Spiderman
Veteran Member
I can think of countless times where I didn't just reject the Catholic Church. I passionately hated the Catholic Church and the Bible!
On not a single of those occasions was I aware that I was rejecting the truth.
Since I know from personal experience that a person can hate Christianity, hate the Bible, hate the God of the Bible, and be an atheist, totally unaware that they are rejecting "God", or "Truth", that convinces me that most people who reject Jesus, Christianity, or the Bible, are not aware they are rejecting God or truth.
So, my question for hell believers, does a person deserve eternal separation from God, eternal misery without hope for the future, because of a crime they were unaware of committing?
If I died in high school I would have died a criminal, violent felon, thief, blasphemer, full of anger, a druggy, drunkard, jealous, lover of pleasure, covetous fornicator, sadist, and proud atheist.
Would I have gone to hell?
Not fair, because a few years later, at the age of twenty, I developed compassion and started sacrificing my time and energy to help other people. I also began praying all the time and volunteered at a mission that fed hundreds of poor people everyday in New York.
I think many of the people that died young and stupid or many of the people who died unrepentant, hateful, or died atheists, would not have died in that state if given more time on Earth, or if God would simply speak a clear sentence to them once every ten years or something.
I think if God spoke one clear sentence to everyone tommorow, and it was an answer to a question each person always had, I think there be more than 99.9% of our world Theists (of those old enough to reason).
The atheists would be those who thought the message was insanity. Those people would see the massive amounts of mass-conversions due to the same voice on the same day speaking to everyone, that few would remain atheist.
If that same voice began telling each person what to avoid to experience various rewards in this life and the next, most people would at least give it a shot is my guess.
There would be some who genuinely despise God and hate the voice, but my guess is they would be a tiny percentage of the world, and they might be contenders with God like Jacob, who "fought with God and won" in the Old Testament, rather than straight up atheists.
Problem is, God wants atheists, heretics, pagans, and other systems of beliefs, or he'd speak up like that. So, if he leaves countless people in sins they aren't aware they are committing, what is his reason for doing so, and how on Earth are those people at fault?
Isn't God more at fault for their sins than they are? God for one is aware that they are sinning, not them. God can stop the sin, not them. God could correct and instruct them and refuses to, making God responsible for the sin more than the sinner!
On not a single of those occasions was I aware that I was rejecting the truth.
Since I know from personal experience that a person can hate Christianity, hate the Bible, hate the God of the Bible, and be an atheist, totally unaware that they are rejecting "God", or "Truth", that convinces me that most people who reject Jesus, Christianity, or the Bible, are not aware they are rejecting God or truth.
So, my question for hell believers, does a person deserve eternal separation from God, eternal misery without hope for the future, because of a crime they were unaware of committing?
If I died in high school I would have died a criminal, violent felon, thief, blasphemer, full of anger, a druggy, drunkard, jealous, lover of pleasure, covetous fornicator, sadist, and proud atheist.
Would I have gone to hell?
Not fair, because a few years later, at the age of twenty, I developed compassion and started sacrificing my time and energy to help other people. I also began praying all the time and volunteered at a mission that fed hundreds of poor people everyday in New York.
I think many of the people that died young and stupid or many of the people who died unrepentant, hateful, or died atheists, would not have died in that state if given more time on Earth, or if God would simply speak a clear sentence to them once every ten years or something.
I think if God spoke one clear sentence to everyone tommorow, and it was an answer to a question each person always had, I think there be more than 99.9% of our world Theists (of those old enough to reason).
The atheists would be those who thought the message was insanity. Those people would see the massive amounts of mass-conversions due to the same voice on the same day speaking to everyone, that few would remain atheist.
If that same voice began telling each person what to avoid to experience various rewards in this life and the next, most people would at least give it a shot is my guess.
There would be some who genuinely despise God and hate the voice, but my guess is they would be a tiny percentage of the world, and they might be contenders with God like Jacob, who "fought with God and won" in the Old Testament, rather than straight up atheists.
Problem is, God wants atheists, heretics, pagans, and other systems of beliefs, or he'd speak up like that. So, if he leaves countless people in sins they aren't aware they are committing, what is his reason for doing so, and how on Earth are those people at fault?
Isn't God more at fault for their sins than they are? God for one is aware that they are sinning, not them. God can stop the sin, not them. God could correct and instruct them and refuses to, making God responsible for the sin more than the sinner!