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The god of the Bible should be seeking forgiveness

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JJ50

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If the god character in the Bible exists, and all the unpleasant things attributed to it have any credence, it should be on its knees begging the human race to forgive it.

It beggars belief that some look upon the god character as good and a god of love. If it was a human it would be vilified for its evil character, prosecuted and either spend the whole of its life incarcerated, or even executed.

Now I await the excuses some Christians will come up with, in order to exonerate it.
 
Darkforbid

Darkforbid

Well-Known Member
JJ50 said:
If the god character in the Bible exists, and all the unpleasant things attributed to it have any credence, it should be on its knees begging the human race to forgive it.

It beggars belief that some look upon the god character as good and a god of love. If it was a human it would be vilified for its evil character, prosecuted and either spend the whole of its life incarcerated, or even executed.

Now I await the excuses some Christians will come up with, in order to exonerate it.
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Like what exactly?
 
Spirit of Light

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
JJ50 said:
If the god character in the Bible exists, and all the unpleasant things attributed to it have any credence, it should be on its knees begging the human race to forgive it.

It beggars belief that some look upon the god character as good and a god of love. If it was a human it would be vilified for its evil character, prosecuted and either spend the whole of its life incarcerated, or even executed.

Now I await the excuses some Christians will come up with, in order to exonerate it.
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You do realize that it is the human beings that are sinners not the God? in the different religions a God or Buddha give us humans rules or guidelines we should follow, But we can't even do that without messing up. So no, the Christian god has nothing to say sorry for to humans, But humans should beg for forgiveness by the God
 
leov

leov

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JJ50 said:
If the god character in the Bible exists, and all the unpleasant things attributed to it have any credence, it should be on its knees begging the human race to forgive it.

It beggars belief that some look upon the god character as good and a god of love. If it was a human it would be vilified for its evil character, prosecuted and either spend the whole of its life incarcerated, or even executed.

Now I await the excuses some Christians will come up with, in order to exonerate it.
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8"Cain told Abel his brother. And it came about when they were in the field, that Cain rose up against Abel his brother and killed him.
9Then the LORD said to Cain, “Where is Abel your brother?” And he said, “I do not know. Am I my brother’s keeper?”
This is an archetypal event describing state of humanity that needs to be repaired.
 
InChrist

InChrist

Free4ever
JJ50 said:
If the god character in the Bible exists, and all the unpleasant things attributed to it have any credence, it should be on its knees begging the human race to forgive it.

It beggars belief that some look upon the god character as good and a god of love. If it was a human it would be vilified for its evil character, prosecuted and either spend the whole of its life incarcerated, or even executed.

Now I await the excuses some Christians will come up with, in order to exonerate it.
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God is not a human randomly acting out of impure, selfish motives. Everything the Creator God does is done in all-knowing wisdom and love for His creation., whether you or I comprehend it or not.
 
Twilight Hue

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
JJ50 said:
If the god character in the Bible exists, and all the unpleasant things attributed to it have any credence, it should be on its knees begging the human race to forgive it.

It beggars belief that some look upon the god character as good and a god of love. If it was a human it would be vilified for its evil character, prosecuted and either spend the whole of its life incarcerated, or even executed.

Now I await the excuses some Christians will come up with, in order to exonerate it.
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Good thing God is a puppet.
 
Kenny

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
JJ50 said:
If the god character in the Bible exists, and all the unpleasant things attributed to it have any credence, it should be on its knees begging the human race to forgive it.

It beggars belief that some look upon the god character as good and a god of love. If it was a human it would be vilified for its evil character, prosecuted and either spend the whole of its life incarcerated, or even executed.

Now I await the excuses some Christians will come up with, in order to exonerate it.
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I'm so glad that we have you to be the guiding light of what man should act like and the wisdom we should all have. :facepalm:
 
leov

leov

Well-Known Member
JJ50 said:
So it is ok for god to commit the crimes attributed to it, like the flood? It supposedly created human nature, so anything humans do wrong is its fault.
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Human nature is not the final 'product' yet, it is 'created' to be 'adjusted and cultivated' , so we are in a process of that...
 
