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What did our dear rabbi Jesus say that shocked the world with unprecedented knowledge

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Desert Snake

Veteran Member
David J said:
I'm sorry that you feel this is a vague question.
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It isn't vague, thusly one must formulate their own ideas concerning that. [Or, simply not be a christian, so forth.

Some of the Pharisees believed that J-sus was in the religious paradigm of Beezlebub, [like our satan.
 
Riders

Riders

Well-Known Member
David J said:
What did our dear rabbi Jesus say that shocked the world with unprecedented knowledge?

No supernatural magic, that's cheating.
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Well this is a short one sentence thread. When I see someone put up a tiny post like this its usually to make a statement to shock folks then they run off quick.

I think its lazy and somewhat disrespectful just to put up one sentence to shock. I have no idea what your religious views are or what you mean by our dear Rabbi? I've heard Christians, Mormons, Jews, and Muslims use that term and probably Buddhists too. Some believe hes God some don't but can reconcile to the fact that there was a real man named Jesus who was a Rabbi or Messiah type.

So my response to your one sentence thread post just to shock folks is to let you know, it made me sleepy, and it is boring therefore it does not deserve a response.So no comment,
 
David J

David J

Member
Riders said:
Well this is a short one sentence thread. When I see someone put up a tiny post like this its usually to make a statement to shock folks then they run off quick.

I think its lazy and somewhat disrespectful just to put up one sentence to shock. I have no idea what your religious views are or what you mean by our dear Rabbi? I've heard Christians, Mormons, Jews, and Muslims use that term and probably Buddhists too. Some believe hes God some don't but can reconcile to the fact that there was a real man named Jesus who was a Rabbi or Messiah type.

So my response to your one sentence thread post just to shock folks is to let you know, it made me sleepy, and it is boring therefore it does not deserve a response.So no comment,
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Wow. I didn't mean any offense. Please forgive me.
 
David J

David J

Member
Riders said:
Well this is a short one sentence thread. When I see someone put up a tiny post like this its usually to make a statement to shock folks then they run off quick.

I think its lazy and somewhat disrespectful just to put up one sentence to shock. I have no idea what your religious views are or what you mean by our dear Rabbi? I've heard Christians, Mormons, Jews, and Muslims use that term and probably Buddhists too. Some believe hes God some don't but can reconcile to the fact that there was a real man named Jesus who was a Rabbi or Messiah type.

So my response to your one sentence thread post just to shock folks is to let you know, it made me sleepy, and it is boring therefore it does not deserve a response.So no comment,
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It's no disrespect. I can form as many sentences as I want. You need to chill out
 
David J

David J

Member
Riders said:
Well this is a short one sentence thread. When I see someone put up a tiny post like this its usually to make a statement to shock folks then they run off quick.

I think its lazy and somewhat disrespectful just to put up one sentence to shock. I have no idea what your religious views are or what you mean by our dear Rabbi? I've heard Christians, Mormons, Jews, and Muslims use that term and probably Buddhists too. Some believe hes God some don't but can reconcile to the fact that there was a real man named Jesus who was a Rabbi or Messiah type.

So my response to your one sentence thread post just to shock folks is to let you know, it made me sleepy, and it is boring therefore it does not deserve a response.So no comment,
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You don't understand my question? Why is that offensive to you?
 
oldbadger

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
David J said:
What did our dear rabbi Jesus say that shocked the world with unprecedented knowledge?

No supernatural magic, that's cheating.
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Well, I think you've got that wrong.
The people around Jesus thought he was a magi.
I think that can be shown ........... but who wants to read such things?
 
SA Huguenot

SA Huguenot

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Jesus said only one thing.
I am He who created you, and I came to die like a human like you so you can attain everlasting life!
It is called "The Gospel". (Good News that you will not die!)
 
A Vestigial Mote

A Vestigial Mote

Well-Known Member
David J said:
What did our dear rabbi Jesus say that shocked the world with unprecedented knowledge?
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Keep in mind that I am an atheist as I answer this, so I honestly do not care more than as an intellectual exercise - trying to imagine what it was about this man that may gripped the people so.

