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About what God actually "is"

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
When you speak about God, What is this God you describe?

Pretty good question. I try to keep in mind that it could be anything or anyone, including nothing, and point the specifics out whenever possible.

Mostly, though, I think of deities as figures of speech, personifications of transcendence and of specific virtues or qualities.

For whatever reason, "creator of existence" and "uncaused cause" tend not to occur to me. I don't think I would ever spontaneously associate those curious attributes to anyone, real or fictional, had I not learned of them from Abrahamists. They are just not meaningful enough for me to have any use for them.

Do you understand what a God or a Buddha is?

Only when I have created the version of those concepts being used at that specific time.
or is it only faith that they are there that make you believe?
No, I try not to do that. Fortunately, I have very little tendency to be a believer.
 

sealchan

Well-Known Member
When you speak about God, What is this God you describe?
Do you understand what a God or a Buddha is? or is it only faith that they are there that make you believe?

God is an objective, psychological reality. God is our human consciousness itself experienced as a non-subjective reality. God is the belief in our own ultimate existence independent of our individual existence.
 

stvdv

Veteran Member: I Share (not Debate) my POV
1: When you speak about God, What is this God you describe?
2: Do you understand what a God or a Buddha is?
3: or is it only faith that they are there that make you believe?

1: When I speak about God, I mean "That which is beyond words"
"That"
"the Great Unknown"
"Which is the cause of Creation"

2: I do not understand what "a God" is ... To me "God" is "That which is beyond words .. so beyond understanding also"
2: The Buddha is for me the person who transcended body, mind. Free from attachments.

3: "That they are there" is not how I "see/feel/experience" it, because again "it's beyond words"

In CIA Then there is no thought, then there is "no creation", then there is "no cause of Creation", then there is "no God" ... just silence
(CIA = Constant Integrated Awareness)
 

Guitar's Cry

Disciple of Pan
My concept of "God" relates to our connection to the rest of the Universe. We are parts, functions, appendages, pieces of everything else and through our consciousness are able to understand relationships between things. "God" is the total of everything that has led up to "me," the system I find "myself" a part of, and where "I" will melt away into (as if I weren't already) when my consciousness ceases to be.
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
Honestly, I don't tend to speak about God, because with proper case like that the word is a proper noun and therefore specifically refers to the one-god of the Abrahamic religions. I'm not Abrahamic, so that god is not part of my traditions or way of life.

The gods on the other hand are another matter. And of course I understand what the gods are within the context of my own religious tradition. The gods are whatever I choose to call gods - whatever I choose to deify or deem worthy of worship. "God" is just a word that articulates my relationship with those aspects of reality. A title.
 

Pudding

Well-Known Member
When you speak about God, What is this God you describe?
Do you understand what a God or a Buddha is?
God:
1 (in Christianity and other monotheistic religions) the creator and ruler of the universe and source of all moral authority; the supreme being.
2 (in certain other religions) a superhuman being or spirit worshipped as having power over nature or human fortunes; a deity.
2.1 An image, animal, or other object worshipped as divine or symbolizing a god.

Deity:
1 A god or goddess (in a polytheistic religion)
1.2 (usually the Deity) The creator and supreme being (in a monotheistic religion such as Christianity)

Lists of deities - Wikipedia

Buddha:
(often the Buddha)
1 A title given to the founder of Buddhism, Siddartha Gautama (c.563–c.483 BC). Born a prince in what is now Nepal, he renounced wealth and family to become an ascetic, and after achieving enlightenment while meditating, taught all who came to learn from him.
1.1 (as noun a Buddha) Buddhism A person who has attained full enlightenment.

or is it only faith that they are there that make you believe?
I'm not a God-believer.
 
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loverofhumanity

We are all the leaves of one tree
Premium Member
When you speak about God, What is this God you describe?
Do you understand what a God or a Buddha is? or is it only faith that they are there that make you believe?

Hi Amanaki. Always happy when you post because you are always calling us to nobler heights.

To answer your question I can’t really answer in words because it’s a ‘mystical feeling’. My love for the Buddha and all the Manifestations is not a worldly love or attachment but a profound unexplainable mystical peace within. Nirvana comes to mind.

I know Buddha and God exist not via blind faith but I know as in certitude. It’s a conscious knowledge like an awareness that cannot be denied just as the sun at midday.

Like a baby in the womb it has eyes but still they are not functional and so cannot see the outside world and a foetus would always deny that there is another world outside its womb. But when we come forth, that is, we are spiritually born, we see that world, holy and glorious full of many wonderful blessings.

Every person I believe whether quickly or slowly will spiritually awaken as it is part of our nature. We are not cocoons but butterflies.
 

loverofhumanity

We are all the leaves of one tree
Premium Member
When you speak about God, What is this God you describe?
Do you understand what a God or a Buddha is? or is it only faith that they are there that make you believe?

My understanding is that man came to know of the existence of God through extraordinary Beings Who appeared in the world and told us about His existence as well as some of His attributes.

These superhuman Beings were unquestionably possessed of a power that is not of this world. They were usually born into ordinary families, had no formal education, possessed no power or armies yet with Their Words alone subdued and conquered the world!! How amazing! How unbelievable that despite being opposed by powerful and ruthless kings and armies and despite their followers being tortured imprisoned and exiled, They overcame all opposition and won the day.

The truth They taught spread all over the world.

They are living proof of God the undying, unborn Reality.

Yet history shows that no one has been able to emulate Them or even come close. Buddha, Krishna, Moses, Zoroaster, Jesus, Muhammad the Bab and Baha’u’llah- Their influence is unmatched by men. No wealth or power have ever equaled Their feats and accomplishments. They stand out alone and above all men throughout history.

There is no one in history that can compare with These Exalted Beings. None to rival Their wisdom and knowledge. People bow before Their memory because they sense a reality, a holiness far, far beyond the grasp of our limited finite human minds.

Some call it God, others Ultimate Reality or Nirvana but it is something which prompts our inner beings to bow down humbly in worship and we build and dedicate temples, churches, pagodas, mosques and synagogues to this Reality and Truth.

The sad thing is we are all worshipping the same reality yet we do not see this so we group into imaginary ‘us and them’ camps when we are all worshipping the same Reality.
 
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