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JJ50

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KenS said:
I'm so glad that we have you to be the guiding light of what man should act like and the wisdom we should all have. :facepalm:
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Humans should aim to be much better people than the god character in the Bible. It doesn't know the meaning of the word, 'goodness'.:mad:
 
Spirit of Light

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
JJ50 said:
Humans should aim to be much better people than the god character in the Bible. It doesn't know the meaning of the word, 'goodness'.:mad:
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You forgetting that God told humans that if they sin it will hurt them self. So no it is not God who punish humans, it is humans them self who do not follow the given guideline for how to live a morally good life
 
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Terry Sampson

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"The ancient man approached God (or even the gods) as the accused person approaches his judge. For the modern man, the roles are quite reversed. He is the judge: God is in the dock. He is quite a kindly judge; if God should have a reasonable defense for being the god who permits war, poverty, and disease, he is ready to listen to it. The trial may even end in God’s acquittal. But the important thing is that man is on the bench and God is in the dock.”
― C.S. Lewis, God in the Dock: Essays on Theology and Ethics
 
MonkeyFire

MonkeyFire

Well-Known Member
Omnipotence was betrayed by invincibility creating an unbreakable object and a unstoppable force. Wallah say good bye to the problem of evil.
 
InChrist

InChrist

Free4ever
JJ50 said:
So it is ok for god to commit the crimes attributed to it, like the flood? It supposedly created human nature, so anything humans do wrong is its fault.
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The flood was judgment of persistent evil. According to the scriptures God gave over 100 years of warning and opportunity for people to repent and turn from their wickedness. God created humans beings in His image, which means they had the ability to learn and follow His loving wisdom, developing qualities of love, peace, kindness, joy, etc. (But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control ...Gal. 5:22) Yet, humanity rejected God's wisdom leading to sin. marring the image of God, ruining their nature and behaving in self-centered, harmful ways. Anything humans do wrong is their own fault.
 
Quintessence

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
JJ50 said:
So it is ok for god to commit the crimes attributed to it, like the flood? It supposedly created human nature, so anything humans do wrong is its fault.
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If you are going to do something odd like apply human laws to a god-concept that is very much above and beyond such things, at least be consistent about it. If you are going to claim that human concepts of "crime" apply to this god, then you also need to apply human laws of fault and responsibility. I don't know where you are from, but in my country, parents are not held at fault for the behavior of their children. Nor are the inventors of firearms held responsible for all the murders committed with them.
 
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Jos

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Maybe it's best to just to move on and not argue about things like this with theists, everyone's mind is already made up and so it probably doesn't make sense trying to convince them to see your point of view. Neither side has any evidence in support of their position and they're all just talking past each other.
 
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susanblange

Active Member
JJ50 said:
If the god character in the Bible exists, and all the unpleasant things attributed to it have any credence, it should be on its knees begging the human race to forgive it.

It beggars belief that some look upon the god character as good and a god of love. If it was a human it would be vilified for its evil character, prosecuted and either spend the whole of its life incarcerated, or even executed.

Now I await the excuses some Christians will come up with, in order to exonerate it.
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When God comes, he will be executed by Christians. All of those who have fought against the Messiah and Jerusalem will be cut off in the third Judgment by fire. Zechariah 14:12. Isaiah 53:3 "He is despised and rejected of men…" Isaiah 53:6. "...and the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all". Isaiah 53:8. "He was taken from prison and from judgment..." Isaiah 53:9. "And he made his gave with the wicked..." God does need our forgiveness, not for any sin so much but for bad judgment and behavior. If we do not forgive God, then God cannot forgive us.
 
Kenny

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
JJ50 said:
Humans should aim to be much better people than the god character in the Bible. It doesn't know the meaning of the word, 'goodness'.:mad:
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Right... and we are doing so good at being "better people".

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Hey... but I'm not worried, we have you to show us the right way and your insight and wisdom, by the OP evidence, means there is hope for this world -- ALL HAIL @JJ50
 
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Terry Sampson

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@Jos
I speculate that JJ50 isn't interested in an "argument". She strikes me as being deeply aggrieved. And it's been my observation and experience that aggrieved folk aren't interested in debates. They want tangible justice on their terms. If that's what JJ50 wants in this thread, I suspect that your suggestion to her "to move on" will earn a thwack from her. Let's see if I'm right.
 
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