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Also the Great Filter could be something. There might be a "wall" that developing species can't go past without annihilating themselves. Question is are we past this filter or is it in front of us.
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Aliens from Outer Space
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Also the Great Filter could be something. There might be a "wall" that developing species can't go past without annihilating themselves. Question is are we past this filter or is it in front of us.
Ellen Brown
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Just reading an article about how radiation might affect Colonists on Mars. Right now it looks like we won't be going anywhere, and that radiation and other things hostile to life are preventing others coming here?
That is a good question. We may be stuck up against the filter now. At least is seems like we may be.
Well, there could be any number of descriptions of humanity:
"Ugly giant bags of mostly water"
"A dangerous, savage child race"
"You seem to find no tranquillity in anything. You struggle against the inevitable. You thrive on conflict. You are selfish, yet you value loyalty. You are rash, quick to judge, slow to change. It's amazing you've survived. Be that as it may, as species, we have no common ground. You are too aggressive. Too hostile. Too militant."
"Humans have a way of showing up when you least expect them"
"Anatomically, you humans are somewhat simplistic, but what you lack biologically you make up for with your charming optimism, not to mention your egg drop soup."
"The smell must be intolerable."
"Let me tell you something about humans, nephew. They're a wonderful, friendly people as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working. But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time, and those same friendly, intelligent, wonderful people will become as nasty and as violent as the most bloodthirsty Klingon."
"We suspected that an agreement with humans would prove impossible to maintain. You are erratic, conflicted, disorganised. Every decision is debated, every action questioned. Every individual entitled to their own small opinion. You lack harmony, cohesion, greatness. It will be your undoing."
"A dangerous Savage child race." Good description of us at this stage of our development.
But we taste great and even a small one of us can serve a fair-sized gathering. Unless you are talking about those gluttons on Nihlo-3.
We're so tasty, those Kanamits wrote a book about us.
But they don't actually eat us themselves. They feed us to their pets.
What a waste. We are highly nutritious and part of a well-balanced alien diet.
On the up side, they must really love their pets.
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Not to mention we/earth are billions of years younger than millions/billions of other planets. Heck the oldest known planet in our own milky way galaxy has an estimated age of 13 billion years.
Father Heathen
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Somewhere out there are purple zarlaks oppressing green zarlaks, crushing uprisings with steam powered tanks.
But the greens only want more sunlight and the purples ignore their pleas.
I believe that solar radiation would be an issue for a colony on the moon too.
Ellen Brown
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We'd perhaps live underground and make short trips to the surface.
I am a fan of another Missourian that found his fame and fortune as a writer and one of his most famous works is about life on the moon among other things. I just finished reading "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" for like the umpteenth time. In that book, the premise was that life on the moon was mostly underground and you only went out for short periods. It actually still makes a lot of sense as a model for living on the moon. Even if it was fiction.
I'm with some here who believe that life elsewhere is quite likely but the chances of it becoming intelligent and/or travelling vast distances is not so probable. Besides the issues of life developing in the first place, and evolving to become intelligent, even when we know that planets are quite common, we have the essential issue of planet formation and all the debris that seems to result from such. That is, planetary objects colliding and all the debris that then bombards nearby planets. I doubt it is that unusual that asteroid belts like the one we have form to present danger to life. Also, there do appear to be many other dangers tending to wipe out any newly forming life. So it is more about luck than anything else - does a planet have enough safe time for intelligence to develop - and then does it have the ability to protect itself and/or develop the technology to spread further? I'm afraid I'm a bit sceptical of UFO reports. 
And we will look extremely foolish if we had the means to protect ourselves but didn't - given that anything will likely know of our existence or fate.
But we will know.
And we will look extremely foolish if we had the means to protect ourselves but didn't - given that anything will likely know of our existence or fate.
But we will know.
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It's been estimated that there are about 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 (that's 1 billion trillion) stars in the universe, and considering the likelihood that many of them have planets capable of harboring life, some even containing sentient life with an intelligence equal to or greater than our own (no need to bother with the Drake Equation) how likely do you think it is that they could and would visit little ol' Earth?
What's your reasoning?
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Chances of life on other planets, very high. It seems life can form quite spontaneously given the right conditions.
Chances of inteligent life on other planets, depends on your benchmark of intelligence, but i am guessing reasonably high. There are many various levels of intelligence on our planet, i see other planets as being no different. At least some should evolve intelligence equal or greater than our own.
So assume inteligent aliens, the obstacles to obtaining interstellar travel are huge, but consider it done. Chances of them either breaking the light speed barrier or settling down for a multi generation space trip just to see one ball of rock among billions if balls of rock in the universe? How slim is the slimmest thing you can think of? Slimmer than that.
HonestJoe
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[QUOTE="Skwim, post: 6271820, member: 23688”]What's your reasoning?[/QUOTE]It seems highly unlikely to me.
You only need to look at where we are in relation to studying and exploring space. We’ve barely reached out beyond our own atmosphere, still have limited understanding of our own solar system and are literally fumbling in the dark about anything outside that. What is the chance that in the foreseeable future we’d be able to definitively identify another planet currently populated by intelligent life and achieve some form of physical transportation to that planet and back within the span of our and that alien species existence? Why would it be significantly easier for any other intelligent species that might exist?
You only need to look at where we are in relation to studying and exploring space. We’ve barely reached out beyond our own atmosphere, still have limited understanding of our own solar system and are literally fumbling in the dark about anything outside that. What is the chance that in the foreseeable future we’d be able to definitively identify another planet currently populated by intelligent life and achieve some form of physical transportation to that planet and back within the span of our and that alien species existence? Why would it be significantly easier for any other intelligent species that might exist?