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On death.

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Oliver Twist

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What is death? The end? A third of a Day sleep?

For twenty years I've been experiment with arsenik, cyanid and diffrent harmful substances. I have done research in litterature on The concept of death. While The old testament adress death as punishment for mans sins - the new testament adress death as a person. The past seven years I been document dark cloudy winternights searching for the answer of what man call death. King David speaks of such experiment as 'The valley of shadow of death'. New testament mention gallilean territory as a place where death and darkness reigns.

I have dokuments of dark cloudy winternights -both audiorecording on microSD and also in my där. I recall the neon lights on the dark skies. I recall the curses and experiences of a haunted block where the shadows fell towards the light sure - contrary to it's natural position. Math and engineering could possible explain this event. - I speak with experiences in media, theater and musical technologies. I recall holograms on stage. I recall siberian winterstorms. There are alot of paperdokuments i need to go through and henne i post this to start.
 
George-ananda

George-ananda

Advaita Vedanta, Theosophy, Spiritualism
Premium Member
Oliver Twist said:
What is death?
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In my view we are interpenetrating physical, astral and mental bodies. Death is the final slipping off the thickest outercoat allowing the astral and mental bodies to experience without the drag of physical movement. At first we may not know we died but just a feeling of 'lighter'.
 
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susanblange

Active Member
Oliver Twist said:
What is death? The end? A third of a Day sleep?

For twenty years I've been experiment with arsenik, cyanid and diffrent harmful substances. I have done research in litterature on The concept of death. While The old testament adress death as punishment for mans sins - the new testament adress death as a person. The past seven years I been document dark cloudy winternights searching for the answer of what man call death. King David speaks of such experiment as 'The valley of shadow of death'. New testament mention gallilean territory as a place where death and darkness reigns.

I have dokuments of dark cloudy winternights -both audiorecording on microSD and also in my där. I recall the neon lights on the dark skies. I recall the curses and experiences of a haunted block where the shadows fell towards the light sure - contrary to it's natural position. Math and engineering could possible explain this event. - I speak with experiences in media, theater and musical technologies. I recall holograms on stage. I recall siberian winterstorms. There are alot of paperdokuments i need to go through and henne i post this to start.
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Everybody's soul (body) will die and it is permanent. The spirit lives on after the death of the soul. It can go to Heaven, Hell, or it can be extinguished immediately. If it goes to Hell there is no escape. The death of the spirit is also permanent and it's just a matter of time.
 
Darkforbid

Darkforbid

Well-Known Member
Oliver Twist said:
What is death? The end? A third of a Day sleep?

For twenty years I've been experiment with arsenik, cyanid and diffrent harmful substances. I have done research in litterature on The concept of death. While The old testament adress death as punishment for mans sins - the new testament adress death as a person. The past seven years I been document dark cloudy winternights searching for the answer of what man call death. King David speaks of such experiment as 'The valley of shadow of death'. New testament mention gallilean territory as a place where death and darkness reigns.

I have dokuments of dark cloudy winternights -both audiorecording on microSD and also in my där. I recall the neon lights on the dark skies. I recall the curses and experiences of a haunted block where the shadows fell towards the light sure - contrary to it's natural position. Math and engineering could possible explain this event. - I speak with experiences in media, theater and musical technologies. I recall holograms on stage. I recall siberian winterstorms. There are alot of paperdokuments i need to go through and henne i post this to start.
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Admitting you experiment with poisons will get you sectioned in the UK
 
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Oliver Twist

Member
The creed goes???

Lazarus rose on Jesus prayer. God is not a sinner because he show mercy. Initially God don't fail because he do, do he?
 
Darkforbid

Darkforbid

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cyanide is not illegal but very strongly controlled, it's also used as a precursor in manufacturing explosives

From 3 March 2016, members of the public who want to possess or use these chemicals must hold a licence issued by the Home Office and an associated photographic identity document.

See also:

Arsenic Act 1851 - Wikipedia
 
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Oliver Twist

Member
To continue..

The greatest herecy many bliver has is that we have to die to go to heaven! First, Jesus speaks, "heaven is within you". Second you need to "...obey [God]" to go to heaven. Third... Eh... Why... Eternal life is promised for the beliver

In revelation death is one of the four horsemen. Many books tries and attend the idé that hades is The place death rikes.
 
Road Less Traveled

Road Less Traveled

Active Member
Oliver Twist said:
What is death? The end? A third of a Day sleep?

