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Both fully God and fully man

sojourner

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
LightofTruth said:
The Scripture was translated from the Greek long before your scholar.
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First of all, he’s not “MY” scholar. I don’t know what thats supposed to imply.

Second, he has worked on a few modern language translations. This isn’t even a real argument — it’s more like a poor attempt at “Nyah — Nyah!”
 
MJFlores

MJFlores

Well-Known Member
sojourner said:
...which he has helped to translate from Greek, so you can read it...

This is the scholar who’s not “worth your time.”


It’s like biting off the hand that feeds you...
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LightofTruth

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Desert Snake said:
Do yourself a favor, and formulate new arguments. The usual hodge podge trash pile is worthless.

Entirely new arguments.
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You're a typical trinitarian. The best that they can do when faced with truth that exposes their lies is to insult the competition. It never fails.
 
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LightofTruth

Well-Known Member
sojourner said:
First of all, he’s not “MY” scholar. I don’t know what thats supposed to imply.

Second, he has worked on a few modern language translations. This isn’t even a real argument — it’s more like a poor attempt at “Nyah — Nyah!”
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The KJV is a very good translation. It's not perfect and I'd be willing to bet the house neither is your scholar
 
sojourner

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
LightofTruth said:
If the trinitarian knew the truth that Jesus is one person with one mind then he would know that the person who is Jesus died and was raised again from the dead. And if he knew this he would have to abandon trinitarianism based on the fact that God cannot die.
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This is a kindergarten theological merry-go-round that doesn’t even make sense.
 
sojourner

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
LightofTruth said:
The KJV is a very good translation. It's not perfect and I'd be willing to bet the house neither is your scholar
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No one is — which is why teams of people are employed to do the translations.

The KJV is a fine translation, but it doesn’t take advantage of scholarship and sources developed and discovered since 1611.
 
sojourner

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
LightofTruth said:
Why don't you grow up and address my comments like an adult rather than resorting to what ALL trinitarians do.
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Why don’t you grow up and stop pretending that you’re not doing what you claim others do?
 
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whirlingmerc

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LightofTruth said:
Below is a quote from Desiring God website which explains how Jesus could be both fully God and fully man. The writer says:

"Jesus is just as fully human as the rest of us, for just as he has all of the essential elements of the Godhead, he has all the essential elements of human nature: a human body, a human soul, a human mind, a human will, and human emotions. His human mind was not replaced by his divine mind. Rather, he has both a human and divine mind."

According to the writer, Jesus has two minds and two wills.

So, what do you think?

Personally, I think it's hogwash.
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Jesus spoke in terms that support the fully God and fully man view of himself.
One area notably is laying down his life and taking it up again himself.
That is said in John 2 and John 10.

Jesus was fully man, enough so to die in his humanity
Jesus was fully God, enough so not to die in his divinity
A package of two natures

"Tear down this temple and in three days I will raise it again" John 2
"I lay down my life and have authority to take it up again" John 10
 
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LightofTruth

Well-Known Member
whirlingmerc said:
Jesus spoke in terms that support the fully God and fully man view of himself.
One area notably is laying down his life and taking it up again himself.
That is said in John 2 and John 10.

Jesus was fully man, enough so to die in his humanity
Jesus was fully God, enough so not to die in his divinity
A package of two natures

"Tear down this temple and in three days I will raise it again" John 2
"I lay down my life and have authority to take it up again" John 10
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The apostles say that God raised Jesus from the dead. The reason Jesus can say that he would raise himself is not because he was alive to do so but because he had a command from his Father to lay down his life and if he did he could take it back again.
 
MJFlores

MJFlores

Well-Known Member
sojourner said:
...which he has helped to translate from Greek, so you can read it...

This is the scholar who’s not “worth your time.”


It’s like biting off the hand that feeds you...
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This totally blew my mind.
It’s like biting off the hand that feeds you

When did the guy even offered me a sandwich?
Next he did what?
helped to translate from Greek

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Another unsubstantiated trinitarian like assertion.
 
sojourner

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
MJFlores said:
This totally blew my mind.
It’s like biting off the hand that feeds you

When did the guy even offered me a sandwich?
Next he did what?
helped to translate from Greek

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Another unsubstantiated trinitarian like assertion.
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<Yawn>
 
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