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NC School Allows Christian Preachers to Target Kids During Lunch Hour

Salvador

Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian
sooda said:
Where you come from High School is called Middle School?
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I misread the article. There's a huge difference in the maturity level between High School Students and Middle School Students. I don't favor anybody proselytizing to those who haven't reached the age of pubescence.
 
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Skwim

Skwim

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In my home city, and at my school in particular, "Junior high" now encompasses grades 5-8. When I went to school it was 7-8. High school is still 9-12. And since grades 5 and 6 now occupy the same building as grades 7-12, "Junior High" has been dropped in favor of "Middle School,"( grades 5-8).

Boy! leave town for a few years and the whole educational system falls apart.
 
Salvador

Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian
Father Heathen said:
No, not on my tax dollars. As a father I would not appreciate these creeps trying to indoctrinate my child.
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Sorry, I misread the article, I thought the report was about High School students rather than Middle School students getting proselytized.
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

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Heyo said:
Not nice.
They are wrong, criminally wrong. But that is no excuse to insult them.
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That sounded more like an apt description than an insult. Breaking the law to promote your religious beliefs runs contrary to what the Bible teaches. Jesus himself knew that there was a time and a place for his teachings. Please note that he was not referring to all Christians that way.
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

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Skwim said:
In my home city, and at my school in particular, "Junior high" now encompasses grades 5-8. When I went to school it was 7-8. High school is still 9-12. And since grades 5 and 6 now occupy the same building as grades 7-12, "Junior High" has been dropped in favor of "Middle School,"( grades 5-8).

Boy! leave town for a few years and the whole educational system falls apart.
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My experience was slightly different. We had both "Junior High" of grades 7-9 and "Senior High" of grades 10-12. But they were both in the same building. Graduating classes were over 150 students and under 200.

At any rate this is a lawsuit begging to happen. Odds are that a letter will be written and the school lawyer will say "What the @#$#@ were you thinking?"
 
Robert Quist

Robert Quist

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Skwim said:
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"Lunch period is supposed to be a time when students can go to the cafeteria and catch up with their friends.

That’s not what happened last year at Hope Middle School in Greenville, North Carolina. Apparently, students there were regularly approached by Christians eager to catch new converts.

The Freedom From Religion Foundation says that members of WyldLife, a branch of the proselytizing Christian group Young Life that targets pre-teens, were permitted to preach to kids during their lunch periods once a week while collecting their contact information. That information was later used to speak with the kids outside of school hours.

In a letter send to Pitt County Schools Superintendent Dr. Ethan Lenker, FFRF made it clear this was plainly illegal:


“It is well settled that public schools may not advance or promote religion,” FFRF Senior Counsel Patrick Elliot writes to Pitt County Schools Superintendent Ethan Lenker. “Moreover, ‘the preservation and transmission of religious beliefs and worship is a responsibility and a choice committed to the private sphere,’” as the U.S. Supreme Court has said.
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“Giving a Christian proselytizing group privileged entry to a public school flies in the face of constitutional propriety,” says FFRF Co-President Annie Laurie Gaylor. “It is inappropriate to allow any outside adults access to a captive audience of young students — much less to invite in missionaries.”​
This isn’t even complicated. No Muslim or Satanic or atheist groups would be allowed to do the exact same thing these Christians were permitted to do. And because we’re talking about children, the school has an even greater responsibility to protect them from religious zealots eager to find new blood.

You wouldn’t teach a child to step into a stranger’s white van, and the adults at this school shouldn’t teach kids to join a religion that promotes the idea of eternal torture for non-believers. By allowing these preachers access to kids during the school day, they were sending a message that becoming a Christian is a good idea.

FFRF wants an explanation for how this happened and a promise that such preaching will be shut down as the new school year begins.
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What the Hell is wrong with southern Christians?---this is far from the first time they purposely flaunted the law to promote their religion. Are they truly as brain dead as they appear?

Let me ask all the good Christians here on RF. Are these imbecilic Christians at all an embarrassment to you or your religion?

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Robert Quist

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Subduction Zone said:
That sounded more like an apt description than an insult. Breaking the law to promote your religious beliefs runs contrary to what the Bible teaches. Jesus himself knew that there was a time and a place for his teachings. Please note that he was not referring to all Christians that way.
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The sun circles the earth and God can dim sunlight, turn it to dark, spread it like a floodlight or narrow it like a spotlight, and He adjusts or fine tunes sunshine for the seasons.
Examples are when God plunged Egypt into total darkness for three days yet He provided light where Israel's children lived in Goshen. Ex 10:22
God decrease sunlight to dim/dark for three hours while His Son was shedding His blood to atone for our lawlessness.
Mt 27:45.
In Joshua 10, the sun stood still, and in 2 Kings 20:11 the sun went backwards.
God's History Book reveals the earth is stationary and the Sun circles above.
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Robert Quist said:
The sun circles the earth and God can dim sunlight, turn it to dark, spread it like a floodlight or narrow it like a spotlight, and He adjusts or fine tunes sunshine for the seasons.
Examples are when God plunged Egypt into total darkness for three days yet He provided light where Israel's children lived in Goshen. Ex 10:22
God decrease sunlight to dim/dark for three hours while His Son was shedding His blood to atone for our lawlessness.
Mt 27:45.
In Joshua 10, the sun stood still, and in 2 Kings 20:11 the sun went backwards.
God's History Book reveals the earth is stationary and the Sun circles above.
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You have that backwards. The Bible demonstrates that it is not "God's word". That is just one of the countless errors of the Bible. But the endless mistakes in your book of myths is not the topic of this thread. The topic is the illegal activity of a school
 
