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I find in Scripture it is both 'inappropriate and negative' to have sex outside of marriage.
I didn't even notice before, but this is funny! Two very different statements: the first denying what an immense amount of evidence shows, and calling it "speculation," the second asserting what no evidence of any sort whatever, anywhere, shows, and stated as undeniable fact.
Thanks for completely missing my point, but you do you.
Got a citation for that claim?
You're full of nonsense too.
I'm sure you'd say that to Jesus, too.
I've lived my entire life believing it is, but I've also heard stories of my mother telling me what my father would do to her. This taught me that consent is more important than marriage certificates.
Jesus wouldn't exist without one hooker and one widow who dressed as one. FYI.
It's a lie that marriage makes things better.
It's scientific? Like, STD's see that marriage certificate and go "OH NO, BETTER RUN, GUYS ... THESE FOLKS ARE MARRIED!"
Yeah, even Jesus says you can get divorced.
This is the 21st century. With modern medicine, virgins can have kids all the time.
Like the ones without brains? Were the stillborn babies healthy?
I mean, technically, I have fetal-position-inducing cramps. That's why I'm on it. That's the problem I have for bans of birth control or abortion: it ignores the fact they can be done for various reasons.
And it's HIGHLY hypocritical to then go to Sunday School and learn about some little quasi-married girl getting knocked up without sex. Christianity DEPENDS on abstinence-only being wrong.
Would mating rituals other than the sex act not count as "marriage", though? Like those birds who decorate using cool things they found, and the female bird chooses his nest ... that's kinda the same thing, right? I mean, Christianity teaches about marriage but Adam and Eve never get married. He just says he's going to have sex with her. Foreplay is not his strong suit.
The story isn't about a Fall at all. It's more akin to a story where the teacher teaches sex ed when the parent didn't want to because ignoring the problem means they'll never do it and God WROTE human psychology into existence and should know better. But this was a God who didn't figure out Adam needed another human to mate with until later.
Satan has no power over me. Why fear being in some loser's home, a home, might I add, God specifically created so he can rule over the people God doesn't like.
I mean, if God bans me and Satan says he has a few spots open, why mourn the One who didn't want you? It's taken me decades to come to grips that my parents are narcissistic and incapable of love outside of shallow meaningless statements of it. If God is going to act like them, I'd rather be in hell. The fun people are probably there anyway. The gate is narrow to heaven. The gate to hell is wide. Doesn't take too much effort to see who is really interested in company, does it?
Both parents are unnecessary, only multiple people. The mother has to sleep sometimes and someone else has to pick up the slack. Sometimes what is best for the child is to not be born at all or to have other people besides the parents involved in their care.
Is Paul God?
Yeah, there are many things I consider should be legal but they're just not my thing.
And yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I SHALL FEAR NO EVIL. Send me to hell! I don't care! What's Satan actually going to do to me, kill me? If he can't kill my soul, then I win. If he can, I won't suffer anymore, so I still win.
That's a very good point I've never considered before. If God loves us and wants us to be with him so much, he sure did make it hard for us to get to be with him, especially since he designed us and knew it would be so hard.
So, all they have is correlation. Maybe jerks just like playing violent video games. Would you rather they kill real people? I play them and I don't have these problems. I understand what "game" means. Then again, Christians, especially white ones, in the US are responsible for most of our terrorism. The bible makes Metal Gear Solid or Mortal Kombat look silly and childish in comparison. There is a guy chopping up his hooker or whatever and mailing her chunks of meat to his neighbors. Maybe we should ban what is REALLY associated with violence in the US.
No. That's not how viruses work. They evolve.
They are associated with sex. Bodily fluids is what is really the problem.
Or maybe the risks you think are so pervasive aren't as much.
1:1 And the crowd asked, "Who is this illegal immigrant and his family? Why should we let them in?"
We should believe Paul because ...?
God apparently doesn't care about marriage anyway. The whole point is moot. He neither told Adam and Eve to get married nor can I think of any verse where God commands marriage as a thing. He just supposedly makes rules that never really affect him and only seem to be made up by government figures. Jesus is anti-family. He says you can't love anyone in your family and still love him (someone has some Freudian issues, doesn't he?). He constantly dismisses familial responsibilities, his own or others'. And given Paul sounds like an incel, he can't really be trusted to be unbiased about how relationships with women should work.
Marriage is so sacred for Catholicism that its clergy can't do it and have to turn to kids instead.
So, how men act in the bible, then.
Pedos should have sex dolls and virtual porn. No actual children are harmed. They still get their rocks off. That's me being at my most generous, as I think pedos should be burned at the stake.
You don't think that's not happening in the bible? The men writing it just say God approves of their self-love. Most of the bible is curiously self-serving to the authors specifically or various types of religious or secular ruling classes.
As long as there is no harm and all parties are consenting, what is actually the problem? I am not into a lot of stuff either. Hell, I'm even a 41 year old virgin. However, things I think are icky can still be legal because we should base laws on what is actually happening, not what I feel about it.
It lowers your serum sodium (for one thing) and will ensure death if not fixed. I've had patients who scammed people out of glasses of water all day long and they almost always get into medical trouble. There is a patient I have now who has in her medical record how much water to give based on what her sodium level is. She has been in the ICU before because she's noncompliant as hell.
Your kidneys can be overstressed leading to the need for dialysis. You guys understand there are members here who are in the healthcare field, right?
Yeah, I mean, I'm not into it, but it seems the most sensible option if there are certain consequences you'd like to avoid.
Maybe they're doing it wrong.
Yeah, like my father acted, the women have to be monogamous. The men get to do whatever they want.
There's a reason the age of consent is stupidly low for some states.
No known witnesses. Medically questionable. No confirmed death in the first place. Conveniently entombed instead of under a lot of dirt.
Agreed. While I'm pro-choice, I feel both sides can get what they want more or less by birth prevention.
No. Read through his geneaology. Tamar dressed up like a hooker to trick her father-in-law to have sex with her. They weren't married. He was getting a fling. Pretty sure his wife couldn't get one. He is also related to Rahab, a hooker who betrayed her own people when Hebrews came to slaughter everyone.
... if it was the only factor affecting divorce rates. It's not.
Well, she's obviously already had premarital sex...
