Frank Goad
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If there was no knowledge of the bible(the christianity one) and christianity.Everyone would be going to heaven.Am I the only one that has ever looked at it this way?
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How would a person go to the Christian heaven if Christianity did not exist? One cn not go to heaven without a teaching telling us how to actually do it, Human beings must cultivate mind and body to even have a chance to get to heaven (the bible does not tell that nowadays)If there was no knowledge of the bible(the christianity one) and christianity.Everyone would be going to heaven.Am I the only one that has ever looked at it this way?
How would a person go to the Christian heaven if Christianity did not exist? One cn not go to heaven without a teaching telling us how to actually do it, Human beings must cultivate mind and body to even have a chance to get to heaven (the bible does not tell that nowadays)
The bible we have today have not the part of man must cultivate Mind and body included anymore. But all teachings that lead to paradise or heaven teach that one must oneself cultivate our own mind and body to purify enough to get access to the heavenly realm,Were in the bible does it say this?
In John 3:18 i think it says if you don't know anything about jesus you can't be condemned.
If there was no knowledge of the bible(the christianity one) and christianity.Everyone would be going to heaven.Am I the only one that has ever looked at it this way?
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Everyone is condemned before God but the good news is that there is mercy in the gospel
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Everyone is condemned before God but the good news is that there is mercy in the gospel
I would say that is not a surprise, because why would Jesus judge someone who do not know of himIn John 3:18 i think it says if you don't know anything about jesus you can't be condemned.
If there was no knowledge of the bible(the christianity one) and christianity.Everyone would be going to heaven.Am I the only one that has ever looked at it this way?
I know plenty of decent people who are not Christians. They are far more decent then Christians who set up this heaven and hell system.
St Augustine wrote that 'that which is known as the Christian religion existed among the ancients, and never did not exist.If there was no knowledge of the bible(the christianity one) and christianity.Everyone would be going to heaven.Am I the only one that has ever looked at it this way?
John 3:18 is kind of principle, if person is not responding to God's persuasion (pistis) that person not on his/ her own, not 'regulated' by Christ within , Christ within allows person's own consciousness to do judgement.In John 3:18 i think it says if you don't know anything about jesus you can't be condemned.
In John 3:18 i think it says if you don't know anything about jesus you can't be condemned.
You're saying that if someone didn't know about the gospel they would still be saved even if they were a murderer? That's just not true. All have sinned. It's only the mercy of God that saves anyone.If there was no knowledge of the bible(the christianity one) and christianity.Everyone would be going to heaven.Am I the only one that has ever looked at it this way?
The bible we have today have not the part of man must cultivate Mind and body included anymore. But all teachings that lead to paradise or heaven teach that one must oneself cultivate our own mind and body to purify enough to get access to the heavenly realm,
A Normal person can not access heaven without being pure. But people found it to be very difficult to actually become enlightened so they have at some time (i don't know when) changed the wording to it is enough to believe in od and Jesus, and that Jesus died for the Christians to take their sins. But Jesus did say to follow his teaching would lead to heaven, but that means one must actually do as the teachings say, and change the human mind to be not a sinner.
In John 3:18 i think it says if you don't know anything about jesus you can't be condemned.
Where does it say this in the bible?