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California Gov Signs Bill To Exclude Trump From 2020 Election Ballot (SP 27)
- Thread starter SugarOcean
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Kangaroo Feathers
Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
Imagine if Trump just kept his promise and released his tax return.
A minor thing for most politicians yes. But after a 3 year $20+ million investigation, countless false accusations, and a ton of BS. Yes it's a ridiculous and unreasonable request.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
They already do.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
That's all he has to do to be on California's primary ballot. He does that, he's there.
Shad
Veteran Member
Wrong. Freedom of association and freedom of political expression as per 1a. This has been upheld repeatedly by SCOTUS. The Constitution has 2 requires to be POTUS. Fed trumps State.
Kangaroo Feathers
Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
It's ridiculous and unreasonable to expect him to keep his promises?
Shad
Veteran Member
Read what you link.
Article 2, Section 1, of the United States Constitution sets the following qualifications for the presidency:[2]
“ No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.[3]
Now read the cases linked near the end of ballot requirements being throw out by SCOTUS.
Shad
Veteran Member
This actually happened. Slave states didn't put Lincoln on the ballot for obvious reasons. Lincoln was going to get rid of the meal ticket ie slavery. This move was part of the background of the Civil War. All for the slavers self-interest. Ruled unconstitutional after the war.
Yeah after the whole Russian conspiracy thing. I'd tell ya to stick those tax returns where the sun don't shine as well.
Shad
Veteran Member
Yeah after the whole Russian conspiracy thing. I'd tell ya to stick those tax returns where the sun don't shine as well.
Cali is doing this as Trump will not release his returns. Cleary political partisanship because Trump didn't follow a tradition, not law, others did. He pissed in their cereal so this is the backlash.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
Those aren't being violated. And this does not apply to the general election. Also, the Constitution clearly says there are three requirements to be president, not two.
Shad
Veteran Member
Look up the ballots cases in your own link. Yawn.
So what it is 3 instead of 2? It says nothing about ballots. Those 3 are the only requirement by the Constitution which is the law of land.
For those who think this is an attack on Trump, consider this. At this point Joe Biden is ineligible to be on the Primary ballot in California. He has only released three years of his tax returns, this law requires 5.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
I posted that to show there are far more burdensome requirements to get on a ballot, for a presidential election, than submitting your tax forms, and to show each state sets it's own criteria. And this bill doesn't even apply to the general election. Primary elections, on the other hand, have some very loose laws, tend to be messy, and even the party can make up stuff as they go along.
Imagine if his critics didn’t (deliberately?) misquote him when he said he would release them but only after he was not being audited.
Pointless comment.
Ok, you described a process. How then did the process conclude the validity of the bill in question, especially when this same process was used in the passing of the bill? Seems conflicting with your position on the bill.
Why don't you clearly tell me your point and then the arguments to prove it. So far, you have not. I'm just hearing frivolous details that masquerade as arguments.
Yet another deplorable lie.
First he said he would release his returns.
Then he said he couldn't, because he was being audited. When that was shown to be a lie, he came up with a different one. "When Obama is proven to be a citizen", if I recall correctly.
I could be wrong about that. I gave up keeping track of Trump's lies before he got appointed to office.
Tom
SugarOcean
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Clearly not.