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American children brought guns to school in the 1950's!

Terry Sampson

Well-Known Member
Why are they so unhappy ?

From Op-Ed: We have studied every mass shooting since 1966. Here's what we've learned about the shooters
  • "First, the vast majority of mass shooters in our study experienced early childhood trauma and exposure to violence at a young age. The nature of their exposure included parental suicide, physical or sexual abuse, neglect, domestic violence, and/or severe bullying. The trauma was often a precursor to mental health concerns, including depression, anxiety, thought disorders or suicidality."
  • Second, practically every mass shooter we studied had reached an identifiable crisis point in the weeks or months leading up to the shooting. They often had become angry and despondent because of a specific grievance. For workplace shooters, a change in job status was frequently the trigger. For shooters in other contexts, relationship rejection or loss often played a role. Such crises were, in many cases, communicated to others through a marked change in behavior, an expression of suicidal thoughts or plans, or specific threats of violence.
School shooters usually show these signs of distress long before they open fire, research shows
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
But there were no school shootings before Columbine in America and all those children brought hunting rifles and shotguns to school in the 1950s. The guns were there. The young people were there.
What made the children with guns in the 1950's NOT go ballistic?
There is no correlation between prayers and school shootings.
Prayers are a waste of time - action is needed, education and control
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
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Mindmaster

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
But there were no school shootings before Columbine in America and all those children brought hunting rifles and shotguns to school in the 1950s. The guns were there. The young people were there.
What made the children with guns in the 1950's NOT go ballistic?

It's not that they didn't go ballistic, it's just that the times were so different. They were even much different when I grew up in the 80's. For example, there was none of the political hate between parties - people voted for whoever they wanted and still hung out. They'd make fun of each others candidate if they didn't like them, but it wasn't personal. Now, you have this perpetual outrage machine created by Internet conglomerates and places like online forums. This enmity drives the violence you see now -- most of which is politically motivated. If you think the person who votes for the other party is human garbage you've been duped by the corporations who profiteer on your misery and use the outburst of violence to take away even more of your rights. It's not about morality, doing the right thing, or whatever as the media will keep telling you.

It used to be simpler too -- if you didn't like a guy and you had a beef you'd just box. Win or lose, that was over.... No one even thought of using a gun or knife in settling the beef. Reminds me of a fight I had in school with a bully -- I punched him to the floor and he hit me back in the jaw then we got stopped by a teacher. But, that fight was truly over -- I neither **** talked him, nor him me ever again. Kids these days get expelled for that type of thing, but in retrospect the encounter was good for us both; I got left alone, and the larger bully kid knew the little guy had a punch and whatever he was going to say wasn't worth it.

There is no "vent" for this energy now, so imagine storing that up all of your young adult years -- most people get over it, but a few snap. It's just to be expected. It's going to get worse and worse so long as we keep dehumanizing people and not letting them take care of things on a much more basic level.
 

Jonathan Bailey

Well-Known Member
There is no correlation between prayers and school shootings.
Prayers are a waste of time - action is needed, education and control
There were children, schools and guns then. There are children, schools and guns now. What changed in 60 some years?

There were so fewer gun restrictions in the 1950's so firearms must have had easier availability (accessibility) even then.


What CAUSES mass shootings?

 
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Jonathan Bailey

Well-Known Member
There were children, schools and guns then. There are children, schools and guns now. What changed in 60 some years?
There were children, schools and guns then. There are children, schools and guns now. What changed in 60 some years?

There were so fewer gun restrictions in the 1950's so firearms must have had easier availability (accessibility) even then.


What CAUSES mass shootings?


No, not GUNS, stupid!

BUZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.......wrong answer
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
There were children, schools and guns then. There are children, schools and guns now. What changed in 60 some years?

There were so fewer gun restrictions in the 1950's so firearms must have had easier availability (accessibility) even then.


What CAUSES mass shootings?

So are you really saying that the lack of prayers or video games are the reason for more killings?
 

Jonathan Bailey

Well-Known Member
So are you really saying that the lack of prayers or video games are the reason for more killings?
I would say more lack of in-person socialization more than anything else.
It's a psychological and social issue.