From the accounts, I would say that if Jesus existed, he seems to have been a person of such a pureness of character that this "good" about him simply dwarfed all those around him into submission to the good. I think what might have shocked and awed them may have been the seemingly unmarred nature of his character. Here was probably one of the only people they had ever encountered who didn't turn to cursing, nor passive-aggressiveness, nor sarcasm, nor mocking or ridicule - and maybe only had dealings with people using words that sounded wise because they came from a place of care/forgiveness/peace/good-will. Granted, he wasn't perfect, and said some things about backing up the old testament, "bringing a sword"etc. - but he only ever did so with a sort of poetic "class" - never with directly disparaging words or curses (again - according to accounts). Some may disagree with me on this... but there are ways to indirectly disparage people without being derogatory. And maybe by the time he was onto the criticism kick, he had already established himself as a man of high moral principle/character and knew how he had to word himself in order to stay there even as he was pointing his finger at people. And he may have been sincere about all of it, and that too would have shown. All around, I think it was just one of those "right place, right time" kind of things.
 
SA Huguenot

SA Huguenot

Well-Known Member
A Vestigial Mote said:
Keep in mind that I am an atheist as I answer this, so I honestly do not care more than as an intellectual exercise - trying to imagine what it was about this man that may gripped the people so.

From the accounts, I would say that if Jesus existed, he seems to have been a person of such a pureness of character that this "good" about him simply dwarfed all those around him into submission to the good. I think what might have shocked and awed them may have been the seemingly unmarred nature of his character. Here was probably one of the only people they had ever encountered who didn't turn to cursing, nor passive-aggressiveness, nor sarcasm, nor mocking or ridicule - and maybe only had dealings with people using words that sounded wise because they came from a place of care/forgiveness/peace/good-will. Granted, he wasn't perfect, and said some things about backing up the old testament, "bringing a sword"etc. - but he only ever did so with a sort of poetic "class" - never with directly disparaging words or curses (again - according to accounts). Some may disagree with me on this... but there are ways to indirectly disparage people without being derogatory. And maybe by the time he was onto the criticism kick, he had already established himself as a man of high moral principle/character and knew how he had to word himself in order to stay there even as he was pointing his finger at people. And he may have been sincere about all of it, and that too would have shown. All around, I think it was just one of those "right place, right time" kind of things.
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keep in mind I an a Bible believing Christian as I reply to your post, so I honestly dont care more than as an intellectual excercise-trying to immagine why it is that you would "Imagine" something about Jesus without even an attempt to find out what He did.
You carry on about Jesus on Moral standards, and how he always spoke so "Holy Moly" hippy like to everyone, without even realising you are not speaking about Jesus at all!
lets see if you even ever attempted to read the Bible!

Mat 23:33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
Mat 23:25 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess.
Mat 23:26 Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also.
Mat 23:27 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.
Mat 23:28 Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.
Mat 23:29 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous,
Mat 12:34 O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.

Matthew 11:20-25,
“Then began he to upbraid the cities wherein most of his mighty works were done, because they repented not: Woe unto thee, Chorazin! woe unto thee, Bethsaida! for if the mighty works which were done in you, had been done in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes. But I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Tyre and Sidon at the day of judgement, than for you. And thou, Capernaum, which art exalted unto heaven, shalt be brought down to hell: for if the mighty works, which have been done in thee, had been done in Sodom, it would have remained until this day. But I say unto you, that it shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom in the day of judgment, than for thee. At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.”

You see, if you dont even know what Jesus say, how can you as an Atheist deny God?
If I were to proclaim the theory of General relativity is rubbish, when I never read the treatice of Einstein, never studdied Physics, or any science, You will be the foirst to call me o stupid fool!
You proclaim God does not exist, yet you have no clue about what is in the Bible?
Will I be correct to call you a viper?
A fool?
a Hypocrite?
Well, rest assure, I wont do it for Jesus calls you just that!

Greetings in the Name of Jesus Christ the one who died for your sin and promised you everlasting life if you listen to His Words he spoke!
 
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