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PETA vs Irwin, the next generation

SomeRandom

SomeRandom

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PETA have never really liked Steve Irwin. Tbh I’ve never liked PETA. I prefer other animal rights groups.

And while I’ll admit his, er, up close and personal style of animal presenting was controversial, he never meant any harm. Enthusiastic involvement is all he knew and it helped engage an apathetic public to want to protect very dangerous scary wildlife. PETA constantly denounced him in life, even as he opened sanctuaries and championed wildlife causes.

Now his son Robert (who I swear is exactly like a mini Steve) has irked PETA yet again by bringing on his animals onto Jimmy Fallon’s talk show (like ages ago, but still) and PETA are once again in dispute with the Irwin’s. While I sympathise that animals shouldn’t be trotted out and should always be safely handled.
Part of my Aussie pride wants PETA to lose just on principle alone.

PETA is going after Robert Irwin and Jimmy Fallon for animal cruelty
 
BSM1

BSM1

What? Me worry?
Revoltingest said:
I've always liked the name though...
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A state wildlife manager friend of mine told me a story of a meeting he had to attend between PETA and local farmers. Coyotes had moved into the western part of our state and were attacking and eating sheep. The farmers were demanding that the state take action to eradicate these pests. One well dressed lady (he said) representing PETA stood up and made a somewhat flowery speech about being an animal lover. She then proposed that the state not kill the coyotes but capture them, neuter them, and release them back into the wild. About then, my friend told me, a farmer in bib overalls stood up, spit some tobacco juice into an empty Coke can and said, "Ma'am, we're animal lovers, too but you don't seem to understand; the coyotes are killing our sheep, not (bleeping) them"
 
Saint Frankenstein

Saint Frankenstein

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PETA is an awful organization run by an extremist lunatic so no one should care about what they have to say. They're just good at marketing. Groups like Mercy for Animals deserve support more, if you must support a vegan animal rights group. Personally, I prefer animal welfare orgs and not rights groups, since the latter tend to be more radical and ridiculous in their philosophy and aims. For example, the PETA nutters are opposed to even owning pets, or zoos or keeping livestock. Support your local no-kill shelters, ASPCA and Humane Society instead. The Humane Society is usually doing the investigating, anyway, since they're like cops.
 
Twilight Hue

Twilight Hue

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SomeRandom said:
PETA have never really liked Steve Irwin. Tbh I’ve never liked PETA. I prefer other animal rights groups.

And while I’ll admit his, er, up close and personal style of animal presenting was controversial, he never meant any harm. Enthusiastic involvement is all he knew and it helped engage an apathetic public to want to protect very dangerous scary wildlife. PETA constantly denounced him in life, even as he opened sanctuaries and championed wildlife causes.

Now his son Robert (who I swear is exactly like a mini Steve) has irked PETA yet again by bringing on his animals onto Jimmy Fallon’s talk show (like ages ago, but still) and PETA are once again in dispute with the Irwin’s. While I sympathise that animals shouldn’t be trotted out and should always be safely handled.
Part of my Aussie pride wants PETA to lose just on principle alone.

PETA is going after Robert Irwin and Jimmy Fallon for animal cruelty
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I think the late Steve Irwin literally and poetically fulfilled his own prophecies by disturbing and pestering animals through his famous exclamation, "Crikey, I almost died doing that"!
The epitome of a life lived in full 360°.

That's said all and all, I do feel he was a passionate albeit reckless animal lover and they say the apple typically doesn't fall far from the tree. Enter Steve's son*.

The only good thing about PETA is the female nudity, noting their reckless nature as animals lovers, oftentimes parralls the life of Steve Irwin in an ironic twist for which in the case of PETA , it's the humans not the animals they end up pestering.

To paraphrase,

"Crikey, the animal died horribly because of you"!

Like Steve , PETA is pretty much the epitome of crazy and notably insane in their 'noble' cause as an advocate of animals.

I suppose it was inevitable that the two would eventually cross paths, and take up instinctive defensive posturing as their counterparts in the wild, as they hiss at each other eyeing for a chance to strike or escape.

*And daughter as well when I think about it.
 
SomeRandom

SomeRandom

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Nowhere Man said:
I think the late Steve Irwin literally and poetically fulfilled his own prophecies by disturbing and pestering animals through his famous exclamation, " Crikey, I almost died doing that"!

That's said all and all, I do feel he was a passionate albeit reckless animal lover and they say the apple typically doesn't fall far from the tree. Enter Steve son*.

The only good thing about PETA is the female nudity, noting their reckless nature as animals lovers, oftentimes parralls the life of Steve Irwin in an ironic twist for which in the case of PETA it's the humans not the animals they end up pestering.

To paraphrase,

"Crikey, the animal died horribly because of you"!

Like Steve , PETA is pretty much the epitome of crazy and notably insane in their 'noble' cause as an advocate of animals.

I suppose it was inevitable that the two would eventually cross paths, and take up instinctive defensive posturing as their counterparts in the wild, as they hiss at each other eyeing for a chance to strike or escape.

*And daughter as well when I think about it.
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His death was actually more of a freak accident.
Stingrays are not especially aggressive but if it perceives a potential threat, it will sting you. It could have just as easily happened to a random swimmer and does still happen occasionally.

Steve might have appeared reckless on camera, but he really wasn’t. A little too enthusiastic sometimes, but not out and out reckless. He was always keenly aware that he had a family to return home to.
He was clearly trained in handling venomous and aggressive wildlife. Albeit a little “rough around the edges.” Meaning he learnt with hands on experience rather than formal polish. So I suppose he may have agitated animals at first. But he used agreed upon handling techniques, as far as I’m aware.
But not many Australians would stop to help a snake off a road. Or relocate a croc instead of killing it.

PETA meanwhile has a basket of alleged dirty laundry. So I remain skeptical of it’s ultimate intentions. Not so much the individual members, I’m sure they mean well. But the organisation itself. Say what you want about the croc hunter, but you can point to legitimate effective ways he helped preserve animals.
PETA meanwhile. I mean they have nude adverts I guess.
 
HonestJoe

HonestJoe

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SomeRandom said:
PETA have never really liked Steve Irwin. Tbh I’ve never liked PETA. I prefer other animal rights groups.
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I’m also not a general fan of PETA but I think they have a valid point here. It doesn’t seem right for wild animals to be taken to TV studios and used as tools for entertainment and promotion in this way. Viewing them in a well-managed and intended animal park or from a reasonable distances in their natural habitats wouldn’t be an issue but, of course, that would cost them more money.
 
SomeRandom

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
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HonestJoe said:
I’m also not a general fan of PETA but I think they have a valid point here. It doesn’t seem right for wild animals to be taken to TV studios and used as tools for entertainment and promotion in this way. Viewing them in a well-managed and intended animal park or from a reasonable distances in their natural habitats wouldn’t be an issue but, of course, that would cost them more money.
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Yeah I’m divided on the animals on stage. They’re normally somewhat sedated and it seems exploitive. But at the same time, that’s literally how Steve got people to care about them in the first place. So this is pretty much how the Irwin’s preserve wildlife.
PETA doesn’t even have an “ends justify the means” deniability to fall back on. They seem to be the annoying vegans that make other vegans rethink their stance on hurting other creatures lol
 
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