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Derpy Donny Dollhands has petulant tantrum because Greenland isn't for sale

Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian
The same poster has already suggested putting those people in reservations to build casinos on.
And they wonder why they get called out on the clear racism festering in their ranks.

I fail seeing anything wrong with picturing a Trump tower hotel and casino shawdowing over beautiful little Eskimo shacks in Greenland. ....:D

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Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member
Your sexual fantasies have no place in this debate.

Your the one who seems to thing a polite message was offensive somehow.

Again, it's what he said.

You've never heard of black propaganda (hint: it's not a racial thing) or misinformation have you?

So is postponing a diplomatic visit because a country won't give you its sovereign property.

Meh anyone can cancel at anytime for any reason.

Nope. I equated your defense to defense of an armed robbery.

Same difference.

I'll just quote my earlier post and expose you as a liar.

Go ahead. I'll wait.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Wanderer From Afar
Premium Member
I fail seeing anything wrong with picturing a Trump tower hotel and casino shawdowing over beautiful little Eskimo shacks in Greenland. ....:D

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Your racism is seriously out of hand lately. You should be ashamed. But you need a sense of shame to be ashamed.
 

Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian
Nah, let's kick out all the racist white trash living in trailer parks with no jobs who blame their own problems on non-whites. Mexicans can stay because they're hard working people who add way more to the economy and our culture than the racist trogs.

Anybody, who really does want to work, has a job; the problem here is illegal immigrants have driven down American wages. I'm all in favor of hard working legal immigrants.
 

ImmortalFlame

Woke gremlin
Your the one who seems to thing a polite message was offensive somehow.
Not what I've said. I've said it portrays a petulant attitude and is rude.

You've never heard of black propaganda (hint: it's not a racial thing) or misinformation have you?
Once again, not propaganda. Unless you want to claim Trump is an anti-Trump propagandist. Again (emphasis mine):

"Denmark is a very special country with incredible people, but based on Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen’s comments, that she would have no interest in discussing the purchase of Greenland, I will be postponing our meeting scheduled in two weeks for another time,"

Meh anyone can cancel at anytime for any reason.
But the reason given in this case is that Denmark refused to sell Greenland to America, as stated by Trump above.

Same difference.
No, it isn't. Equating the logic used to defend one even to the same logic being used to defend a different event, thus demonstrating the fallacy inherent in the logic, is not the same as comparing one event to another event wholesale.

To use an analogy (which I am loathe to do, considering that they seem to confuse you a lot):

EVENT: A politician sends an unsolicited picture of themselves naked to a teenager.
LOGIC USED IN DEFENSE: "What is wrong with sending an email?"

EVENT ANALOGY: A teenager goes to a school with dozens of guns and shoots several students.
LOGIC USED IN ANALOGY DEFENSE: "What is wrong with going to school?"

See? It's how you demonstrate the fallaciousness (fallicicity?) of a particular argument - by showing that the same argument can be applied to the defense of an obviously indefensible proposition.

Go ahead. I'll wait.
Note the second paragraph:

If I put a gun to your head and said "Would you kindly hand me your wallet, if you don't mind?", is it not a robbery?

Point is, judge someone by their actions - not their diplomatic use of language. In this instance, Trump is essentially postponing a diplomatic visit in response to not getting what he wants. The fact that he wrote a verbose Tweet about it doesn't change that action into something non-petulant.
 
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Saint Frankenstein

Wanderer From Afar
Premium Member
Anybody, who really does want to work, has a job; the problem here is illegal immigrants have driven down American wages. I'm all in favor of hard working legal immigrants.
Blame the companies that illegally hire them as slave labor. That includes Trump's companies. Yes, your bloated orange hero is a massive hypocrite on this issue, as with so many others.
 

Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member
I've said it portrays a petulant attitude and is rude.

Guess he needs a spanking then.

Once again, not propaganda. Unless you want to claim Trump is an anti-Trump propagandist.

He does love to troll.

But the reason given in this case is that Denmark refused to sell Greenland to America, as stated by Trump above.

The public reason given.

