Samana Johann
Restricted by request
Simple not a serious discussion, investigation... here. Just defends to try to make lack of effort to a virtue.
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Is sexuality a choice?
- Thread starter Dan Mellis
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I did and gave the quoted location of said information.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
If that's your measurement, even heterosex can be harmful.
Do you only talk about those things that are convenient for you at the expense of the whole quote?
I highlighted the areas you decided not to see. Are you saying these are "not harmful"?
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
Who made you arbiter of virtue?
In certain cases, I suppose it can be. Can you give me an example?
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
STIs, for one. Irritation and damage to penis and vagina are possible if it's too dry. Penile fractures are also a possibility.
Dan Mellis
Thorsredballs
I've already accepted that these are harmful. They're also treatable.
Here's what you're doing.
Crossing the road increases the risk of getting hit by a car.
Getting hit by a car is harmful
Therefore, crossing the road is harmful
Can you see why your stance is illogical?
HonestJoe
Well-Known Member
Homosexuality doesn’t equal anal sex. Plenty of homosexuals don’t engage in anal sex at all (plus an entire sub-set can’t without mechanical assistance
) and plenty of heterosexuals do. There is actually very little sexual activity homosexuals can engage in that heterosexuals can’t and don’t.The biggest risk by far comes from sex with multiple unknown partners and not taking appropriate precautions. A gay man in a steady monogamous relationship will be infinity safer than a straight man sleeping around with lots of strangers. That’s why the demonization of homosexuals and the discouragement (indeed, outright restrictions) on their establishing settled long-term relationships has been so counterproductive.
Dan Mellis
Thorsredballs
You have misrepresented those facts, and I have corrected you on that. Come up with some evidence that isn't reliant on everyone ignoring the second half of it.
Dan Mellis
Thorsredballs
Homosexuality doesn’t equal anal sex. Plenty of homosexuals don’t engage in anal sex at all (plus an entire sub-set can’t without mechanical assistance
The biggest risk by far comes from sex with multiple unknown partners and not taking appropriate precautions. A gay man in a steady monogamous relationship will be infinity safer than a straight man sleeping around with lots of strangers. That’s why the demonization of homosexuals and the discouragement (indeed, outright restrictions) on their establishing settled long-term relationships has been so counterproductive.
Long term settled relationships aren't the only answer though. Safe sex and sex positivity is.
Dan Mellis
Thorsredballs
Actually, using the logic he's applying, hetero sex is harmful...
His argument seems to be
A is bad
B can, but does not necessarily cause A
Therefore B is harmful.
Dan Mellis
Thorsredballs
No. Just the refusal to engage in bigotry based on non-arguments and fairies in the sky.
could you quote your site please.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
I didn't get those from a single site or source, but rather over numerous sources that I have taken in over the years. I probably didn't even learn of them from online sources.
not applicable.
One is an accident... one is on purpose.
Using your type of logic... Smoking increases cancer but cancer is treatable and you can even get a lung transplant... but hey... but smoking cigarettes is not the problem because other people get cancer anyway.
Not at all... I simply quoted. Ignoring real science is a flat-earth mentality.
Guitar's Cry
Disciple of Pan
Make that four. Having gay sex doesn't make someone gay. Assuming it does is as illogical as male teenagers saying "no homo" everytime they assert emotions towards another guy.
Dan Mellis
Thorsredballs
Are you suggesting that people with aids intend to catch it? Of course catching aids is an accident. Gay sex isn't, but neither is crossing a road. Nobody chooses to get hit by a car.
Dan Mellis
Thorsredballs
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No, you quoted from a single source and applied it using a biased and flawed logic.
Yknow, the same as how flat earthers use the fact that you can't see the curve to suggest that there isn't one.