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Racial GUILT!

Ellen Brown

Well-Known Member
This whole thing is a Muslim viewpoint, if you think about it. I'm just trying to pinpoint this. The Muslims chose a single caliphate, a single race, a single language, from the tip of Africa to the east end of Persia. There were no choosen nationalities. Then religious leaders never called upon the Frankish Race or the German Race or the Scottish Race. Jesus Christ chose to appear for the healing of the Nations. When the Apostle Paul appeared to the Kingdom of Macedon, this was Within the Roman Empire, or more importantly the Byzantine Empire in the Roman Empire that continued to focus on their Nationalities. Jesus Christ Will Not Be Respected by Anyone who does not want to note nationalities. He spoke to a Samarian woman as a Samarian, a Legionaire as a Roman, a Jew as the Chosen people from which comes Salvation, the Faithful Greek, and many think Simon the African crossbearer. Well I'm not going to expect blacks running up to me to recognize the Sam-il independence movement and for Koreans to run up chopping me on the neck to facebook about Martin Luther King Jr. Ahn Chang Ho wanted to meet powerful white imperialist americans with ships, not imitate the break up of the Western Power envisioned by MLK and Ghandi, but fanaticism is al over this movement, that Ahn Chang Ho and this pivota timeperiod has a submemorial at the MLK jr memorial. Totally opposed goal-seeking.

Have it your way...
 

Rise

Well-Known Member
How is it possible to please God in this state?

You speak as though you are living under guilt and condemnation you cannot escape out of. Many scriptures come to mind about this.

And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him.
-Hebrews 11:6

So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
-Romans 8:8

If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness
1 John 1:9

But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, his Son, purifies us from all sin.
-1 John 1:7

For he has rescued us from the dominion of darkness and brought us into the kingdom of the Son he loves,
-Colossians 1:13

Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, the new creation has come: The old has gone, the new is here!
-2 Corinthians 5:17

for you were formerly darkness, but now you are Light in the Lord; walk as children of Light (for the fruit of the Light consists in all goodness and righteousness and truth), trying to learn what is pleasing to the Lord.
-Ephesians 5:8-10

Scripture makes it clear that it is only possible to please God by faith in Christ and and obedience to His Lordship.
Then you can live free of the condemnation of your past and be a new creation in Christ by putting your faith in His sacrifice on behalf of your sin.
 

Ellen Brown

Well-Known Member
You speak as though you are living under guilt and condemnation you cannot escape out of. Many scriptures come to mind about this.

And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him.
-Hebrews 11:6

So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
-Romans 8:8

If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness
1 John 1:9

But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, his Son, purifies us from all sin.
-1 John 1:7

For he has rescued us from the dominion of darkness and brought us into the kingdom of the Son he loves,
-Colossians 1:13

Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, the new creation has come: The old has gone, the new is here!
-2 Corinthians 5:17

for you were formerly darkness, but now you are Light in the Lord; walk as children of Light (for the fruit of the Light consists in all goodness and righteousness and truth), trying to learn what is pleasing to the Lord.
-Ephesians 5:8-10

Scripture makes it clear that it is only possible to please God by faith in Christ and and obedience to His Lordship.
Then you can live free of the condemnation of your past and be a new creation in Christ by putting your faith in His sacrifice on behalf of your sin.

Just lamenting my own lack of perfection. I'm sure we all do that.
 

Epic Beard Man

Bearded Philosopher
No p00p?!?

Jesus man try harder.

I just don't see why you brought up slavery when there was no mention of it, and that Jim Crow, being post slavery didn't warrant the mentioning of it. The rest of your nonsensical post on "whataboutism" need no honorable mention.
 

Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member
I just don't see why you brought up slavery when there was no mention of it, and that Jim Crow, being post slavery didn't warrant the mentioning of it. The rest of your nonsensical post on "whataboutism" need no honorable mention.

I brought up Jim Crow because it's in the OP just fyi so yes it was on topic.

Slavery was brought up because that is apart of the white guilt trip.

There was no "whataboutism". If you think it was whataboutism you didn't comprehend the post then.
 

Epic Beard Man

Bearded Philosopher
I brought up Jim Crow because it's in the OP just fyi so yes it was on topic.

Correction you brought up slavery in depth when the OP didn't even mention slavery. Although Jim Crow is the result of institutional racism prompted from slavery, she made no mention of it in the beginning, you did.

Slavery was brought up because that is apart of the white guilt trip.

Not a guilt trip a fact of American history.

There was no "whataboutism"

You did by mentioning the "what about the first African slave trader" again, whataboutism.
 

Guitar's Cry

Disciple of Pan
I think acknowledging the past and our own propensity for prejudice is important. I don't necessarily think the American individual should feel guilty per se (unless they are racist), just acknowledge that Americans have a shared history related to racism, xenophobia, and imperialism that has destroyed cultures.

I think there's a lot of open wounds and angry bruises that need to be healed, and I think that discussions about it help in the healing.
 
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