The arcade gaming industry is really the devil's workshop in promoting violence.

So is rap music.

Today's youth aren't raised as us baby-boomers were.

CNN is glorifying mass shootings by broadcasting it so much nationally. It's inspiring new recruits deprived of family love and attention to do even more nasty things to make even new headlines.

Don't feed the trolls?
Well mass media, don't feed more troubled minds with more mass shootings by harping on them.
Keep them to local news only like a 7-11 robbery or a city park mugging.
 
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Saint Frankenstein

Wanderer From Afar
Premium Member
America had domestic abuse and drunkenness in the 1950s.
And segregation, lynchings, interracial marriage was illegal, black people couldn't really vote in the South, homosexuality was illegal and despised, etc. You'd have to be insane to think the '50s were great. I'm positive the OP is just a troll, anyway.
 

sooda

Veteran Member
I would say more lack of in-person socialization more than anything else.
It's a psychological and social issue.

The arcade gaming industry is really the devil's workshop in promoting violence.

So is rap music.

Today's youth aren't raised as us baby-boomers were.

CNN is glorifying mass shootings by broadcasting it so much. It's inspiring new recruits deprived of family love and attention to do even more nasty things to make new headlines.

Other countries also have video games, genius.
 

Jonathan Bailey

Well-Known Member
Since when are GUNS "violent" anyway?
They ought to execute those guilty automobiles for drunk driving and killing people.
For your heinous crime, Mr. Ford Taurus, you will endure the state of New York's car crusher until you are a small block of steel and other mingled materials. May God have mercy on your oil pan.
 

sooda

Veteran Member
Since when are GUNS "violent" anyway?
They ought to execute those guilty automobiles for drunk driving and killing people.
For your crime, Mr. Ford Taurus, you will endure the car crusher until you are a small block of steel and other mingled materials.

You really don't know the difference, do you?
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
I would say more lack of in-person socialization more than anything else.
It's a psychological and social issue.

The arcade gaming industry is really the devil's workshop in promoting violence.

So is rap music.

Today's youth aren't raised as us baby-boomers were.

CNN is glorifying mass shootings by broadcasting it so much nationally. It's inspiring new recruits deprived of family love and attention to do even more nasty things to make even new headlines.

Don't feed the trolls?
Well mass media, don't feed more troubled minds with more mass shootings by harping on them.
Keep them to local news only like a 7-11 robbery or a city park mugging.
I'm 60+; you sound like my mum did 55 years ago.
"The Rolling Stones are bad", "Teddy boys are bad", "Leather jackets should not be worn", "Your skirt is too short"

Today's youth are normally great.
 

Ellen Brown

Well-Known Member
Sound shocking?

Number of American school shootings before Columbine?

ZERO

A priest was talking on EWTN Catholic radio this morning in Oklahoma.
The discussion was about these new-age mass shootings.

Anyway, when the priest's father was a boy, the children took their shotguns to school during hunting season.

They went pheasant hunting after class. He said America was totally under God then. There was a sense of being moral, godly, upright and wholesome.

Young people, these gunmen on CNN of today, are diseased souls totally away from God. It's not the guns, it's the want of being well-bred. It's social decay and bad homes for children. Technology is isolating us from being human. Electronic things are a total distraction. They have gotten our better half. It's introverting our young. America is a death culture. A smartphone or an arcade game is a psychological brick wall all around people. It's a closed shell, a bubble.


The priest on the radio said his public school had opening and closing prayers.

I was born in '47, so started school in '53. So, around '57 a boy brought his .22 rifle to school for "Show and Tell". Dundee, Oregon was very rural then. I'd been bussed from Ladd Hill. There was no thought of anyone getting shot. The teacher put his rifle in her closet until school was over. No big deal.

And yes, at first we opened school with a prayer, and the saying of the Pledge of Allegiance. It used to have "Under God" in it but some time in the late 50's it was removed, I think due to the efforts of Madeline Murray O'hare? Her son later disavowed his mother...

This is not the world I was born into and I dislike it. Can you imagine living for 969 years?
 
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