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NC School Allows Christian Preachers to Target Kids During Lunch Hour

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
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"Lunch period is supposed to be a time when students can go to the cafeteria and catch up with their friends.

That’s not what happened last year at Hope Middle School in Greenville, North Carolina. Apparently, students there were regularly approached by Christians eager to catch new converts.

The Freedom From Religion Foundation says that members of WyldLife, a branch of the proselytizing Christian group Young Life that targets pre-teens, were permitted to preach to kids during their lunch periods once a week while collecting their contact information. That information was later used to speak with the kids outside of school hours.

In a letter send to Pitt County Schools Superintendent Dr. Ethan Lenker, FFRF made it clear this was plainly illegal:


“It is well settled that public schools may not advance or promote religion,” FFRF Senior Counsel Patrick Elliot writes to Pitt County Schools Superintendent Ethan Lenker. “Moreover, ‘the preservation and transmission of religious beliefs and worship is a responsibility and a choice committed to the private sphere,’” as the U.S. Supreme Court has said.


“Giving a Christian proselytizing group privileged entry to a public school flies in the face of constitutional propriety,” says FFRF Co-President Annie Laurie Gaylor. “It is inappropriate to allow any outside adults access to a captive audience of young students — much less to invite in missionaries.”
This isn’t even complicated. No Muslim or Satanic or atheist groups would be allowed to do the exact same thing these Christians were permitted to do. And because we’re talking about children, the school has an even greater responsibility to protect them from religious zealots eager to find new blood.

You wouldn’t teach a child to step into a stranger’s white van, and the adults at this school shouldn’t teach kids to join a religion that promotes the idea of eternal torture for non-believers. By allowing these preachers access to kids during the school day, they were sending a message that becoming a Christian is a good idea.

FFRF wants an explanation for how this happened and a promise that such preaching will be shut down as the new school year begins.
source
What the Hell is wrong with southern Christians?---this is far from the first time they purposely flaunted the law to promote their religion. Are they truly as brain dead as they appear?

Let me ask all the good Christians here on RF. Are these imbecilic Christians at all an embarrassment to you or your religion?

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I think this is fake news.

I don't believe these Christians stand up and start preaching to all that are at lunch. I don't believe that only "Christian groups" have the "privileged entry".

FFRF is a known bullying group.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
I think this is fake news.

I don't believe these Christians stand up and start preaching to all that are at lunch. I don't believe that only "Christian groups" have the "privileged entry".

FFRF is a known bullying group.
Can you please show some evidence to support your claim about FFRF? Simply claiming a group that defends people's rights is "bullying" does not stand on its own.
 

BilliardsBall

Veteran Member
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"Lunch period is supposed to be a time when students can go to the cafeteria and catch up with their friends.

That’s not what happened last year at Hope Middle School in Greenville, North Carolina. Apparently, students there were regularly approached by Christians eager to catch new converts.

The Freedom From Religion Foundation says that members of WyldLife, a branch of the proselytizing Christian group Young Life that targets pre-teens, were permitted to preach to kids during their lunch periods once a week while collecting their contact information. That information was later used to speak with the kids outside of school hours.

In a letter send to Pitt County Schools Superintendent Dr. Ethan Lenker, FFRF made it clear this was plainly illegal:


“It is well settled that public schools may not advance or promote religion,” FFRF Senior Counsel Patrick Elliot writes to Pitt County Schools Superintendent Ethan Lenker. “Moreover, ‘the preservation and transmission of religious beliefs and worship is a responsibility and a choice committed to the private sphere,’” as the U.S. Supreme Court has said.


“Giving a Christian proselytizing group privileged entry to a public school flies in the face of constitutional propriety,” says FFRF Co-President Annie Laurie Gaylor. “It is inappropriate to allow any outside adults access to a captive audience of young students — much less to invite in missionaries.”
This isn’t even complicated. No Muslim or Satanic or atheist groups would be allowed to do the exact same thing these Christians were permitted to do. And because we’re talking about children, the school has an even greater responsibility to protect them from religious zealots eager to find new blood.

You wouldn’t teach a child to step into a stranger’s white van, and the adults at this school shouldn’t teach kids to join a religion that promotes the idea of eternal torture for non-believers. By allowing these preachers access to kids during the school day, they were sending a message that becoming a Christian is a good idea.

FFRF wants an explanation for how this happened and a promise that such preaching will be shut down as the new school year begins.
source
What the Hell is wrong with southern Christians?---this is far from the first time they purposely flaunted the law to promote their religion. Are they truly as brain dead as they appear?

Let me ask all the good Christians here on RF. Are these imbecilic Christians at all an embarrassment to you or your religion?

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Praise Jesus! Thanks for sharing how God will bless that school!
 

A Vestigial Mote

Well-Known Member
The sun circles the earth and God can dim sunlight, turn it to dark, spread it like a floodlight or narrow it like a spotlight, and He adjusts or fine tunes sunshine for the seasons.
Examples are when God plunged Egypt into total darkness for three days yet He provided light where Israel's children lived in Goshen. Ex 10:22
God decrease sunlight to dim/dark for three hours while His Son was shedding His blood to atone for our lawlessness.
Mt 27:45.
In Joshua 10, the sun stood still, and in 2 Kings 20:11 the sun went backwards.
God's History Book reveals the earth is stationary and the Sun circles above.
What a strange thing to bring up as a response to on-topic posts in this thread. But, I have to hand it to you - it handily displays the frightening dangers of allowing religious people to bring their unsupported theistic ideas to the youth unchecked. Hopefully people like you can serve as examples of cautionary tales imparting "how not to be/act/think."
 

