Riiiight. So where did they house the Roman Soldiers? In the pantry? And fed them bread and water?
You really do need to expand your thinking here.
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It's a green truck -- mismanagement of verses from the Tanakh
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You really do need to expand your thinking here.
sooda
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Most of the Roman soldiers were garrisoned in Syria.. Didn't you know that?
Archaeology confirms the food production systems of the time would not support a large population in Israel and Judea. Educated estimates are around 60,000 in the early kingdom rising to about 300,000 at the end of the period.
You are so fixated in your position.
What in the word does "MOST" mean. They were garrisoned throughout the countries they conquered.
Mark 15:16 Complete Jewish Bible (CJB)
16 The soldiers led him away inside the palace (that is, the headquarters building) and called together the whole battalion.
A battalion is a military unit. The use of the term "battalion" varies by nationality and branch of service. Typically a battalion consists of 300 to 800 soldiers and is divided into a number of companies.
And it wasn't in Syria
sooda
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Syria - Province of the Roman Empire | UNRV.com
https://www.unrv.com/provinces/syria.php
Much like Syria's entire ancient history, it did remain a battleground territory during the Roman era. Serving as a launching point against Parthia, into Judaea and elsewhere, as many as 4 legions were garrisoned in Syria at any one time. Legio III Gallica, VI Ferrata, X Fretensis, XII Fulminata, IIII Scythica and XVI Flavia all saw service prior to the split of the eastern and western empires. With …
The Roman Army of the First Century - The Internet's Only ...
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The Twelfth Legion, Fulminata, stationed near Antioch in Syria, was nearly destroyed in the initial battle of the Judaean revolt. The Tenth Legion Fretensis occupied Judaea after the war. Each legion was divided up into ten cohorts , not of equal size: the first cohort was the largest and contained about 800 men, the others about 500 men each.
sooda
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Which Legion was stationed in/around Jerusalem at the time ...
https://www.quora.com/Which-Legion-was-stationed-in-around-Jerusalem-at-the-time-of...
No legion was.
The Prefects and, later, Procurators who governed Judea were lower level officials of the equestrian class, subordinate to the higher ranking governors of the province of Syria, who were of Senatorial rank. Only a senatorial offici…
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In the year 66, Florus, the last Roman procurator, stole vast quantities of silver from the Temple. The outraged Jewish masses rioted and wiped out the small Roman garrison stationed in Jerusalem. Cestius Gallus, the Roman ruler in neighboring Syria, sent in a larger force of soldiers. But the Jewish insurgents routed them as well.
https://www.quora.com/Which-Legion-was-stationed-in-around-Jerusalem-at-the-time-of...
No legion was.
The Prefects and, later, Procurators who governed Judea were lower level officials of the equestrian class, subordinate to the higher ranking governors of the province of Syria, who were of Senatorial rank. Only a senatorial offici…
continued
In the year 66, Florus, the last Roman procurator, stole vast quantities of silver from the Temple. The outraged Jewish masses rioted and wiped out the small Roman garrison stationed in Jerusalem. Cestius Gallus, the Roman ruler in neighboring Syria, sent in a larger force of soldiers. But the Jewish insurgents routed them as well.
That didn't detract from what I said.
Again... denying what was there doesn't support your position.
74x12
Well-Known Member
Jesus is Israel
sooda
Veteran Member
Christians hijacked the OT verses from Hosea to "prove" Jesus.. Its a shabby thing to do and completely unnecessary.
74x12
Well-Known Member
Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
(John 5:39)
Jews thought they had life because they were descendants of Jacob/Israel. They were wrong. Jesus is the real Israel and the real Life.
The old Israel(Jacob) is dead. Jesus rose from the dead proving He is the head of a new Israel. That is born again from the dead. It lives forever. It's the eternal Israel. Even old Jacob will only be resurrected because Jesus rose first. This means Jesus is the beginning not Jacob.
No one understands the scriptures except God alone. The scriptures are spiritually discerned.
Actually, it was Jewish people that told us. Matthew, Mark, John, Peter, Jude, James and Paul were all Jews.
So you might want to readdress your statement. Remember, the name Christians didn't appear till years later.
sooda
Veteran Member
Spiritually discerned? That's nonsense. Hosea is talking about Israel. Read the whole book of Hosea. He's talking about Israel all the way thru. Who are you to say the Jews got it wrong?
sooda
Veteran Member
The gospels had to embellish the life of Christ and steal from the old scriptures. It wasn't necessary.
Your saying so doesn't change what was written by them. Your opinions doesn't change the biographical letters nor the historical letters.
sooda
Veteran Member
You mean the letters of Paul and Timothy or John of Patmos?
What part of what I wrote didn't you understand? And what letter did Timothy write? Have you read the Bible or even studied it to ask such a question?
74x12
Well-Known Member
So which of the prophets did the people of God (the Hebrews) ever understand or accept in his own life time? And yet you claim they understand now? That's an astounding claim!
And of course it's nonsense to the natural minded person. Because the things of God are foolishness to them and they cannot know them. (1 Corinthians 2:14) So be spiritually discerning because the things that God says to us are "spirit and they are Life". (John 6:63)
Look, the Hebrew nation was completely natural minded from the beginning. They never understood the things of God or accepted them. Only ever a remnant was preserved by the grace of God. (1 Kings 19:18) This is why God knew from the beginning they would not listen or prosper in the Law He gave them. (Deuteronomy 31:19)
Does that mean there is no hope for the Hebrews. Far be it! There is great hope because God gives them a new Covenant as Jeremiah predicted in Jeremiah 31:31-34. This new Covenant is the resurrection. It is new life from the grave.
Jesus is the resurrection and the Life. He is the head the firstborn from the dead. This is how we believe He is the "real" Israel. Because all who are going to be resurrected will be so through Him.
Jacob is the temporary Israel and so his descendants are natural minded and they all die and return to dust from which they came. But whoever is born of Jesus Christ is part of the eternal Israel whether they are Jews or gentiles. All will be one.
sooda
Veteran Member
The Jews wiped out the small Roman garrison in Jerusalem in 66 AD.
sooda
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sooda
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Yeah they were stationed in Antioch under Vespasian..
In Jerusalem...
They kept four cohorts (a cohort was usually 6 centuries of 60-80 soldiers) and some cavalry in Caesarea Maritima, the Roman provincial capital, and one cohort in the fortress Antonia in Jerusalem.
The cohort in Jerusalem was primarily in charge of protecting the fort and the arsenal. The governor came to Jerusalem at major feasts with additional cohorts, which were temporarily quartered in the Praetorium (the governor’s palace).
Roman cohorts normally travelled with battle standards and shrines that honored their gods. However, the troops left these behind when they came to Jerusalem, since Romans (usually) tried to honor the religious customs and gods of their client nations.
Since the “Roman” soldiers in the East were primarily recruited from the Syrian Greeks, they probably spoke Greek as their primary language, not Latin. Their senior officers were probably ethnically Roman or Italian.