For twenty years I've been experiment with arsenik, cyanid and diffrent harmful substances. I have done research in litterature on The concept of death. While The old testament adress death as punishment for mans sins - the new testament adress death as a person. The past seven years I been document dark cloudy winternights searching for the answer of what man call death. King David speaks of such experiment as 'The valley of shadow of death'. New testament mention gallilean territory as a place where death and darkness reigns.

I have dokuments of dark cloudy winternights -both audiorecording on microSD and also in my där. I recall the neon lights on the dark skies. I recall the curses and experiences of a haunted block where the shadows fell towards the light sure - contrary to it's natural position. Math and engineering could possible explain this event. - I speak with experiences in media, theater and musical technologies. I recall holograms on stage. I recall siberian winterstorms. There are alot of paperdokuments i need to go through and henne i post this to start.
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I have no clue what happens upon physical literal death, but best for me to think of and prepare for all possible scenarios just in case. One thing that’s guaranteed is a rotting/deteriorating, or cremated meat suit.

The only death I can speak of are the deaths/destructions/passing away of/ certain old characteristics and natures inside. Death to bad self that was never myself to begin with. And also being a dead marionette/ignorant zombie of a life that was never ‘mine’ for 30 years.
 
Twilight Hue

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Oliver Twist said:
What is death? The end? A third of a Day sleep?

For twenty years I've been experiment with arsenik, cyanid and diffrent harmful substances. I have done research in litterature on The concept of death. While The old testament adress death as punishment for mans sins - the new testament adress death as a person. The past seven years I been document dark cloudy winternights searching for the answer of what man call death. King David speaks of such experiment as 'The valley of shadow of death'. New testament mention gallilean territory as a place where death and darkness reigns.

I have dokuments of dark cloudy winternights -both audiorecording on microSD and also in my där. I recall the neon lights on the dark skies. I recall the curses and experiences of a haunted block where the shadows fell towards the light sure - contrary to it's natural position. Math and engineering could possible explain this event. - I speak with experiences in media, theater and musical technologies. I recall holograms on stage. I recall siberian winterstorms. There are alot of paperdokuments i need to go through and henne i post this to start.
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Death is before you were born. You already know.
 
Deeje

Deeje

Avid Bible Student
Premium Member
Oliver Twist said:
What is death? The end? A third of a Day sleep?

For twenty years I've been experiment with arsenik, cyanid and diffrent harmful substances.
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Why? :shrug:

I have done research in litterature on The concept of death. While The old testament adress death as punishment for mans sins - the new testament adress death as a person.
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The OT mentions death as a punishment for sins, but so does the NT. They were written by secretaries of the same author. (God)

Death is the opposite of life. There is no mysterious shadowy “thing” that continues to live on in some invisible shadowy place after physical death. The Bible never says anything like that.....Christendom and every other religion does, because they have the same author.....and it isn’t God.

The past seven years I been document dark cloudy winternights searching for the answer of what man call death. King David speaks of such experiment as 'The valley of shadow of death'. New testament mention gallilean territory as a place where death and darkness reigns.
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King David knew that in the grave, there is no consciousness. It is a “sleep” from which only God can awaken a person. (Ecclesiastes 9:5;10; Psalm 115:17; Psalm 146:4; John 11:11-14)

I have dokuments of dark cloudy winternights -both audiorecording on microSD and also in my där. I recall the neon lights on the dark skies. I recall the curses and experiences of a haunted block where the shadows fell towards the light sure - contrary to it's natural position. Math and engineering could possible explain this event. - I speak with experiences in media, theater and musical technologies. I recall holograms on stage. I recall siberian winterstorms. There are alot of paperdokuments i need to go through and henne i post this to start.
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Not a lot of that makes sense to me, but I have a feeling that English is not your first language.

The Bible speaks of death as an impermanent state. The grave (Sheol, hades) is a place where all humans go to “sleep” until God has finished testing mankind in this world. Then it speaks of Jesus, as King of God’s kingdom, cleansing the earth of all wickedness and those who practice it, and thereafter resurrecting all the dead, both “righteous and unrighteousness” by calling them out of their graves. (John 5:28-29) Some of these have already proven their love of God and been loyal to him in their lives, others have lived unrighteousness lives and will enter a period of judgment, given every opportunity to alter their life course. The incorrigibly wicked will not awaken at all. Eternal death is the opposite of eternal life.

This is what the Bible teaches and it makes perfect sense to me.
 
Deeje

Deeje

Avid Bible Student
Premium Member
Oliver Twist said:
To continue..

