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Some of the Trump politics.

Prestor John

Well-Known Member
Huh? what is good about it?
Literally everything listed.

He got us out of horrible deals and agreements.

We aren't the bank of the world or its whipping post anymore.

He continues to fight to keep his promises.

The wall will end the suffering of migrants and keep Americans safe.

I literally see nothing wrong with anything that was listed.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
Literally everything listed.

He got us out of horrible deals and agreements.

We aren't the bank of the world or its whipping post anymore.

He continues to fight to keep his promises.

The wall will end the suffering of migrants and keep Americans safe.

I literally see nothing wrong with anything that was listed.
So for you, it is good USA/Trump pulled out of the nuclear agreement of not making nuclear weapons?
It is good for the American economy that Trump put tariffs on China that make it more expensive form American citizens to live because you do know that since America put tariffs on China they will first of all stop dealing with America, and those things America buy from China will be more expensive for the consumer?
Yeah that is good... Not
 

Prestor John

Well-Known Member
So for you, it is good USA/Trump pulled out of the nuclear agreement of not making nuclear weapons?
Is this a reference to the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty with Russia?

That same agreement that Russia has been violating for at least the past five years (that we know of)?

Russia has developed and subsequently deployed at least three battalions of the Novator 9M729, a ground-launched cruise missile, which is a clear violation of the treaty.

That same agreement that the U.S. has been trying to persuade Russia into coming back into compliance with since 2014?

NATO even went on record stating,

"Unless Russia honours its INF Treaty obligations through the verifiable destruction of all of its 9M729 systems, thereby returning to full and verifiable compliance before the U.S. withdrawal takes effect in six months, Russia will bear sole responsibility for the end of the Treaty."

Statement on Russia's failure to comply with the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces (INF) Treaty, issued by the North Atlantic Council, Brussels, 1 February 2019

Is this the agreement you are referring to?

Why should the U.S. remain true to an agreement that the other side is not keeping?
It is good for the American economy that Trump put tariffs on China that make it more expensive form American citizens to live because you do know that since America put tariffs on China they will first of all stop dealing with America, and those things America buy from China will be more expensive for the consumer?
I know that recent events makes this point moot, but this is a clear example of Trump's "Art of the Deal".

Just like he said, the U.S. is holding all the cards and we had nothing to worry about. He promised that China would succumb to pressure and they have.
Yeah that is good... Not
Your opinion is ignorant and short-sighted in regards to these issues.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
Is this a reference to the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty with Russia?

That same agreement that Russia has been violating for at least the past five years (that we know of)?

Russia has developed and subsequently deployed at least three battalions of the Novator 9M729, a ground-launched cruise missile, which is a clear violation of the treaty.

That same agreement that the U.S. has been trying to persuade Russia into coming back into compliance with since 2014?

NATO even went on record stating,

"Unless Russia honours its INF Treaty obligations through the verifiable destruction of all of its 9M729 systems, thereby returning to full and verifiable compliance before the U.S. withdrawal takes effect in six months, Russia will bear sole responsibility for the end of the Treaty."

Statement on Russia's failure to comply with the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces (INF) Treaty, issued by the North Atlantic Council, Brussels, 1 February 2019

Is this the agreement you are referring to?

Why should the U.S. remain true to an agreement that the other side is not keeping?

I know that recent events makes this point moot, but this is a clear example of Trump's "Art of the Deal".

Just like he said, the U.S. is holding all the cards and we had nothing to worry about. He promised that China would succumb to pressure and they have.

Your opinion is ignorant and short-sighted in regards to these issues.
You rightwing people make me laugh, You really falling for Trump's lies and deceives?
I have never said that Russia does not do wrong. All I say is that I am not afraid of Russia but I start to be afraid of Trump And hope for all it is worth, that he never gets reelected.
Trump is a danger to this world
 

Prestor John

Well-Known Member
You rightwing people make me laugh, You really falling for Trump's lies and deceives?
I have never said that Russia does not do wrong. All I say is that I am not afraid of Russia but I start to be afraid of Trump And hope for all it is worth, that he never gets reelected.
Trump is a danger to this world
So, let me get this straight.

When you are presented with facts that run contrary to your opinion that Trump is making mistakes - you ignore it, mock the person who shared those facts and then double-down on your deranged hatred for your President?

Can you explain how Trump is wrong for backing out of an agreement with Russia that Russia is not keeping?

