prize is the most coveted British literary award."

there's no sense in depriving someone else of their power or their Booker Prize.

.

lostwanderingsoul · Aug 22, 2019

I don't think adding more commandments would make any difference. People mostly ignore the ten we already have so two more would not matter

stvdv · Aug 22, 2019

Skwim said:
coveting
yearn to possess or have (something).

coveting that which belongs to your neighbor

Verse seems clear to me

Skwim said:
So wanting a lawn sprinkler like the guy next door has is a sin,*

the penalty for which is death!** Hmm, sounds a bit harsh to me. How about you?

Verse just says "don't desire your neighbor's sprinkler"

Agreed that death penalty is harsh, though some americans own guns, so they might shoot you, when you break in and try to steal their sprinkler

Spartan · Aug 22, 2019

JJ50 said:
A couple of commandments that are missing from the list are:-

Thou shalt not have sex with children.

Thou shalt not rape or sexually abuse anyone. Sex should be between consenting adults only.

If those had been added maybe paedophilia, which is particularly prevalent among Catholic priests, although other denominations have perverts too, might be a rarity?

Thous shalt not commit sodomy.

Mock Turtle · Aug 23, 2019

Thou shalt not open your car door to endanger cyclists!

loverofhumanity · Aug 23, 2019

The Bible is very clear on sexual morality. It is forbidden.

1 Corinthians 6:18
"Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a person commits are outside the body, but whoever sins sexually, sins against their own body."

The Bible is about being spiritual and acquiring virtues to ennoble our characters.

JJ50 · Aug 23, 2019

loverofhumanity said:
The Bible is very clear on sexual morality. It is forbidden.

1 Corinthians 6:18
"Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a person commits are outside the body, but whoever sins sexually, sins against their own body."

The Bible is about being spiritual and acquiring virtues to ennoble our characters.

Mary got pregnant before she married Joseph, it was ok for god to have sexual relations with her even though she was betrothed to a human male?

Messianic Israelite · Aug 23, 2019

JJ50 said:
A couple of commandments that are missing from the list are:-

Thou shalt not have sex with children.

Thou shalt not rape or sexually abuse anyone. Sex should be between consenting adults only.

If those had been added maybe paedophilia, which is particularly prevalent among Catholic priests, although other denominations have perverts too, might be a rarity?

They are some things that do not need to be stated as Laws. And rape is outlawed in the Bible.

Subduction Zone · Aug 23, 2019

BSM1 said:
"Thou shalt not poke along in the passing lane..."" works for me.

Besides that speeders can be useful. I may not feel like driving twenty over the speed limit but letting someone lead the way until they are lost to sight clears the police out of the way. I have no worries about going 10 mph over the speed limit when behind someone leading the way going even faster. I will lose him sooner or later but it will not be long before another willing to take the risks comes along.

Subduction Zone · Aug 23, 2019

Messianic Israelite said:
They are some things that do not need to be stated as Laws. And rape is outlawed in the Bible.

It is treated more as a property crime than as a crime against a person. If the victim was single the many only needs to pay a penalty and take her for his wife. A sort of "you broke it you bought it" approach. Rape needs a fairer punishment than one that traps a victim with her attacker for her entire life.

loverofhumanity · Aug 23, 2019

JJ50 said:
Mary got pregnant before she married Joseph, it was ok for god to have sexual relations with her even though she was betrothed to a human male?

God, we are told us spirit so nonsuch things are involved. Today we do many things that former generations considered impossible so too nothing is impossible to God.

JJ50 · Aug 23, 2019

loverofhumanity said:
God, we are told us spirit so nonsuch things are involved. Today we do many things that former generations considered impossible so too nothing is impossible to God.

That is your belief, but you don't even have any verifiable evidence it exists.

Vee · Aug 23, 2019

JJ50 said:
A couple of commandments that are missing from the list are:-

Thou shalt not have sex with children.

Thou shalt not rape or sexually abuse anyone. Sex should be between consenting adults only.

