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Mother God

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1213

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susanblange said:
There are a lot of OT scriptures that identify the God of Abraham as a woman. The strongest argument I have is Jeremiah 33:15-18. "...and this is the name wherewith she shall be called, The Lord our righteousness. For thus saith the Lord; David shall never want a man to sit upon the throne of the house of Israel..." The ignorant will say that the "she" refers to the city of Jerusalem. The word Lord is in capital letters meaning it's translated from the Tetragrammaton. It's blasphemous to equate that to a city. It is the holiest name of God. Jeremiah 23:5-6 says the same thing almost verbatim except it says "he". Cities are always referred to in the female gender.
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Jeremiah 23:5-6 is speaking of a king. King is obviously a male. If the ruler would be female, he would be called queen.

Jeremiah 33:15-18 is interesting, because some translations have “he” (for example Young’s literal), instead of “she”.

I think they both are speaking of righteous king, Jesus.

Bible tells God is spirit and love. I think that is more important than the gender.

God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth.
John 4:24

He who doesn't love doesn't know God, for God is love.
1 John 4:8

Bible also calls God father. But I think that is in spiritual sense, not physically. And I think it is interesting question what is female and man in spiritual sense. Often it seems females lust for power, they want to be worshiped and they love themselves not others, everything is or should be for them. Men often seem to be the opposite they actually have the power and they use it for their family. Perhaps I have seen bad examples, but it is really interesting how differently men and women think. However, I think in the case of God, he is Father, because He is the one who gives, not the one who receives.
 
Jainarayan

Jainarayan

ॐ नमो भगवते वासुदेवाय
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PopeADope said:
Do you believe God is just as much a tender mother as a loving father? (If you believe in God)
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twameva mātā ca pitā twameva
twameva bandhush ca sakhā twameva
twameva vidyā dravinam twameva
twameva sarvam mama deva deva

You truly are my mother and You truly are my father.
You truly are my kindred and You truly are my friend.
You truly are my knowledge and You truly are my wealth.
You truly are my all, my God of Gods. - Queen Gandhari to Krishna, Mahābhārata.
 
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susanblange

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1213 said:
Jeremiah 23:5-6 is speaking of a king. King is obviously a male. If the ruler would be female, he would be called queen.

Jeremiah 33:15-18 is interesting, because some translations have “he” (for example Young’s literal), instead of “she”.

I think they both are speaking of righteous king, Jesus.

Bible tells God is spirit and love. I think that is more important than the gender.

God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth.
John 4:24

He who doesn't love doesn't know God, for God is love.
1 John 4:8

Bible also calls God father. But I think that is in spiritual sense, not physically. And I think it is interesting question what is female and man in spiritual sense. Often it seems females lust for power, they want to be worshiped and they love themselves not others, everything is or should be for them. Men often seem to be the opposite they actually have the power and they use it for their family. Perhaps I have seen bad examples, but it is really interesting how differently men and women think. However, I think in the case of God, he is Father, because He is the one who gives, not the one who receives.
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I only read the KJV and that translation will help with your understanding. I take the scriptures at their plain, literal meaning. God is neither and both male and female. A Queen is subservient to a King and The Lord is not subservient to anyone.
 
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susanblange

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robocop (actually) said:
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has a little talked about doctrine that there is a woman God, but they are not one God it is a man God and woman God married just like we do it.
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God is a husband and a wife and they are one flesh. Genesis 2:24. Isaiah 54:5-6. The earliest word for God, Elohim, is a majestic plural. God is Energy and the Lord is a person.
 
robocop (actually)

robocop (actually)

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susanblange said:
God is a husband and a wife and they are one flesh. Genesis 2:24. Isaiah 54:5-6. The earliest word for God, Elohim, is a majestic plural. God is Energy and the Lord is a person.
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When men and women marry they are one flesh, but that doesn't mean they are a single person!
 