Does it make sense to you for the U.S. to stifle it's national defense while it's enemies build up their arsenal?

Why doesn't the fact that Russia is building up it's nuclear arsenal frighten you?

Trump is going to be re-elected because he is keeping his campaign promises and his policies work.

The Democrat candidates have nothing to stand on, other than insane Trump-hate based on nothing.

You're going to lose again and it's driving you crazy. Isn't it?
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
So, let me get this straight.

When you are presented with facts that run contrary to your opinion that Trump is making mistakes - you ignore it, mock the person who shared those facts and then double-down on your deranged hatred for your President?

Can you explain how Trump is wrong for backing out of an agreement with Russia that Russia is not keeping?

Does it make sense to you for the U.S. to stifle it's national defense while it's enemies build up their arsenal?

Why doesn't the fact that Russia is building up it's nuclear arsenal frighten you?

Trump is going to be re-elected because he is keeping his campaign promises and his policies work.

The Democrat candidates have nothing to stand on, other than insane Trump-hate based on nothing.

You're going to lose again and it's driving you crazy. Isn't it?
I did not mean to offend you. if i did i am sorry about that.
As a none American Citizen it is easy to see the bad things Trump do because it is on the news mostly every day.
The fact is that Trump is making America worse every day he is in office, He makes your border in the south a hell hole for immigrants and especially children. He constantly lies to the world about his plan to "make America great again" He threatens Iran, North Korea, Syria, And many other countries that do not agree with his agenda. He even threatens the EU if they don't do as he wants them to do.

Trump wants to put weapons on European land to "save" Europe against Russia. Russia is not going to attack Europa, but if Trump keeps pushing he might get a war on his hands.
I am very happy America is reducing their weapons but I am afraid if America keeps making Nuclear bombes or other nuclear weapons, Trump will use them.

Do i have respect for Trump? Yes as a human being i respect him. But not as a President for America.
 

sooda

Veteran Member
Trump repealed environmental protections intended to address anthropogenic climate change. He ended the Clean Power Plan, withdrew from the Paris Agreement on climate change mitigation, and urged for subsidies to increase fossil fuel production, calling man-made climate change a hoax. Trump failed in his efforts to repeal the Affordable Care Act but signed legislation eliminating the individual mandate provision. He enacted a partial repeal of the Dodd-Frank Act that had previously imposed stricter constraints on banks in the aftermath of the 2008 financial crisis and withdrew from the Trans-Pacific Partnership. Trump signed the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017, which lowered corporate and estate taxes permanently, and lowered most individual income tax rates temporarily. Trump's policies have been projected to add $4 trillion to the national debt by 2029, including almost $2 trillion from the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act. He enacted tariffs on steel and aluminum imports and other goods, triggering retaliatory tariffs from Canada, Mexico and the European Union, and a trade war with China.

Trump's "America First" foreign policy has featured more unilateral American actions, disregarding the advice and support of many traditional allies while drawing the United States closer to others like Saudi Arabia and Israel.[4] Trump's administration agreed to sell 110 billion dollars of arms to Saudi Arabia, recognized Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, withdrew the United States from the Iran Deal, and issued a controversial executive order denying entry into the U.S. to citizens from several Muslim-majority countries. The Trump administration unilaterally decided to hold talks with North Korea and imposed tariffs on Chinese imports after pressuring China to change longstanding trade practices.[4] Trump's demand for federal funding of a U.S.–Mexico border wall resulted in the 2018–2019 government shutdown (the longest in American history) and followed with Trump's declaration of a national emergency regarding the U.S. southern border. He ended the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program. The Trump administration enforced a "zero tolerance" policy of detaining families entering the U.S at the U.S.–Mexico border and controversially separating parents from their children, resulting in national and international outcry.
Link to this is here
Presidency of Donald Trump - Wikipedia

Personally i would not call this a job well done by the President of America

Trump took credit but had nothing to do with arms sales to Arabia.
 

sooda

Veteran Member
I would say Trump actually reads things that come across his desk. Not the, "You have to pass it to see what's in it" mentality that the Socialist Democrats possess.

I'd wager there were plenty of earmarks shimmied in that would prompt Trump to pull out of these so called 'agreements'.

No.. Trump doesn't read.
 