If those had been added maybe paedophilia, which is particularly prevalent among Catholic priests, although other denominations have perverts too, might be a rarity?

The fact that people need to be told that is, in itself, very disturbing.

PruePhillip · Aug 23, 2019

JJ50 said:
A couple of commandments that are missing from the list are:-

Thou shalt not have sex with children.

Thou shalt not rape or sexually abuse anyone. Sex should be between consenting adults only.

If those had been added maybe paedophilia, which is particularly prevalent among Catholic priests, although other denominations have perverts too, might be a rarity?

What about thou shalt not pollute the atmosphere?
Thou shalt not mistreat animals?
Thou shalt not eat GM food (though its safer 'cos its tested, so let's scrap that one?)

You know, lots of people mock the bible. But the bible is made of two main books - the
Old and New Testament. The Old testament was about these "thou shalt not" and the
New was focused upon love and grace - that's Christianity.

Okay?

So as Christianity is increasingly diminished we are reverting to the Old Testament
scheme of rules and regulations. In Australia some schools have classes for young
boys to learn not to sexually abuse young girls. Never happened in my generation
because there was no sexualized society (read my profile below.)
And now we have an avalanche of rules to control everything in our life - things like
courtesy, respect, family honor etc. that were considered normal before the 1960's.

We haven't escaped "religion" at all.

PruePhillip · Aug 23, 2019

JJ50 said:
That is your belief, but you don't even have any verifiable evidence it exists.

Have you tested it yourself?

Hockeycowboy · Aug 23, 2019

Subduction Zone said:
Besides that speeders can be useful. I may not feel like driving twenty over the speed limit but letting someone lead the way until they are lost to sight clears the police out of the way. I have no worries about going 10 mph over the speed limit when behind someone leading the way going even faster. I will lose him sooner or later but it will not be long before another willing to take the risks comes along.

I'll do the same thing. We've got one similarity.
Lol.

Hockeycowboy · Aug 23, 2019

columbus said:
I think a more important 11th Commandment would be
Thou Shalt Not Despoil the Earth.

But in the primitive world, thousands of years ago, that wasn't an issue. So their primitive God didn't care either.
Tom

You think?

Read Revelation 11:18, last line.

InChrist · Aug 23, 2019

columbus said:
I think a more important 11th Commandment would be
Thou Shalt Not Despoil the Earth.

But in the primitive world, thousands of years ago, that wasn't an issue. So their primitive God didn't care either.
Tom

What primitive God are you talking about who didn't care? The biblical God has said He will judge and destroy those who destroy the earth....

The nations were angry, and your wrath has come. The time has come for judging the dead, and for rewarding your servants the prophets and your people who revere your name, both great and small— and for destroying those who destroy the earth.”

JJ50 · Aug 24, 2019

InChrist said:
What primitive God are you talking about who didn't care? The biblical God has said He will judge and destroy those who destroy the earth....

The nations were angry, and your wrath has come. The time has come for judging the dead, and for rewarding your servants the prophets and your people who revere your name, both great and small— and for destroying those who destroy the earth.”

What a psycho your version of god is!

PruePhillip · Aug 24, 2019

JJ50 said:
What a psycho your version of god is!

Just read the history of the Jews and you get an idea of what God did - from a
purely historic point of view.
The bible states the Jews will reject their Messiah and be cast out. Jesus gave
graphic detail of what was to come. But in the last days, when the Gentiles
themselves no longer believe in the Messiah, the Jews will return to their home
land and take it back with the sword.
But how many Jews died in pogroms and genocides? Many millions.
"psycho"? Call God what you like. But it happened, and is still happening as Jews
face increasing antisemitism now in Western countries.

Thou shalt not.........

Veteran Member

Well-Known Member

Veteran Member: I Share (not Debate) my POV

Well-Known Member

Oh my, did I say that!

We are all the leaves of one tree

Well-Known Member

Active Member

Veteran Member

Veteran Member

We are all the leaves of one tree

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Witness for Jehovah

Witness for Jehovah

Free4ever

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member