Frank Goad
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If there was no knowledge of the bible(the christianity one) and christianity.Everyone would be going to heaven.Am I the only one that has ever looked at it this way?
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Is the bible and christianity a blessing or a curse?Question for all religions
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Spirit of Light
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How would a person go to the Christian heaven if Christianity did not exist? One cn not go to heaven without a teaching telling us how to actually do it, Human beings must cultivate mind and body to even have a chance to get to heaven (the bible does not tell that nowadays)If there was no knowledge of the bible(the christianity one) and christianity.Everyone would be going to heaven.Am I the only one that has ever looked at it this way?
Frank Goad
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Frank Goad
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In John 3:18 i think it says if you don't know anything about jesus you can't be condemned.
Spirit of Light
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The bible we have today have not the part of man must cultivate Mind and body included anymore. But all teachings that lead to paradise or heaven teach that one must oneself cultivate our own mind and body to purify enough to get access to the heavenly realm,Were in the bible does it say this?
A Normal person can not access heaven without being pure. But people found it to be very difficult to actually become enlightened so they have at some time (i don't know when) changed the wording to it is enough to believe in od and Jesus, and that Jesus died for the Christians to take their sins. But Jesus did say to follow his teaching would lead to heaven, but that means one must actually do as the teachings say, and change the human mind to be not a sinner.
Frank Goad
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In John 3:18 i think it says if you don't know anything about jesus you can't be condemned.
What do you think of John 3:18?
whirlingmerc
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If there was no knowledge of the bible(the christianity one) and christianity.Everyone would be going to heaven.Am I the only one that has ever looked at it this way?
No
Everyone is condemned before God but the good news is that there is mercy in the gospel
Frank Goad
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Where does it say this in the bible?
Frank Goad
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Spirit of Light
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I would say that is not a surprise, because why would Jesus judge someone who do not know of himIn John 3:18 i think it says if you don't know anything about jesus you can't be condemned.
So i agree with you here
If there was no knowledge of the bible(the christianity one) and christianity.Everyone would be going to heaven.Am I the only one that has ever looked at it this way?
Christianity is source of confusion, because
“I might believe in the Redeemer if his followers looked more redeemed.” ― Frederick Nietzsche
Hypocrisy takes its toll on those who look upon professing believers and do not see the narration match the play...
leov
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St Augustine wrote that 'that which is known as the Christian religion existed among the ancients, and never did not exist.If there was no knowledge of the bible(the christianity one) and christianity.Everyone would be going to heaven.Am I the only one that has ever looked at it this way?
leov
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John 3:18 is kind of principle, if person is not responding to God's persuasion (pistis) that person not on his/ her own, not 'regulated' by Christ within , Christ within allows person's own consciousness to do judgement.In John 3:18 i think it says if you don't know anything about jesus you can't be condemned.
In John 3:18 i think it says if you don't know anything about jesus you can't be condemned.
I think John sees Jesus as the "Truth". What then condemns a person is the rejection of the truth. You are aware of the truth before you, if you reject the truth that is before you it could only be because you hate the truth. You prefer darkness, evil, lies. So it's not knowledge of the Bible that condemns you, it's your love of darkness.
74x12
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You're saying that if someone didn't know about the gospel they would still be saved even if they were a murderer? That's just not true. All have sinned. It's only the mercy of God that saves anyone.If there was no knowledge of the bible(the christianity one) and christianity.Everyone would be going to heaven.Am I the only one that has ever looked at it this way?
Yes Matthew 16:24
Then Jesus told his disciples, “If anyone would come after me, let him take up his cross and follow me...
Jesus walked a spiritual path. To follow Him meant to live a spiritual life of virtue and not follow the promptings of the self or selfish desires.
In John 3:18 i think it says if you don't know anything about jesus you can't be condemned.
I believe that 2 Thessalonians 1:6-10 answers...
"6 This takes into account that it is righteous on God’s part to repay tribulation to those who make tribulation for you. 7 But you who suffer tribulation will be given relief along with us at the revelation of the Lord Jesus from heaven with his powerful angels 8 in a flaming fire, as he brings vengeance on those who do not know God and those who do not obey the good news about our Lord Jesus. 9 These very ones will undergo the judicial punishment of everlasting destruction from before the Lord and from the glory of his strength, 10 at the time when he comes to be glorified in connection with his holy ones..."
There are two categories of people who are in line for God's adverse judgment...."those who do not know God and those who do not obey the good news about our Lord Jesus."
Those who "do not know God" have chosen not to know him. But 'those who do know him, and yet do not obey his commands', also stand condemned.
Ignorance is no excuse.
whirlingmerc
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Romans 1