SA Huguenot

Well-Known Member
I did not mean to offend you. if i did i am sorry about that.
As a none American Citizen it is easy to see the bad things Trump do because it is on the news mostly every day.
The fact is that Trump is making America worse every day he is in office, He makes your border in the south a hell hole for immigrants and especially children. He constantly lies to the world about his plan to "make America great again" He threatens Iran, North Korea, Syria, And many other countries that do not agree with his agenda. He even threatens the EU if they don't do as he wants them to do.

Trump wants to put weapons on European land to "save" Europe against Russia. Russia is not going to attack Europa, but if Trump keeps pushing he might get a war on his hands.
I am very happy America is reducing their weapons but I am afraid if America keeps making Nuclear bombes or other nuclear weapons, Trump will use them.

Do i have respect for Trump? Yes as a human being i respect him. But not as a President for America.
I dont understand?
All these things!
Why do you perceive it as wrong?
It is the right things to do for any country on this earth!
Oh, I forgot, it is wrong only because Trump now enforces it.
Long Live Trump.
God bless America, and their people.
May not one illegal immmigrant enter the USA illegally,
may not a single coyote rape another child,
May not a single drug trafficer get his dope on US soil.
May the wall streach from the Carribean to the Pacific before 2024
may not a single Muslim killer enter the USA.
may all the lied to brainwashed Liberal Democrats open theri eyes and realise how they were lied to by the press and the Dems.
may socialist and communist values melt and sink into the hard working soil of the USA,
God bless you all
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
I dont understand?
All these things!
Why do you perceive it as wrong?
It is the right things to do for any country on this earth!
Oh, I forgot, it is wrong only because Trump now enforces it.
Long Live Trump.
God bless America, and their people.
May not one illegal immmigrant enter the USA illegally,
may not a single coyote rape another child,
May not a single drug trafficer get his dope on US soil.
May the wall streach from the Carribean to the Pacific before 2024
may not a single Muslim killer enter the USA.
may all the lied to brainwashed Liberal Democrats open theri eyes and realise how they were lied to by the press and the Dems.
may socialist and communist values melt and sink into the hard working soil of the USA,
God bless you all

You really do not see that Trump is a threat to the world do you?
In the news today it say Trump want to buy Greenland from Denmark?????? The economy in America is not great and here he want to spend billions of dollars on an island? Why?
Do you not understand why Europe would become a slave to America if we lett him put weapons on our soil?
 

SA Huguenot

Well-Known Member
You really do not see that Trump is a threat to the world do you?
In the news today it say Trump want to buy Greenland from Denmark?????? The economy in America is not great and here he want to spend billions of dollars on an island? Why?
Do you not understand why Europe would become a slave to America if we lett him put weapons on our soil?
What a great idea.
The USA bought Alaska from Russia, and got a lot of gas and oill.
What a bargain.
The US bought the french territories, hawai, and many more land which made them who they are today.
Go Trump!
Gee this guy is amaizing!
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
What a great idea.
The USA bought Alaska from Russia, and got a lot of gas and oill.
What a bargain.
The US bought the french territories, hawai, and many more land which made them who they are today.
Go Trump!
Gee this guy is amaizing!
If he is so great, why does he have only a 44% approval rate in the American people? good president would have a lot more than 50% of the people behind him.
Why is America really close to recession and a total failure of the economy? The stock exchange is going down as never before in America, and unfortunately, that hurt the stock exchange in many other countries too
 

sooda

Veteran Member
Is this a reference to the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty with Russia?

That same agreement that Russia has been violating for at least the past five years (that we know of)?

Russia has developed and subsequently deployed at least three battalions of the Novator 9M729, a ground-launched cruise missile, which is a clear violation of the treaty.

That same agreement that the U.S. has been trying to persuade Russia into coming back into compliance with since 2014?

NATO even went on record stating,

"Unless Russia honours its INF Treaty obligations through the verifiable destruction of all of its 9M729 systems, thereby returning to full and verifiable compliance before the U.S. withdrawal takes effect in six months, Russia will bear sole responsibility for the end of the Treaty."

Statement on Russia's failure to comply with the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces (INF) Treaty, issued by the North Atlantic Council, Brussels, 1 February 2019

Is this the agreement you are referring to?

Why should the U.S. remain true to an agreement that the other side is not keeping?

I know that recent events makes this point moot, but this is a clear example of Trump's "Art of the Deal".

Just like he said, the U.S. is holding all the cards and we had nothing to worry about. He promised that China would succumb to pressure and they have.

Your opinion is ignorant and short-sighted in regards to these issues.

Have you read Art of the Deal?
 
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