Equating the logic used to defend one even to the same logic being used to defend a different event, thus demonstrating the fallacy inherent in the logic, is not the same as comparing one event to another event wholesale.

Now that some mental gymnastics!

Note the second paragraph:

I did and I will even repost them specifically.

"Point is, judge someone by their actions - "

Ok,- he politely rescheduled

"not their diplomatic use of language."

But his actions and his words match soo.

"In this instance, Trump is essentially postponing a diplomatic visit in response to not getting what he wants."

Denmark will survive. Stout folk they are!

"The fact that he wrote a verbose Tweet about it doesn't change that action into something non-petulant."

And we circle back around to rescheduling is a crime again!
 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
Funny! Have you not considered that perhaps Trump knew something at the time that the public is not aware of and that Denmark will not publicly announce?

Or do you think you have the same data that U.S intelligence agencies are privy to?
If you are looking to secret hidden rational to explain this behaviour I can only assume that you agree that on the surface this appears to be the behaviour of a mad man.

Do you do this with all political leaders when they do something you find strange or just wrong? Did you apply this logic when Obama did something you disagreed with?

As for myself, with the pattern of behaviour we have seen with this President, his ignorance and impulsive irrational behaviour I see no reason to assume this apparently insane behaviour is anything other than just that.
 
Could have been security threats, and the whole "purchase then denial of the purchase" is just a front for not publicly acknowledge the threat. Of course I am just speculating. But things like this occur often in politics. The public us usually unaware.

If you cancel because of security threats you don't say "I'm cancelling cos you won't sell Greenland. Thanks for telling me though so I didn't waste my time going there".

You say you're cancelling for security reasons or if you wish to conceal it make up some generic excuse like 'important domestic issues' rather than saying something odd that annoys the country you were going to visit and paints you in a bad light to most of the world.

Or you know at least pulling their heads out of their own rears and joining the rest of us in reality would help tremendously.

The reality where obsequiously stanning for Trump reflects unbiased objectivism and anyone who doesn't obsequiously stan for Trump is hideously biased and blinded by irrational hatred.

If you asked "the rest of us" the following question: if a country's leader pulled out of a state visit to your nation at short notice because you wouldn't sell him a significant part of your country, would you find it:

a) A bit odd, perhaps even disrespectful
b) Absolutely normal par for the course everyday diplomacy that is beyond reproach

Outside of the Trump stans and their 'objective reality', I wonder what the more common answer would be right across the world and right across the political spectrum...

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Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Why does any country want to keep any of it's sovereign territories? Would it be silly to suggest America sell California to China?

That's not really analogous, since California's status is that of a State, not an outlying territory. This is probably something more akin to selling Guam or the Marianas Islands. Although they still have strategic value to the US and the West, so that would be the only reason for the US maintaining control of those islands.

Greenland also has strategic value, particularly at a time when there appears to be rising tensions with the Russians. Of course, Denmark is part of NATO and the US has a base on Greenland, so we can still benefit from its strategic location without actually controlling the island or its government.

But you missed the other point - this is how America acquired most of its territory anyway - by purchasing it from other countries. Florida was purchased from Spain. The Louisiana Territory was purchased from France. Technically, we even paid Mexico for the territories we acquired after the Mexican War. Alaska was purchased from the Russians.

You ask "Why does any country want to keep any of it's sovereign territories?" But there are numerous examples of countries doing exactly the opposite. Why did they do it? And if they did it before, why not now?
 

ImmortalFlame

Woke gremlin
Guess he needs a spanking then.
Again with the disgusting perversion!

Keep going, daddy.

He does love to troll.
So the comment that you earlier described as:
"Politley saying "thank you but since we are not doing business right now I will push the meeting back a few weeks""
Is now a troll.

Which is it? Was it a polite rescheduling of a meeting or a troll?

The public reason given.
Are you suggesting that there is another reason? What is it?

Also, please note that you are defending the fact that president claimed to be postponing the meeting for petulant reasons by isinuating that there is a more acceptable reason that they're just not telling us for... Reasons.