David1967

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
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"Lunch period is supposed to be a time when students can go to the cafeteria and catch up with their friends.

That’s not what happened last year at Hope Middle School in Greenville, North Carolina. Apparently, students there were regularly approached by Christians eager to catch new converts.

The Freedom From Religion Foundation says that members of WyldLife, a branch of the proselytizing Christian group Young Life that targets pre-teens, were permitted to preach to kids during their lunch periods once a week while collecting their contact information. That information was later used to speak with the kids outside of school hours.

In a letter send to Pitt County Schools Superintendent Dr. Ethan Lenker, FFRF made it clear this was plainly illegal:


“It is well settled that public schools may not advance or promote religion,” FFRF Senior Counsel Patrick Elliot writes to Pitt County Schools Superintendent Ethan Lenker. “Moreover, ‘the preservation and transmission of religious beliefs and worship is a responsibility and a choice committed to the private sphere,’” as the U.S. Supreme Court has said.


“Giving a Christian proselytizing group privileged entry to a public school flies in the face of constitutional propriety,” says FFRF Co-President Annie Laurie Gaylor. “It is inappropriate to allow any outside adults access to a captive audience of young students — much less to invite in missionaries.”
This isn’t even complicated. No Muslim or Satanic or atheist groups would be allowed to do the exact same thing these Christians were permitted to do. And because we’re talking about children, the school has an even greater responsibility to protect them from religious zealots eager to find new blood.

You wouldn’t teach a child to step into a stranger’s white van, and the adults at this school shouldn’t teach kids to join a religion that promotes the idea of eternal torture for non-believers. By allowing these preachers access to kids during the school day, they were sending a message that becoming a Christian is a good idea.

FFRF wants an explanation for how this happened and a promise that such preaching will be shut down as the new school year begins.
source
What the Hell is wrong with southern Christians?---this is far from the first time they purposely flaunted the law to promote their religion. Are they truly as brain dead as they appear?

Let me ask all the good Christians here on RF. Are these imbecilic Christians at all an embarrassment to you or your religion?

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I just hope it's not these guys;
 

Sand Dancer

Crazy Cat Lady
I misread the article. There's a huge difference in the maturity level between High School Students and Middle School Students. I don't favor anybody proselytizing to those who haven't reached the age of pubescence.

Parents should have the right to keep these folks from trying to brainwash the kids. That's despicable.
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
Seems like the group is targeting a loophole in what is consider during "school" hours. Think of after school clubs.
When the article points out

"Christian group Young Life that targets pre-teens, were permitted to preach to kids during their lunch periods"

it doesn't look like it,

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Sand Dancer

Crazy Cat Lady
I think this is fake news.

I don't believe these Christians stand up and start preaching to all that are at lunch. I don't believe that only "Christian groups" have the "privileged entry".

FFRF is a known bullying group.

FFRF is fighting dominionist Christians from trying to make our country fundamentalist Christian. I wholeheartedly support them. Right wing Christianity has gotten too many free passes and we need to stop this.
 

sooda

Veteran Member
It's in eastern NC near UNC, which is probably why the group is so eager to proselytize before they get to college.

Thanks.. I am only familiar with Greenville, SC. I don't like these people. If parents have taken or sent their kids to church or Sunday school or Synagogue or mosque that's their call.. I was very open with my children. Two are Presbyterians and one is a Catholic.. and my adopted children are Baptist and Jewish.. but I'd pitch a fit if they were creeping up on the kids in middle school lunch room.
 

Jainarayan

ॐ नमो भगवते वासुदेवाय
Staff member
Premium Member
God's History Book reveals the earth is stationary and the Sun circles above.

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sooda

Veteran Member
FFRF is fighting dominionist Christians from trying to make our country fundamentalist Christian. I wholeheartedly support them. Right wing Christianity has gotten too many free passes and we need to stop this.

Good grief. The Dominionists are a seriously ignorant bunch.
 

QuestioningMind

Well-Known Member
Please let us not overly concern ourselves with High School students who wish to interact with a Christian fellowship group during their own personal lunch time.


First off, they are middle school students, not high school. Second, IF a parent isn't taking steps to expose their child to religion OUTSIDE of school, why the heck would the school district decide to expose them while at school? And if the parents ARE exposing their kids to religion outside of school, why the heck do they need to be introduced to it at school?
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
FFRF is fighting dominionist Christians from trying to make our country fundamentalist Christian. I wholeheartedly support them. Right wing Christianity has gotten too many free passes and we need to stop this.
Yes.... every side has radicals. I can see where you are coming from
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Yes.... every side has radicals. I can see where you are coming from

Since I know you all to well this appear to be a backhanded attack against the FFRF. If that is the case then:



Tell me, how does ensuring that people obey the law "radical"? You seem to have some very strange definitions of words. FFRF is hardly radical.
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
Since I know you all to well this appear to be a backhanded attack against the FFRF. If that is the case then:



Tell me, how does ensuring that people obey the law "radical"? You seem to have some very strange definitions of words. FFRF is hardly radical.
Bullying is one thing... standing up for rights is another. I stand for the rights of people not to have religion forced on them.
 
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David1967

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
I think this is fake news.

I don't believe these Christians stand up and start preaching to all that are at lunch. I don't believe that only "Christian groups" have the "privileged entry".

FFRF is a known bullying group.

I hope your right, but it is NC. I just watched a video of a snake-handling cult from there. That was beyond bizarre.
 
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