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Is sexuality a choice?

Shad

Veteran Member
I'm interested to hear the views of those who think sexuality is a choice - specifically in response to these questions...

1: did you choose to be heterosexual?

2: could you choose to be homosexual? Remember, just choosing to have gay sex doesn't make you gay. You have to be attracted to the same sex. That's kind of how it works.

If you answered no to either of these, then sexuality isn't a choice. If sexuality isn't a choice, then in what world can anyone be justified in sending gay people to hell?

Another part of this topic is the whole HIV/Aids thing as a punishment. Why would an all powerful god create a pubishment for a specific group of people, that also harmed people outside of that group? Also, why would he bother? Surely he could just send em to hell when they're done, what difference does it make?

To me, its obvious that either God doesn't exist or he's a raging hateful buffoon... Imagine Hitler, but with an IQ of about 31.

1. No

2. No

Religion is babble people spend years of their lives committed to. Religion is not God. Crackpot televangelists are not God
 

stvdv

Veteran Member: I Share (not Debate) my POV
Meaning of disorder:
noun: disorder
  • Medicine
    an illness that disrupts normal physical or mental functions.
Homosexuality disrupts normal sexual functions therefore it is a disorder.


Not so. My man parts work just fine. I just don't use them to make babies. Just as heterosexual couples don't use them at times to make babies. Is heterosex for its own sake, without procreating a dysfunction? There are probably thousands of men who have children, having had sex with women, but are gay. Does it mean the men enjoyed the sex? Maybe, maybe not. I wouldn't. So how could I do it? Fantasizing, sufficient stimulation just to get the job done. Why would I do it? Maybe I want a child and there is a woman willing to bear me a child. Maybe she wants a child and has an attraction for me.
IMHO: There is only 1 disorder here, a heterosexual stating as a fact "Homosexuality disrupts normal sexual functions therefore it is a disorder"
And it is violating even RF rule #8. You should add "In my humble opinion" when stating such opinion as a fact; especially when imposing on others
 
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Goodman John

Active Member
What is the function of sexual intercourse? One might easily argue the point that its function is procreation of the species, and they'd be totally correct. But does sexual intercourse serve any other positive function? Well, it certainly feels good and relieves tension and any number of other positive attributes. Does sexual intercourse serve any other negative function? It can certainly be used as a weapon, asserting one's dominance over another, or withholding it used as punishment, or a number of other negative uses.

Like the scene in the film Apollo 13 when the ground crew is trying to figure out how to use the ship's rocket to get the flight crew back to earth, "I don't care what it was designed to do- what CAN it do?" With respect to sex, we know what it was designed for and what it can do besides that- the question you have to ask yourself is whether or not you should limit yourself to the former or include it while enjoying the latter.

Personally, I say go for it as long as everyone is a consenting adult. If a child is produced, though, most definitely those involved should step up and take responsibility for its care and upbringing. In that sense it would probably better for the child to have a stable nuclear family, but as we're seeing all manner of family compositions emerging these days it may soon become a moot point.
 

Samael_Khan

Goosebender
IMHO: There is only 1 disorder here, a heterosexual stating as a fact "Homosexuality disrupts normal sexual functions therefore it is a disorder"
And it is violating even RF rule #8. You should add "In my humble opinion" when stating such opinion as a fact; especially when imposing on others

Well then that heterosexuals disorder was cured on the thread as his thoughts have changed on the matter. :)

Please read all of my posts after that one. It was a line of thought that was proven to be wrong.
 

firedragon

Veteran Member
I'm interested to hear the views of those who think sexuality is a choice - specifically in response to these questions...

1: did you choose to be heterosexual?

2: could you choose to be homosexual? Remember, just choosing to have gay sex doesn't make you gay. You have to be attracted to the same sex. That's kind of how it works.

If you answered no to either of these, then sexuality isn't a choice. If sexuality isn't a choice, then in what world can anyone be justified in sending gay people to hell?

Another part of this topic is the whole HIV/Aids thing as a punishment. Why would an all powerful god create a pubishment for a specific group of people, that also harmed people outside of that group? Also, why would he bother? Surely he could just send em to hell when they're done, what difference does it make?

To me, its obvious that either God doesn't exist or he's a raging hateful buffoon... Imagine Hitler, but with an IQ of about 31.

1. No

2. For this there has to be a huge study made to make conclusions. I believe that some people through repeated sexual encounters with the same sex can become gay. I have heard of some men who were in Jail and repeatedly raped by other men and they eventually have become completely gay. Maybe it could happen the other way around as well. I mean there could be a woman who was always gay who could go through the same ordeal (Cruel. Im just stating a possibility). I don't know this. If someone could direct me to a real study (Not just opinion) I would read and change my views. And I will appreciate that gesture.

Anyway, there is no justification in sending people to hell for their sexual preference. And HIV is no punishment for any darn thing. Babies are born with HIV and I know a 14 year old boy who contracted HIV due to a blood transfusion.

And your conclusions about God is absolutely based on your already perceived notion where you could be wrong. Maybe there is a so called God and he is not so stupid as you think. Its just that your idea of God is shallow. Maybe. No offence. Just explore.
 

stvdv

Veteran Member: I Share (not Debate) my POV
Well then that heterosexuals disorder was cured on the thread as his thoughts have changed on the matter. :)

Please read all of my posts after that one. It was a line of thought that was proven to be wrong.
Miracles do happen it seems:). I read your additional posts.

I looked up the definition of what a disorder is. The link I check up about the APA gave this reason for why they don't consider homosexuality a disorder:

“We will no longer insist on a label of sickness for individuals who insist that they are well and demonstrate no generalized impairment in social effectiveness."
Good lesson to remember; experts sometimes do make mistakes. Especially internet experts. Even scientists sometimes have to admit they make huge mistakes

Correct, but that's not to say there aren't plenty of gays and lesbians who don't like themselves. I'd say that's because of societal pressure. I've interacted with some in real life and on-line. I was even one myself, to the point of being homophobic. Yes me, the Happy Homo at one time simultaneously
Good point.

Heterosexuals condemning homosexuality better be aware that their voodoo kind of words are the cause of some serious emotional problems in the homosexual , and as a consequence also physical ailments. When a homosexual starts hating themselves, which will affect his immune system, some serious diseases can start. The heterosexual is to blame IMO, because we are responsible for uttering mean words and so we are responsible for the effect thereof (called karma). At least when you judge others add the words "IMHO" to soften the blow. But especially those people seem to hate to use "IMHO" I have experienced. Makes me wonder.

Jesus gave the advice not to judge others, I think that also applies to this issue. Jesus did not say " do not judge others, except homosexuals"
 

MikeDwight

Well-Known Member
Its supposed to be a private choice, then there's planting evidence about any rational money in your life so police can seize it.
 

tas8831

Well-Known Member
Can't remember who the comedian was, but in reference to the claim by many that homosexuality is a choice, he says, "Ok, then give it a try!"
 
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