So, this has now gone from a "polite rescheduling" to a "troll" to a "lie".

Now that some mental gymnastics!
You really don't understand how logical analogies work?

I did and I will even repost them specifically.

"Point is, judge someone by their actions - "

Ok,- he politely rescheduled
Or trolled, or lied, according to you.

"not their diplomatic use of language."

But his actions and his words match soo.
Refusing an invitation to diplomatic meeting because they won't sell you land isn't polite. Soo.

"In this instance, Trump is essentially postponing a diplomatic visit in response to not getting what he wants."

Denmark will survive. Stout folk they are!
See that one flew over your head.

The point isn't that Denmark are upset. It's that you have a petulant, stroppy child for a leader.

"The fact that he wrote a verbose Tweet about it doesn't change that action into something non-petulant."

And we circle back around to rescheduling is a crime again!
The fact that you can't actually acknowledge this event for what it is and have to keep re-framing it this way just proves that you are not debating honestly.

Seriously, just admit that Trump is a idiot already.
 

Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
I admit it, Trump is an idiot, and so are a lot of his supporters!!
 

Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian
Blame the companies that illegally hire them as slave labor. That includes Trump's companies. Yes, your bloated orange hero is a massive hypocrite on this issue, as with so many others.

The before orange Trump and admittedly I myself had hired undocumented workers, but that's not what we are now all about.

 
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Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member
If you are looking to secret hidden rational to explain this behaviour I can only assume that you agree that on the surface this appears to be the behaviour of a mad man.

Nah it just means you don't understand how intelligence agencies work.

Did you apply this logic when Obama did something you disagreed with?

Yes, and to other countries as well. Had Denmark rescheduled at the last second because we decided to not buy Greenland. I wouldn't have thought twice about it.

I see no reason to assume this apparently insane behaviour is anything other than just that.

So you think rescheduling a meeting is insane behavior.

I gotta say. I think that is quite insane.
 

Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member
Again with the disgusting perversion!

You want to make a mountain out of a mole hill here.

Which is it? Was it a polite rescheduling of a meeting or a troll?

It's a mystery!

Are you suggesting that there is another reason? What is it?

Possibly, I can't know that reason though, because I am not in U.S. Intelligence.

So, this has now gone from a "polite rescheduling" to a "troll" to a "lie".

You just can't seem to keep up can ya.

You really don't understand how logical analogies work?

Not with that many mental gymnastics.

Or trolled, or lied, according to you.

Trolling does not equate to lying.

Refusing an invitation to diplomatic meeting because they won't sell you land isn't polite.

Oh so we've gone grom rescheduling to refusing now.

Gotta say that's some odd behavior there.

When's the last time you saw a therapist?

See that one flew over your head

Nope but obviously over yours.

The point isn't that Denmark are upset. It's that you have a petulant, stroppy child for a leader.

Nope we have petulant far left that cry about a polite tweet as being a temper tantrum.

The fact that you can't actually acknowledge this event for what it is and have to keep re-framing it this way just proves that you are not debating honestly.

Hilarious considering the OP reframed a polite tweet as a temper tantrum.

What does that mean about you?

Seriously, just admit that Trump is a idiot already.

Oh he is a brutish oaf.

But he is also hilarious.

I love the way he makes yall squirm!
 

Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian
Whether Trump buys Greenland or our nation trades away some land prone to global warming flooding in exchange for Greenland, all of Greenland's ice could be unfrozen by America in order to unlock all of Greenland's minerals and resources.
 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
Whether Trump buys Greenland or our nation trades away some land prone to global warming flooding in exchange for Greenland, all of Greenland's ice could be unfrozen by America in order to unlock all of Greenland's minerals and resources.
But .... Global warming is a hoax, by the Chinese.

Isn’t it?
 

Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian
But .... Global warming is a hoax, by the Chinese.

Isn’t it?

The Chinese are actually the world's biggest perpetrators of global warming, but please let us not tell the Danes global warming is real; if we are going to get a great deal for Greenland, we wouldn't want the Danes to realize global warming is going to make Greenland green.
 
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