The greatest herecy many bliver has is that we have to die to go to heaven! First, Jesus speaks, "heaven is within you".
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He didn’t actually say that at all. He was addressing the wicked religious leaders of his day and telling them that the King of God’s Kingdom was “in their midst”, but they failed to recognise him. His statement had nothing to do with “heaven within you”.

Second you need to "...obey [God]" to go to heaven.
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You got that right. Only those who obey God and the teachings of his Christ will attain to life in heaven. But not all who obey God will go to heaven anyway. God created this earth to be man’s permanent home, so those called to a heavenly life will rule subjects on earth. (Revelation 21:2-4) That has a why they are also “priests”. (Revelation 20:6)

Third... Eh... Why... Eternal life is promised for the beliver
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Why is eternal life promised for the believer? Because this life is a test of who we really are. Those who remain loyal to God and obey him, despite living in a world going in the opposite direction, will get rewarded for their efforts. It’s a rough journey for many....”cramped and narrow”, not a lot of room for personal opinion, or doing your own thing. (Matthew 7:13-14)

In revelation death is one of the four horsemen. Many books tries and attend the idé that hades is The place death rikes.
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The four symbolic horsemen of Revelation are riding in these last days and we can see the results of their ride with our own eyes.

The first rider is a conquering King....the Lord Jesus Christ, overseeing the events that he foretold for these last days. (Matthew 24:3-14)

The second ‘fiery coloured horse’ represents unprecedented warfare...the likes of which have never been seen in the history of man. Heinous weapons and much bloodshed are the result of this rider. He takes peace away from the world.....just in the two World War alone, millions were sacrificed on the alter of war. Millions more since....and for what?

The third horse is black and he has scales in his hand, depicting food shortages and extreme famine. In a world where enough food can be produced to feed the entire population, yet greed and politics create extreme want in many parts of the earth and wanton waste in other parts. If we die as the result of starvation or obesity....what does it matter? We are still dead.

The last rider of the pale horse represents disease and is followed by hades (the grave) which has swallowed all those who have succumbed to death in this manner. Cancer, heart disease, neurological disorders and communicable diseases that can wipe out whole villages, continue to take an enormous toll on humanity with suffering and grief for many left behind.

Their ride is almost over according to my beliefs, and we can look forward to a wonderful calm after the storm of this world’s end is completed. The rule of God’s kingdom will finally return this earth back to God’s original purpose for it, as was foretold all along. (Isaiah 55:11)
 
leov

leov

Well-Known Member
Oliver Twist said:
What is death? The end? A third of a Day sleep?

For twenty years I've been experiment with arsenik, cyanid and diffrent harmful substances. I have done research in litterature on The concept of death. While The old testament adress death as punishment for mans sins - the new testament adress death as a person. The past seven years I been document dark cloudy winternights searching for the answer of what man call death. King David speaks of such experiment as 'The valley of shadow of death'. New testament mention gallilean territory as a place where death and darkness reigns.

I have dokuments of dark cloudy winternights -both audiorecording on microSD and also in my där. I recall the neon lights on the dark skies. I recall the curses and experiences of a haunted block where the shadows fell towards the light sure - contrary to it's natural position. Math and engineering could possible explain this event. - I speak with experiences in media, theater and musical technologies. I recall holograms on stage. I recall siberian winterstorms. There are alot of paperdokuments i need to go through and henne i post this to start.
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Oliver Twist

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In my experience I would adress death as learnt behavior. We only die because we been taught that certain actions or events will lead to death. I would also adress death as a cognition. The dead body knows he is dead. Its an a-ha experience.

We got diffrent notions on the grave. Samuel was dead and buried past tense, while Saul consulted a medium to bring up his soul. David passed away to the fathers. Lazarus was risen past tense by the prayer of Jesus. Death is a gain according to NT's Paul. Moreover Paul make a distinktion of 'being dead' and 'hades'.
Jesus said 'let the dead bury their own dead'.
 
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Spirit of Light

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
Oliver Twist said:
In my experience I would adress death as learnt behavior. We only die because we been taught that certain actions or events will lead to death. I would also adress death as a cognition. The dead body knows he is dead. Its an a-ha experience.

We got diffrent notions on the grave. Samuel was dead and buried past tense, while Saul consulted a medium to bring up his soul. David passed away to the fathers. Lazarus was risen past tense by the prayer of Jesus. Death is a gain according to NT's Paul. Moreover Paul make a distinktion of 'being dead' and 'hades'.
Jesus said 'let the dead bury their own dead'.
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What happens when a persons body stop workig? we die
 
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