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More than half a billion bees drop dead in Brazil in three months

Stevicus

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More than half a billion bees dropped dead in Brazil within 3 months

More than half a billion bees dropped dead in Brazil within just three months, according to Bloomberg. Researchers say the main cause of death is pesticides, which could end up effecting more than the bees.

As some of the most integral pollinators in nature, bees contribute to the reproduction of various plants. About 75% of the world's crops depend on pollination by bees, the United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) reports.

FAO has warned about the importance of protecting bees to ensure food security. With 500 million dead in Brazil, the future of food has come into question.

Apparently, the pesticides they're using in Brazil are mostly banned in Europe.

Lab research points to pesticides with neonicotinoids and fipronil — products banned in Europe — as the main cause of death for most bees in Brazil. The use of these bee-killing pesticides spiked under former President Michel Temer and current President Jair Bolsonaro, according to Greenpeace's Unearthed.

In just three years, 193 weedkillers and pesticides containing chemicals banned in the European Union were registered in Brazil, the Unearthed investigation revealed. Brazil has become the biggest buyer of pesticides in the world.

The same problem has affected the U.S.

A 2014 studied from Harvard University found pesticides play a key role in killing off the honey bee population in the U.S.

Colony collapse disorder (CCD) has been affecting the U.S. bee population since 2006. The disorder causes bees to disappear from their hives. While the root cause of CCD is a mystery, many experts believe a combination of factors, including pesticides, are the driving force — especially neonicotinoid pesticides.
 

Saint Frankenstein

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This is horrible. I don't have much hope that the psychopathic dictator wannabe in power there will fix the mess, though. He's too busy trying to commit genocide against the indigenous Amazonian peoples.
 

Brickjectivity

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More than half a billion bees dropped dead in Brazil within 3 months



Apparently, the pesticides they're using in Brazil are mostly banned in Europe.



The same problem has affected the U.S.
Does this affect the debate on genetically modified crops? It seems like with those you don't need pesticides. I'm not very knowledgeable about that.

Anyways if these pesticides are killing off the bees we've got to reign in their use quick or use them after the flowers are gone...something.
 

Milton Platt

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They will not say it, figure out yourself by bits and pieces like this Aluminum in brain directly linked to autism | NaturalHealth365

First, the link about the Bumblebees does not even address autism at all.

Second, there is no credible research showing vaccines cause autism. The single study that did has been disproved a long time ago. The article was retracted when the flaws in the research became evident.
Vaccine Study: Autism Link Ripped by Scientists

Third, The amount of aluminum in a vaccine is negligible. It is less than is consumed through the foods we eat daily.

Vaccine Ingredients - Aluminum | Children's Hospital of Philadelphia


Fourth, The website you linked to is a highly questionable website whose purpose is to float health conspiracy junk articles an order to sell "natural" health products. If you want to convince someone of your viewpoint, you need to stick with the science.
 

leov

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First, the link about the Bumblebees does not even address autism at all.

Second, there is no credible research showing vaccines cause autism. The single study that did has been disproved a long time ago. The article was retracted when the flaws in the research became evident.
Vaccine Study: Autism Link Ripped by Scientists

Third, The amount of aluminum in a vaccine is negligible. It is less than is consumed through the foods we eat daily.

Vaccine Ingredients - Aluminum | Children's Hospital of Philadelphia


Fourth, The website you linked to is a highly questionable website whose purpose is to float health conspiracy junk articles an order to sell "natural" health products. If you want to convince someone of your viewpoint, you need to stick with the science.
be
creative,find commonalities.
 

Thief

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Stevicus

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I've seen several documentaries about bees
several more YouTube vids about caring for them

sensitive creatures

a certain province of China has lost their help
now they dust the flowers of their fruit trees.....by hand
climbing up and down ladders to do so

I've learned to respect bees from an early age. I was stung by a hive of yellow jackets when I was three, and I still remember it like it was yesterday. While yellow jackets are actually a type of wasp, not bees, it still made me wary of any kind of flying stinging insect. I had a similar incident happen to me a few years later, although I didn't get stung as many times.

Around here, I've had to learn to watch out for killer bees. I was walking through a parking lot one day and saw a huge swarm of them flying around a couple of trees, buzzing like crazy. I slowly walked around them, giving them a very wide berth.

I remember when Nickerson Farms restaurants used to have those clear beehives in their lobby. One day we went in and the beehive was gone, with a sign that said "Due to a miscommunication, our bees were accidentally exterminated." And there was a little picture of a bee and "Bee Heaven" written underneath.

If there is such a place as "Bee Heaven," I'll bet you could get a real good buzz.
 

Milton Platt

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Your original post did not single out aluminum as a cause and I was not addressing aluminum one way or the other.
Furthermore, your original post provided a link to a study about bumblebees, not European honey bees.
I think most researchers believe neo-nicotine compounds are the primary culprit as they are very toxic to bees and remain in the environment longer than most previous pesticides. Certainly aluminum or other contaminants in the environment could play a part.

My quibble was that you did not post a link relevant to European honeybees and also, now that you posted this, I would add neither your original post nor the previous link addressed aluminum.

If this was your intent, then you should have said so in the original post.

Although there have been some colony collapses in my area, my own colonies have managed so far.

Aluminium is endemic in the natural environment in feldspar minerals, clay and soil. It is the third most common element is crustal soils. Soil and dust average about 7.3 % aluminium and clay about 30% but it takes moisture and acidity in soil to make the aluminium form aluminium ions and become bioavailable. Aluminium toxicity in plants is directly related to soil ph so it seems sensible to investigate acidity levels affecting the bees’ food sources if that is suspected of being causative of any problems.

Also, there is this from Harvard:
The dwindling population of bees and aluminum levels - Science in the News
 
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leov

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Your original post did not single out aluminum as a cause and I was not addressing aluminum one way or the other.
Furthermore, your original post provided a link to a study about bumblebees, not European honey bees.
I think most researchers believe neo-nicotine compounds are the primary culprit as they are very toxic to bees and remain in the environment longer than most previous pesticides. Certainly aluminum or other contaminants in the environment could play a part.

My quibble was that you did not post a link relevant to European honeybees and also, now that you posted this, I would add neither your original post nor the previous link addressed aluminum.

If this was your intent, then you should have said so in the original post.

Although there have been some colony collapses in my area, my own colonies have managed so far.

Aluminium is endemic in the natural environment in feldspar minerals, clay and soil. It is the third most common element is crustal soils. Soil and dust average about 7.3 % aluminium and clay about 30% but it takes moisture and acidity in soil to make the aluminium form aluminium ions and become bioavailable. Aluminium toxicity in plants is directly related to soil ph so it seems sensible to investigate acidity levels affecting the bees’ food sources if that is suspected of being causative of any problems.

Also, there is this from Harvard:
The dwindling population of bees and aluminum levels - Science in the News
Common thing is lots of aluminum delivered to human bodies. There are number of research reports available, this thing is not PC it harms environment Mr and people. That is what my 20 year research conclusions are. On top of enterprising Aluminum is powerful endocrine disruptor, mimics estrogen.
 

Milton Platt

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Common thing is lots of aluminum delivered to human bodies. There are number of research reports available, this thing is not PC it harms environment Mr and people. That is what my 20 year research conclusions are. On top of enterprising Aluminum is powerful endocrine disruptor, mimics estrogen.

why are we talking about human pathology now? This thread was about bees.
 
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