ecco
Veteran Member
So, let's look at the possibilities...
- Everything you believe you saw is actually true. South America was one place and now it's another place.
- An old man's memories of things he saw years ago is distorted.
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Mandela Effect Moves South America East
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So, let's look at the possibilities...
ecco
Veteran Member
No big mystery. Our brain "sees" what it thinks it should see. I had to very carefully read your comment several times before I noticed the Flin/Flint difference.
Why your brain can read jumbled letters
Why your brain can read jumbled letters
Tehse wrods may look lkie nosnesne, but yuo can raed tehm, cna't yuo?
LAURA MOSS
June 3, 2015, 1:50 p.m.
Our brains are remarkably good at making sense out of what appears to be nonsense.
How does your brain so quickly make sense of what at first glance is nonsense? Researchers aren’t entirely sure, but they have some suspicions.
Yuo cna porbalby raed tihs esaliy desptie teh msispeillgns.
They think part of the reason the sentence above is readable is because our brains are able to use context to make predictions about what's to come.
That's another reason why good proofreaders are hard to find.Tehse wrods may look lkie nosnesne, but yuo can raed tehm, cna't yuo?
LAURA MOSS
June 3, 2015, 1:50 p.m.
Our brains are remarkably good at making sense out of what appears to be nonsense.
How does your brain so quickly make sense of what at first glance is nonsense? Researchers aren’t entirely sure, but they have some suspicions.
Yuo cna porbalby raed tihs esaliy desptie teh msispeillgns.
They think part of the reason the sentence above is readable is because our brains are able to use context to make predictions about what's to come.
'old man'...lol
You are thinking in a box and not thinking:
3. Reality is better understood as thought (as opposed to physical). Things like alternate timelines and etcetera and other concepts may be real but not easily grasped by our thinking conditioned for a three-dimensional one physical reality.
Mandela Effects may be bleed-throughs to get us thinking.
I am not even challenging what you say above is true in general human word processing.
But I will repeat and hold from my story: Essentially impossible to me that I made a mistake slowly and cautiously each time.
These flip/flops may be happening to people ready to start considering 'reality outside the box'. We may be getting nudged to move to the next level of reality consideration.
If none of these many people experienced Mandela Effects ring with you or since you have never had a personal experience like mine, then I can see sticking with conventional thought 'young man'.
Again, remember I know I make 'normal' memory and reading errors just like everyone else too. I am saying the Mandela Effect is something different.
ecco
Veteran Member
Riiight! Anytime a Wooster talks about woo he always states that the people who don't believe can't believe the woo because:
They can't think outside the box
They are closed-minded
It doesn't matter what the nature of the woo is: Ghosts, gods, aliens examinations, Big Footed critters, lake dwellers, ad infuinitum.
Ahh. Now I realize we've forked away in the road long before this current conversation even started.
Until paradigms shift, never the twain shall meet.
ecco
Veteran Member
Well, there ya go. That should be all the proof any rational person needs - your first-hand anecdote.
Now, if only first hand anecdotes could be considered by the Nobel Co0mittee, you'd be a certain winner. I don't know what the category would be.
You are putting me on - right? You see weird stuff and the reason must be that there is a phenomenon that is starting to occur in the universe and the reason cannot be that, occasionally, your eyes and your brain get out of sync.
But, it's not just you...
The dress - Wikipedia
"The dress" is a photograph that became a viral internet sensation on 26 February 2015, when viewers disagreed over whether the dress pictured was coloured blue and black, or white and gold. The phenomenon revealed differences in human colour perception, which have been the subject of ongoing scientific investigations into neuroscience and vision science, with a number of papers published in peer-reviewed science journals.
If it keeps happening you might want to consult with a really good Neuro-ophthalmologist.
Audie
Veteran Member
And we are so impressed by this, each time.
You must have read with prejudice. I only said that it was convincing to me. Anyone else should have normal doubts. I happen to know me quite well and know I don't make stuff up and my judgment is very level-headed.
I'll repeat myself again. Essentially impossible to me that I made a mistake slowly and cautiously each time.
The dress issue I don't doubt but it is something quite different.
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ecco
Veteran Member
Of course, everyone should have normal doubts. But apparently, you don't. You have NO doubts.
Of course, it's impossible that a Human with a God-given brain could make such a mistake. Only brains that are the result of evolution could make such mistakes.
Of course, it's different. Just keep telling yourself that.
I really wonder why some people have a need to turn toward the supernatural instead of the rational.
Sometimes turning to the rational does strongly suggest the so-called supernatural.
It's a universe we don't understand and so much suggests dramatic mysteries upon honest analysis. That's my logic and ration at work..
Have you ever in your life encountered something that didn't "strongly suggest the so-called supernatural" to you?
Yes, 99.999% of my experiencing is well explained by the physical-only natural.
I haven't quite enough hubris to believe that I know more about the position of a continent than 99.9% of geologists and cartographers over the last couple of centuries.
Tom
So then why are you so reluctant to explain misremembering things as a "physical-only natural" issue with how our brains work?
I am not reluctant. I do always consider normal explanations first. In a few rare cases, I just honestly don't see the mundane as the most reasonable explanation. I also believe others create a force-fit normal explanation for all such mysterious/paranormal things to keep a model of the universe we can somewhat keep our heads around. I have given my personal experience here multiple times with the Flintsones/Flinstones. These things are happening to many people.
My difference from your thinking is that I believe the evidence suggests there are dramatic things we don't yet understand.
Wait a minute.Well, there ya go. That should be all the proof any rational person needs - your first-hand anecdote.
Now, if only first hand anecdotes could be considered by the Nobel Co0mittee, you'd be a certain winner. I don't know what the category would be.
You are putting me on - right? You see weird stuff and the reason must be that there is a phenomenon that is starting to occur in the universe and the reason cannot be that, occasionally, your eyes and your brain get out of sync.
But, it's not just you...
The dress - Wikipedia
"The dress" is a photograph that became a viral internet sensation on 26 February 2015, when viewers disagreed over whether the dress pictured was coloured blue and black, or white and gold. The phenomenon revealed differences in human colour perception, which have been the subject of ongoing scientific investigations into neuroscience and vision science, with a number of papers published in peer-reviewed science journals.
If it keeps happening you might want to consult with a really good Neuro-ophthalmologist.
The last time I saw that pic, the dress was gold and white.
Now it blue and black.
What's up?
Tom
ecco
Veteran Member
There are things we don't understand. There are things we do understand. Your "experiences" fall into the "things we do understand category". You choose to put them into the "things we don't understand" category.
WHY?
I really wonder why some people have a need to turn toward the supernatural instead of the rational.
Well our discussion is caught in circle here. I don't need to turn toward the supernatural/mysterious but in certain (rare) cases I logically and rationally think it is the most likely explanation. The case I gave was a once in a lifetime event that shook me.
And I am certain I also make 'normal' memory errors like everyone else.
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