Skwim

Skwim

Veteran Member
Robert Quist said:
The sun circles the earth and God can dim sunlight, turn it to dark, spread it like a floodlight or narrow it like a spotlight, and He adjusts or fine tunes sunshine for the seasons.
Examples are when God plunged Egypt into total darkness for three days yet He provided light where Israel's children lived in Goshen. Ex 10:22
God decrease sunlight to dim/dark for three hours while His Son was shedding His blood to atone for our lawlessness.
Mt 27:45.
In Joshua 10, the sun stood still, and in 2 Kings 20:11 the sun went backwards.
God's History Book reveals the earth is stationary and the Sun circles above.
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Hmmm.... there seems to be a
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in our midst. Welcome, I think, to Religious Forums.

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Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

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Heyo said:
I guess I need to get acustommed to the tone here. Were I come from that post would have been deleted.
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Are you trying to deny that there are no Christians that fit that description? One can even find atheists that can be described in such a manner.

If one makes a personal attack against another poster here that would lead to trouble. Pointing out that people obviously breaking the law are acting like fools is perfectly fine.

And welcome to the forums. What forums have you hung out at?
 
Heyo

Heyo

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Subduction Zone said:
Are you trying to deny that there are no Christians that fit that description? One can even find atheists that can be described in such a manner.
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Nope. I was just a bit irritated by the harsh language towards that group of Christians. But if that is permissible here, I have no problem with it.

And welcome to the forums. What forums have you hung out at?
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The Religion Channel on Disqus. But Disqus has announced to shut down all Channels next month. Now I and many others are looking for a new home.
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

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Heyo said:
Nope. I was just a bit irritated by the harsh language towards that group of Christians. But if that is permissible here, I have no problem with it.


The Religion Channel on Disqus. But Disqus has announced to shut down all Channels next month. Now I and many others are looking for a new home.
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At least that is much better than the old Topix website. That one was supposedly moderated but sadly that was not the case. I had already abandoned that one largely for this one when it died.
 
Heyo

Heyo

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Not all channels were that well moderated on Disqus which led to a lot of complains. Instead of closing those channels or employing moderators themselves, they shut down all channels.
 
Shad

Shad

Veteran Member
Skwim said:
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"Lunch period is supposed to be a time when students can go to the cafeteria and catch up with their friends.

That’s not what happened last year at Hope Middle School in Greenville, North Carolina. Apparently, students there were regularly approached by Christians eager to catch new converts.

The Freedom From Religion Foundation says that members of WyldLife, a branch of the proselytizing Christian group Young Life that targets pre-teens, were permitted to preach to kids during their lunch periods once a week while collecting their contact information. That information was later used to speak with the kids outside of school hours.

In a letter send to Pitt County Schools Superintendent Dr. Ethan Lenker, FFRF made it clear this was plainly illegal:


“It is well settled that public schools may not advance or promote religion,” FFRF Senior Counsel Patrick Elliot writes to Pitt County Schools Superintendent Ethan Lenker. “Moreover, ‘the preservation and transmission of religious beliefs and worship is a responsibility and a choice committed to the private sphere,’” as the U.S. Supreme Court has said.
…

“Giving a Christian proselytizing group privileged entry to a public school flies in the face of constitutional propriety,” says FFRF Co-President Annie Laurie Gaylor. “It is inappropriate to allow any outside adults access to a captive audience of young students — much less to invite in missionaries.”​
This isn’t even complicated. No Muslim or Satanic or atheist groups would be allowed to do the exact same thing these Christians were permitted to do. And because we’re talking about children, the school has an even greater responsibility to protect them from religious zealots eager to find new blood.

You wouldn’t teach a child to step into a stranger’s white van, and the adults at this school shouldn’t teach kids to join a religion that promotes the idea of eternal torture for non-believers. By allowing these preachers access to kids during the school day, they were sending a message that becoming a Christian is a good idea.

FFRF wants an explanation for how this happened and a promise that such preaching will be shut down as the new school year begins.
source​
What the Hell is wrong with southern Christians?---this is far from the first time they purposely flaunted the law to promote their religion. Are they truly as brain dead as they appear?

Let me ask all the good Christians here on RF. Are these imbecilic Christians at all an embarrassment to you or your religion?

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Seems like the group is targeting a loophole in what is consider during "school" hours. Think of after school clubs.
 
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