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susanblange

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robocop (actually) said:
When men and women marry they are one flesh, but that doesn't mean they are a single person!
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There is only one God and we were all created in his image and likeness. Deuteronomy 6:4. Hear O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord". Christianity is not monotheistic. They believe in three different personalities in one God. Their god suffers from a multiple personality disorder. There is more to God than the Lord/Messiah. God is Energy and the Forces in nature. Gravitation, Electromagnetism, and the Nuclear forces. Daniel 11:38. "But in his estate shall he honor the God of forces..." Energy is eternal, it cannot be created or destroyed, it can only change form. It is also omnipresent and is manifest everywhere in the Universe. It is also omnipotent.
 
robocop (actually)

robocop (actually)

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susanblange said:
There is only one God and we were all created in his image and likeness. Deuteronomy 6:4. Hear O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord". Christianity is not monotheistic. They believe in three different personalities in one God. Their god suffers from a multiple personality disorder. There is more to God than the Lord/Messiah. God is Energy and the Forces in nature. Gravitation, Electromagnetism, and the Nuclear forces. Daniel 11:38. "But in his estate shall he honor the God of forces..." Energy is eternal, it cannot be created or destroyed, it can only change form. It is also omnipresent and is manifest everywhere in the Universe. It is also omnipotent.
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God is who allows a Universe to exist. One God. All powerful God.
God is who we can trace back our Universe's creation too. Another God but they are both all powerful and because of the way they exist they are one God together.
Jesus, I would wager, is supreme leader. Another God but they are all omnipotent and because of the way they exist they are one God together.
Holy Ghost, how people get more understanding...
 
Aupmanyav

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
Thirza Fallen said:
.. but I do like the idea of a creator and creatrix (is that a word?) since it takes two to create.
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'Purusha' and 'Prakriti' in Hindu 'Samkhya' philosophy.

"Samkhya is strongly dualist. Sāmkhya philosophy regards the universe as consisting of two realities, puruṣa (consciousness) and prakṛti (matter). Jiva (a living being) is that state in which puruṣa is bonded to prakṛti in some form. This fusion, state the Samkhya scholars, led to the emergence of buddhi ("intellect") and ahamkāra (ego consciousness). The universe is described by this school as one created by purusa-prakṛti entities infused with various combinations of variously enumerated elements, senses, feelings, activity and mind."
Samkhya - Wikipedia
susanblange said:
Leviticus 4:32. "And if he bring a lamb for a sin offering, he shall bring it a female without blemish". Malachi 1:14. "But cursed be the deceiver, which hath in his flock a male, and voweth and sacrificeth unto the Lord a corrupt thing..."
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Why does the sacrifice always has to be a female?
robocop (actually) said:
.. but they are not one God it is a man God and woman God married just like we do it.
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We do more than that. Don't we?
 
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Sand Dancer

Sand Dancer

Crazy Cat Lady
Aupmanyav said:
'Purusha' and 'Prakriti' in Hindu 'Samkhya' philosophy.

"Samkhya is strongly dualist. Sāmkhya philosophy regards the universe as consisting of two realities, puruṣa (consciousness) and prakṛti (matter). Jiva (a living being) is that state in which puruṣa is bonded to prakṛti in some form. This fusion, state the Samkhya scholars, led to the emergence of buddhi ("intellect") and ahamkāra (ego consciousness). The universe is described by this school as one created by purusa-prakṛti entities infused with various combinations of variously enumerated elements, senses, feelings, activity and mind."
Samkhya - Wikipedia
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Man, I gotta learn more about Hinduism. Sounds like my kinda religion in many ways.
 
Guitar's Cry

Guitar's Cry

Disciple of Pan
Aupmanyav said:
That is true, but is that the correct way? There are other more truthful ways. :)
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There always are. :)

I look out my bedroom window and see a field bounding with life that spent a summer growing. Plants, insects, arachnids...all will be dead soon, but for now they are living, worshipping the various gods of the brief Universe they know through feasting, copulating, fighting, sacrificing themselves to the soil.

God is in the relationship, pushing, pulling, teasing life out of the Universe and being there as symbols for what we need to grow.
 
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susanblange

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robocop (actually) said:
God is who allows a Universe to exist. One God. All powerful God.
God is who we can trace back our Universe's creation too. Another God but they are both all powerful and because of the way they exist they are one God together.
Jesus, I would wager, is supreme leader. Another God but they are all omnipotent and because of the way they exist they are one God together.
Holy Ghost, how people get more understanding...
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You have made my point for me, Robo.
 
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